Not voting for the President

[angrychair]

Is a vote for Trump. There is no other way to look at it.
As far as I'm concerned Biden should not give a single inch. If that is their position then good luck with Trump. Hope you feel morally validated from one of Trump's concentration camps.

Edit:
I honestly want the attacks on Gaza and innocent Palestinians to stop but I am completely against this tactic. I think it is counterproductive and actually hurts the cause.

[DC77]

1. Agree 100% I also think people who say things like . . .

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“both parties are bad,” or “all I know is that they’re not doing anything for us” are reading/watching/listening to the wrong sources, lack critical thinking skills, need to grow up, or any combination of these. You need to vote and need to be an adult and make a choice. Not voting makes you dumb, lazy, or both.

Many oligarchs/people in power want you to not vote, to not care, to keep infighting.

We cannot take our eyes off the prize.

[TomSlick]

2. AGREED!

[qwlauren35]

3. Not sure I agree

We're in the primaries and if people want to send a message I think now is the time.

I really don't see how a vote for "uncommitted" in the primaries is a vote for Trump. It also does not advance any of the other candidates.

If anything, the citizens of Michigan are saying "win us over". And I think they have a right to do that.

In fact, I think any constituency that feels unheard should use the primaries to flex some muscle,

[Happy Hoosier]

6. Because this movement won't end here

Some of the leaders of this movement will advocate voting third party… or not voting at all.

We’ve seen this before. How many times do we have to piss in the wind to learn our lesson?

[angrychair]

7. Because this isn't a normal election

Or a normal Republican candidate or a normal news media.

This will be like gasoline on the fire for the media. They will use it beat Biden up for weeks.
I mean trump could get convicted and sent to jail next week and this would still be the only thing the press will talk about.

[qwlauren35]

14. It's not even March

Nothing the media does for the next six weeks will affect what happens in November.

If it's not Michigan, it will be something else.

People want to be heard, and going "shut up and vote for Biden" is very undemocratic.

You have reduced human beings with voices and concerns to numbers on a graph.


I find that unacceptable.

[angrychair]

17. Voting for Biden

Is how we save democracy. I don't care about anyone's feelings, I only care about defeating Trump. That is the only thing that matters.

[qwlauren35]

21. But it's the primaries!!!!!

No one has switched parties, no one wants Trump.

Everyone understands that we need Biden to win in November.

I really want to know what other way do you propose that the Arab-American community get the president's attention? I always thought that voting was a good way to do it.

Although protests can work if the media covers what the people want. Protests without media coverage are meaningless.

You say the media will jump all over this. That's what is supposed to happen. More coverage for the Arab-American voters. Make their concerns front and center. In March.

I really hate the idea of telling people how to vote in the primaries.

[angrychair]

24. When I say media

I mean these people look for anything to attack him on and Democratic Party in-fighting is made to order. Trump could get convicted and sentenced to 100 years in prison next week and this will still be the only thing they talk about 24/7.

While we are at it, you can fully expect trump to crow how arab-americans support him now and then the media to pick that up and beat Biden up. This will erode significant support for Biden.

[GuppyGal]

19. No they've been heard.....their DEMANDS aren't being met fast enough for them. So therefore THEY will hold the Dem

Party hostage? The lack of LOYALTY is revolting nt

[NoRethugFriends]

27. extreme naivete

[MiniMe]

4. I also say WTF ius Joe supposed to do about it?

The US has no soldiers in this fight now, Joe has minimal control over Isreal. We can express our opinion, which we have, but this is not our war.

[qwlauren35]

5. I disagree.

We can stop funding and supplying weapons. And we can use both to push Israel.

There's a lot more to war than boots on the ground.

[Patton French]

9. You disagree that not voting for President Biden is a vote for Trump?

Really?

[Autumn]

11. It's a primary FFS. Not the GE.

[Patton French]

13. Roll your eyes all you want.

We don’t need our own party for goodness sake undermining President Biden, especially at this pivotal moment in history.

[Autumn]

18. On the Republican ballot 7 Pukes, I uncommitted. On the Dem ballot, 3 Dems 1 uncommitted.

That's how primaries work. The winner is the winner and Uncommitted isn't going to win shit. I guarantee Uncommitted won't be winning on Democratic ticket in the GE.

[qwlauren35]

16. In the primaries, absolutely.

Voting uncommitted is sending a message. Every US citizen has a right to be heard.

In my opinion, Biden needs to win this constituency. They do not want to be taken for granted.

And I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

The Democratic party is made up of several constituencies, with different needs. It seems that people don't want to acknowledge this.

September, October November. Show unity. In the primaries, put your issues on the table.

[angrychair]

10. I am against their methods

This is incredibly destructive to the Dem Party as this will become the only thing the press will talk about for weeks and will use it to drag Biden and call him a "weak candidate" and that is why I hate this tactic so much.

[Cha]

25. I Disagree. What's Pres Biden Suppose to Do.. An Executive Order?

Fuckers calling him "genocide Joe" ae Full of Gaslit SHIT.

Link to tweet

[qwlauren35]

26. Please note.

Brianna is not Palestinian. She may not even be Arab American. She is probably young, knows nothing about theWar on Terror, or 9/11, or the hate crimes that occurred afterwards. She probably was not paying attention when Trump blocked Muslim immigrants from entering the country. Reaching the Brianna’s is going to be difficult if the war continues. But if it ends by July, it will be on to the next cause. And the Palestinians will be forgotten.

[Cha]

28. That isn't about BJG.. it's about the first Tweet

that's replying to her.

It's about Dino with the Palestinian flag..

Link to tweet

[betsuni]

30. She's a lawyer turned political consultant, Bernie Sanders National Press Secretary in 2020, 38 years old.

Hates Democrats.

[qwlauren35]

33. I stand corrected.

She sounded childish.

[betsuni]

34. She always sounds like an angry belligerent child so no surprise.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

8. That's not how a primary works, but okay.

[angrychair]

12. It's not just about the primary

This is what they plan to do in the GE as well.

Not to mention the press is going to use this as a way to attack Biden in the press for weeks.
Already heard on both CNN and MSNBC that this shows how "weak" Biden is appearing.

[DemocraticPatriot]

15. "I saw what you did there", with your OP subject line.... lol

I make endless posts supporting President Biden, which get little attention....

perhaps my subject lines were 'too honest'! LMAO of course



I came in here with the intention of flaming your ass,
but of course you fooled me

I think "some people" call that "CLICKBAIT"!!! lol


Of course, I agree with you, ANY VOTE
that is NOT a vote for President Joe Biden,
is a VOTE FOR HITLER REINCARNATED!!!

[Rebl2]

20. That was my

thought as well. He will round them up and put them in concentration camps, or throw them out of the country-or worse.

[FHRRK]

22. Overall get your point.

And am getting increasingly pissed off at some of the purity groups.

That being said, tonight's uncommitted vote is close to inconsequential. Other than a short term talking point by media, it did little other than to ruin Tlaib's career, not a significant event.

[Murphyb849]

23. Biden is the President of the United States

NOT the emperor of the Earth.
He cannot force the Middle East to do anything.

[betsuni]

32. Apparently all he has to do is pick up the phone and "demand."

I guess it makes some sort of nutty sense if one believes the U.S. is an evil Western imperialist oligarch billionaire corporate Illuminati empire and Biden is the mob boss of the world.

[Silent Type]

29. It's one thing in a Primary, but many will come around by November unless things

don’t get better.

[misanthrope]

31. Not in the primary it isn't

Barring some catastrophic health issue, Biden is locked into the Democratic nomination.

[Martin Eden]

35. Biden is too smart to be petulant towards such non-voters

The general election is a long way off, and things can change between now and then. Those voters might cross the bridge to Biden, but not if those bridges are burned now out of spite.

[Emile]

36. Trump moving the US embassy to Jerusalem

was fuel for the war and now they want to reward Trump? I don't get their thinking.

[Emile]

37. and do they think living under a christan nationalism

government to punish Joe Biden would be better?

They don't make any sense to me.