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TygrBright

(20,770 posts)
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 01:45 PM Feb 29

Why the Supremes Ruling on the Presidential Immunity Case is a WIN-WIN!

It's a short strategy tree!

Option One: Supremes rule Presidential Immunity doesn't apply. [Redacted] is screwn, the election interference case grinds on, a bunch of other cases become increasingly viable and ultimately that dumbshit gets buried six feet under and well tamped-down.

Option Two: Supremes rule Presidential Immunity DOES apply. Joe Biden orders three of them assassinated, postpones the election until a new Court with his own appointees replacing them is convened and proposes an amendment to the Constitution denying Presidential immunity forever.

See?

Win-win!

happily,
Bright

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Why the Supremes Ruling on the Presidential Immunity Case is a WIN-WIN! (Original Post) TygrBright Feb 29 OP
And all the criming Traildogbob Feb 29 #1
Exactly! "Ask not for what you want... you might get it." n/t TygrBright Feb 29 #2
I think they'll give Trump a narrow immunity somehow. They won't give blanket 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 29 #3
No no, this is a terrible idea EarlG Feb 29 #4
oooo, even BETTER! A demonstration of "How unintended consequences happen!" n/t TygrBright Feb 29 #10
You are way too nice. LiberalFighter Feb 29 #5
Option 3: They declare a "narrow ruling" Bettie Feb 29 #6
They did in 2000. PCIntern Feb 29 #7
Exactly Bettie Feb 29 #9
Okay, in all seriousness - possible, maybe probable. BUT, think about this: TygrBright Feb 29 #11
Not really... getagrip_already Feb 29 #12
Why wait...he can appoint whoever he wants immediately... MiHale Feb 29 #8

Traildogbob

(8,821 posts)
1. And all the criming
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 01:50 PM
Feb 29

Biden did as VP is totally protected, (same immunity as Pres) so Comer and Gym can just go fuck themselves. And be forced to carry the babies to birth.

50 Shades Of Blue

(10,049 posts)
3. I think they'll give Trump a narrow immunity somehow. They won't give blanket
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 01:52 PM
Feb 29

immunity, so Joe Biden need not ever reply! And they won't jeopardize their own power, either. But they will find a way to get Trump off the hook this time.

EarlG

(21,968 posts)
4. No no, this is a terrible idea
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 01:56 PM
Feb 29

He shouldn't propose an amendment to the Constitution denying Presidential immunity forever -- he should start a new monarchy.

Hunter Biden would be next in line to the throne, of course.

LiberalFighter

(51,096 posts)
5. You are way too nice.
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 01:58 PM
Feb 29

I wouldn't limit it to just three.
I'm debating whether Trump should be included too. Or maybe build a tower consisting of wall made of windows to hold Trump. Windows would be bullet proof.
I would include the fake attorneys that represented Trump.
I would include the members of Congress that supported the insurrection.
I would change the Electoral College.
I would

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
6. Option 3: They declare a "narrow ruling"
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 01:59 PM
Feb 29

that only applies to one person....TFG.

I know, you're thinking, they can't make a ruling that only applies to one person!

And yet, if they do....where does one appeal that to? There is no recourse, no consequences for any of them. No matter what they do.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
9. Exactly
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:08 PM
Feb 29

and they are likely to do so again.

People keep saying "the judiciary will hold"....but the top level of it is owned by a few billionaires, so it will only hold if those billionaires allow it to.

TygrBright

(20,770 posts)
11. Okay, in all seriousness - possible, maybe probable. BUT, think about this:
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:45 PM
Feb 29

As far as I can tell (and legal experts conversant with the complex ramifications of this particular case, please chime in if you can) to formulate a ruling that would accomplish the goal of ONLY letting [Redacted] off the hook for this particular Adventure in Criming, the Court would have to produce a result egregiously narrow, contorted, biased and basically indefensible. In other words, blatantly partisan and un-judicial.

So much so, in fact, that it might FINALLY provide the political cover needed to enact meaningful reforms on the court, including expansion to include one Justice for each Judicial District, standards to apply for stare decisis, a procedure for applying standards to selecting petitions for certiorari to submit for a vote, some kind of term limitation, and a set of ethics protocols with actual teeth and some accountability.

The kind of change needed, in a system as complex and entrenched as this, is often possible only after those in power go too far in applying it. A ruling blatantly targeted to provide a result to a single individual's benefit might be just such an episode.

speculatively,
Bright

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)
12. Not really...
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 03:14 PM
Feb 29

All they need to do is rule the specific acts of and leading up to j6 were inside the outer boundaries of official acts and therefore covered by immunity.

It wouldn't apply to any other potus because the events are unique.

Hands washed.

MiHale

(9,782 posts)
8. Why wait...he can appoint whoever he wants immediately...
Thu Feb 29, 2024, 02:04 PM
Feb 29

Well maybe he should wait till after the funerals. But that may give the MAGA’ts time to run…
I say as long as the assassination squad is geared up go after all the traitors in Congress.
Operation Clean Sweep*



* This is a fantasy post, not to be taken literally.**
**Disclaimers really are good, aren’t they?


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