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babylonsister

(171,104 posts)
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:10 AM Mar 5

It's Nuts That Trump Will Soon Have Classified National Security Intelligence Briefings Again

https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-nuts-that-trump-will-have-classified-intelligence-briefings-again?ref=scroll

It’s Nuts That Trump Will Soon Have Classified National Security Intelligence Briefings Again
UPSIDE-DOWN WORLD
When he clinches the GOP nomination, the ex-president—currently under indictment for taking, hiding, and refusing to return classified docs—will have access to similar info again.
Mark Herrmann
Updated Mar. 03, 2024 2:53AM EST / Published Mar. 02, 2024 8:19PM EST

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Trump was irresponsible with government secrets while he was in office. He was irresponsible with government secrets after he left office. And Trump is now under immense financial pressure to sell information that he possesses in order to cover his debts.

When Trump becomes the Republican nominee for president, he’ll be entitled once again to receive national security briefings.

In a normal world, this wouldn’t happen. No responsible party would nominate for president a person who had disclosed classified information in the past, is under credible suspicion of having stolen and concealed classified information in the present, and who is under immense pressure to sell classified information in the future.

But here we are. Isn’t anyone else nervous about this?
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It's Nuts That Trump Will Soon Have Classified National Security Intelligence Briefings Again (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 5 OP
Off to Greatest with you! raccoon Mar 5 #1
Aaaa....yes! Hope22 Mar 5 #2
oh hell YES bdamomma Mar 5 #3
I'm sure he has Pootie on speed dial. SergeStorms Mar 5 #21
Also bdamomma Mar 5 #49
Screw the law WA-03 Democrat Mar 5 #4
No because I don't think he'll be the nominee. redqueen Mar 5 #5
tRump will be the nominee... FarPoint Mar 5 #12
I hope you're right. redqueen Mar 5 #25
What I have been thinking.... FarPoint Mar 5 #45
You can't be serious HareKrishna Mar 5 #54
Noooooo! Delphinus Mar 5 #6
The briefings would begin after the convention, not now. niyad Mar 5 #28
oh yes bdamomma Mar 5 #50
oh yes bdamomma Mar 5 #51
Trump will not be entitled to anything. Phoenix61 Mar 5 #7
i agree. mopinko Mar 5 #9
Agreed. It isn't a law. His actions and handling of security issues in the past has shown that he ISN'T entitled. Liberal In Texas Mar 5 #13
Agree mountain grammy Mar 5 #34
Thank you!! You're right..no way is President Biden going to let him have Ntl security clearance PortTack Mar 5 #53
I'm not worried. They won't tell him anything significant, I'm pretty, damn sure that. ashredux Mar 5 #8
Even while in office the career pentahon officials were keeping lindysalsagal Mar 5 #56
In Joe I trust. This is a norm that won't be followed. Fingers crossed. NoMoreRepugs Mar 5 #10
That will NEVER happen maxrandb Mar 5 #11
I agree ☝️ VMA131Marine Mar 5 #58
Yes, unlike the media maxrandb Mar 5 #59
And with plenty of incentive to monetize that information. surfered Mar 5 #14
Trump will be in a bit of a quandry 3825-87867 Mar 5 #15
Laughable nonsense. HareKrishna Mar 5 #55
Another reason to be kept wide awake at night. Bluethroughu Mar 5 #16
Biden should say that he has to get a security clearance first William Seger Mar 5 #17
This whole thing is like giving an arsonist matches and gasoline... TSExile Mar 5 #18
Feed him some top secret fake info KS Toronado Mar 5 #19
Perhaps the briefings could be simplified Half-step Mar 5 #20
Yes OhioTim Mar 5 #41
Plant some false information and wait for Trump to disclose it. Freethinker65 Mar 5 #22
nope its not a law. Its a tradition and up to the current president drray23 Mar 5 #23
Thanks for that PatSeg Mar 5 #36
Time for the FBI to tap his phone. louis-t Mar 5 #24
It's frightening Emile Mar 5 #26
They should just feed him dog shit. He'd never know the difference. /nt bucolic_frolic Mar 5 #27
Just hand him a children's menu from a Big Boy... Hugin Mar 5 #29
Of course I'm nervous and angry. This traitor is in Putin's back pocket. Fla Dem Mar 5 #30
No worries. He won't attend the meetings mnmoderatedem Mar 5 #31
Didn't Biden stop it last MOMFUDSKI Mar 5 #32
Yes, in 2021, Biden refused to continue the tradition of briefing ex-presidents William Seger Mar 5 #38
I'm going to stroke out CanonRay Mar 5 #33
It seems to me that he's not ever been fully WITHOUT classified information to some degree. That's part of Texin Mar 5 #35
When handing out the brief material give him a comic book... usaf-vet Mar 5 #37
IC knows he works for Putin. Kid Berwyn Mar 5 #39
Would not qualify for Always Blue Mar 5 #40
My suggestion would be someone from the administration gives him his breifing in person where Trump brewens Mar 5 #42
It seems obvious the briefing information will be sent directly to Putin dlk Mar 5 #43
I believe he will use this Blue Idaho Mar 5 #44
Test him Always Blue Mar 5 #46
They should plant some false teasers, orthoclad Mar 5 #47
Do what Harry Reid said, feed him disinfo. Mc Mike Mar 5 #48
"AF" is short of fresh water Brother Buzz Mar 5 #52
The Russiapublican party seeks to destroy the U.S. for its master, Putin. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 5 #57
And likely so will his new $ man, Musk. Joinfortmill Mar 6 #60
Biden must not allow this returnee Mar 6 #61

Hope22

(1,898 posts)
2. Aaaa....yes!
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:17 AM
Mar 5

But to be honest what he has stolen and more than likely sold or traded off has pushed me past being on high alert stress day in and day out. At this point I don’t think my nervous system can take much more. At this point the solution to TSF is beyond me getting more upset. I thought the * years were hard to survive but this, these unanswered criminal indictments, well all I can do is prepare for the worst because it is coming.

bdamomma

(63,941 posts)
3. oh hell YES
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:21 AM
Mar 5

he stole documents period. And gave our secrets to our adversaries. He will put us in jeopardy. I'm sure Vlad is just over the moon about this.


We can't let this Russian asset from getting anywhere near the WH, the stakes are too high. Believe him when he says he is out for revenge and retribution. He is our biggest THREAT.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
21. I'm sure he has Pootie on speed dial.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:02 AM
Mar 5

Whatever secrets they give Trump they're also giving to Putin.

I hope our intelligence departments are monitoring everything Trump does. The demented fool wants democracy to fail everywhere, but none so much as in our very own country.

bdamomma

(63,941 posts)
49. Also
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 07:08 PM
Mar 5

his band of thugs, Magats, Bannon and Stephen Miller and those Pootie loyalists in the House and Senate???

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
5. No because I don't think he'll be the nominee.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:27 AM
Mar 5

I hope that people stop clicking on tsf content and start engaging with content critiquing republican policies

FarPoint

(12,471 posts)
12. tRump will be the nominee...
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:53 AM
Mar 5

tRump will loose the election....Biden will win in November...

Heck....someone may already be sharing briefings with tRump....

FarPoint

(12,471 posts)
45. What I have been thinking....
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 12:18 PM
Mar 5

We must beat tRump completely....thus the recent SCOTUS ruling is okay with me...no technical errors/oversights etc...vote with a knock out punch...I want to end this misery of chaos....

Delphinus

(11,845 posts)
6. Noooooo!
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:28 AM
Mar 5

I didn't remember this - and the 'effer is meeting with Victor Orban soon - please! Stop this mf criminal!

bdamomma

(63,941 posts)
50. oh yes
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 07:12 PM
Mar 5

he is meeting with Orban and trying to be in the Dic.....tators Club. I wonder if Carlson Tucker will be invited. All these bastards have to be stopped.

bdamomma

(63,941 posts)
51. oh yes
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 07:12 PM
Mar 5

he is meeting with Orban and trying to be in the Dic.....tators Club. I wonder if Carlson Tucker will be invited. All these bastards have to be stopped.

Phoenix61

(17,023 posts)
7. Trump will not be entitled to anything.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:30 AM
Mar 5

It’s tradition to give candidates national security briefings not law. Considering that Biden barred Trump from getting them when he oil office I don’t see him allowing them because Trump’s a candidate.

Liberal In Texas

(13,600 posts)
13. Agreed. It isn't a law. His actions and handling of security issues in the past has shown that he ISN'T entitled.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:54 AM
Mar 5

lindysalsagal

(20,770 posts)
56. Even while in office the career pentahon officials were keeping
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 07:30 PM
Mar 5

The sensitive info from him. He won't get anything that's not already public.

maxrandb

(15,368 posts)
11. That will NEVER happen
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:47 AM
Mar 5

It's not a law, it's a tradition started by Harry Truman.

There is no way the Biden administration would provide intel briefings to the sickfuck.

It's just not going to happen. In fact, if the unthinkable were to happen, the 14TH Amendment is probably going to be revisited during the transfer of power.

I have been extremely dismissive of the idea, but I don't see how we avoid a 2ND Civil War to put down these insurrectionist.

Hopefully, enough people will understand the actual impact of this election and vote like their very way of life is it stake.

We won't need to worry about the destruction of NATO if that fuckstick wins. We'll need to worry if NATO countries allie against a Russian/US alliance and go to war with us.

VMA131Marine

(4,158 posts)
58. I agree ☝️
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 09:04 PM
Mar 5

President Biden is not willingly going to give any classified information to anyone who is credibly accused of mishandling such classified information to the egregious extent that Trump has been.

If POTUS authorises Trump to have anything it will be declassified summaries.

3825-87867

(855 posts)
15. Trump will be in a bit of a quandry
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:55 AM
Mar 5

While it's not required, he could be the recipient of "not so real" info. Then when that info shows up elsewhere, there will be no question of guilt. Imagine the consternation he must go through. He gets briefings but if he let's "others" know what they are, he may be set up. Ketchup all over the walls.
It's happened before. Maybe not with presidential candidates but it happens in secure private work. Certain, ah, groups take a very dim view of that.
Make it so. Can't wait.

William Seger

(10,788 posts)
17. Biden should say that he has to get a security clearance first
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 09:23 AM
Mar 5

Biden should say that just to drive home the point that Trump couldn't possibly qualify. Of course the Rs would put up a fuss and insist on the briefings, but we need the media reporting why Biden is resisting, which would be because national security is his responsibility now, and TFG simply cannot be trusted.

If he does get them, I hope Biden's people are familiar with the kind of briefings Donny is said to have hated.

Or, how about this: Feed TFG false intel and see if it ends up in Russia.

TSExile

(2,504 posts)
18. This whole thing is like giving an arsonist matches and gasoline...
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 09:25 AM
Mar 5

...or a perpetual drunk the car keys. Infuriating.

KS Toronado

(17,392 posts)
19. Feed him some top secret fake info
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 09:27 AM
Mar 5

about Rudy, Roger Stone, anyone he loves and would run to with the fake information, people who before hand
would be set up to monitor all their communication devices.

Half-step

(79 posts)
20. Perhaps the briefings could be simplified
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 09:37 AM
Mar 5

Thanks for the reminder, and there is good reason to be alarmed.

(And this is the part where I shift from concern to sarcasm...):

If I recall correctly, TFG could not be bothered with briefings, and needed them delivered as single-pagers (which might look at after his Executive Time). So, why not super-simplify the content to something more redacted:
+ "Something happened."
+ "Credible intelligence was successfully collected with the help from someone."
+ Etc.



But yes, sarcasm aside... This is both crazy and alarming.

drray23

(7,638 posts)
23. nope its not a law. Its a tradition and up to the current president
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:04 AM
Mar 5

to do so. Not only nominees but often former presidents can get briefings at the discretion of the current president. This is so that they can be consulted on thorny issues that they may have gad to deal with in the past . For nominees the idea is to help facilitate transition should they win.

Given that President Biden had already cut access to these courtesy briefings for Trump, I doubt he will enable it again.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
29. Just hand him a children's menu from a Big Boy...
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:13 AM
Mar 5

And a Sharpie.

Let ‘em go at it.

While, saying, “Who’s a good boy? You’re a good boy. Yes, you are.”

Fla Dem

(23,812 posts)
30. Of course I'm nervous and angry. This traitor is in Putin's back pocket.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:19 AM
Mar 5

He is a danger to our country's democracy and security and the lives of all our service people. But he has used the legal system to slow walk any credible action against him. The six conservative Supreme Court Justices are compliant in any failure of the US Constitutional system.

That's why Joe Biden must win. The Democrats must keep control of the Senate and win the House of Representatives. Then enlarge the SC to 12 members and immediately appoint 3 new members.

I know this is a pipe dream to get all 3, but it's the only way I can see we can get our Nation back on the road to a strong Democracy.

mnmoderatedem

(3,733 posts)
31. No worries. He won't attend the meetings
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:20 AM
Mar 5

Remember, he said, as president, that he doesn't attend daily security briefings, because they tell him the same thing every time and he found them boring.

Now of course, if Obama or Biden had said the same thing, all hell breaks out among the cons. But it's trump, so, meh.

William Seger

(10,788 posts)
38. Yes, in 2021, Biden refused to continue the tradition of briefing ex-presidents
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:52 AM
Mar 5

... because this one clearly couldn't be trusted.

Texin

(2,600 posts)
35. It seems to me that he's not ever been fully WITHOUT classified information to some degree. That's part of
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:44 AM
Mar 5

what Jack Smith is prosecuting in Florida (or trying to anyway) if Cannon will the the hell out of his way.

Kid Berwyn

(15,015 posts)
39. IC knows he works for Putin.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 10:56 AM
Mar 5

IMO, the spooks aren’t going to give a security threat much more than pablum.

Generic connect the dots, find the hidden words, what’s different between the two pictures…???

Always Blue

(31 posts)
40. Would not qualify for
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:07 AM
Mar 5

The unpaid debts and bankruptcies would disqualify him for a security clearance. People have had their clearances pulled for less than he has done. That alone should disqualify him from being considered for presidency. Should have been yelled when he was running against Hillary. Needs to be plastered every where.

brewens

(13,634 posts)
42. My suggestion would be someone from the administration gives him his breifing in person where Trump
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:29 AM
Mar 5

is only allowed to view the information and read it himself. No one else is in the room and he is not allowed to keep any of it.

I his state he wouldn't be able to coherently pass any of that on.

dlk

(11,585 posts)
43. It seems obvious the briefing information will be sent directly to Putin
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:34 AM
Mar 5

Trump will probably try to find a way to make as much money as he can from his briefings. It’s too bad all of the nouns and verbs can’t be redacted.

Blue Idaho

(5,060 posts)
44. I believe he will use this
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:36 AM
Mar 5

As an argument to drop all criminal charges related to the theft and possession of secret documents at Mar-a-Lago.

Mc Mike

(9,115 posts)
48. Do what Harry Reid said, feed him disinfo.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 05:49 PM
Mar 5

He won't know the difference, and it might help the US disinform Putin and his gang.

returnee

(50 posts)
61. Biden must not allow this
Wed Mar 6, 2024, 08:06 AM
Mar 6

There are many reasons why TSF should not have access to such information. Primarily that he stands accused of mishandling such information. If anything, I would suggest giving him false info monitoring his communications. If he is found to be passing the information on, arrest him.

As Beau would say, it’s just a thought.

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