There's gonna be violence in the country on the first Wednesday in November.

[Bucky]

Trump probably has enough professional political managers around him that he'll need to be obscure about how he calls for it. But I feel more and more like this won't end on Election Day, even if we win clearly.

After 8 years of self indoctrination, members of Congress are likely to join in on his wink-nudge spurs toward a second insurrection. More and more will be too afraid of their own mob to call for peacefully accepting the vote.

I hope the police are prepared.

[elleng]

1. true

[Eliot Rosewater]

2. It is why I try to tell people the election outcome will NOT be the last word if the traitor loses.

By now I hope we have learned this, but the MSM hasn't so who knows.




MSM story 3 months after traitor takes power somehow: CBS reporter being handcuffed and arrested for reporting on the traitor saying "I am being arrested for reporting the truth, but maybe I deserve it because ...because..." sigh

[Hekate]

3. This time around, I hope the National Guard is empowered and the Capitol Police are out in force

Both November and January.

If someone were to ask President Biden about this, I would be interested in his answer. A simple “Yes” would suffice for me.

[2naSalit]

6. I would expect...

That there would not be a hold on assistance like last time.

I do expect the NG to be ready too.

[DENVERPOPS]

33. This time they will be prepared

And it will be across the nation, possibly at every State Capitol, especially Blue State Capitols, not just Wash D.C.

No matter if he wins or loses, it will be total chaos........

Trump has already stated he will use the "Insurrection Clause" to mobilize the U.S. Military, but, being "Commander In Chief" he will certainly use them as his own personal army and not to quell any violence........

This year, 2024 ,from now, all the way up to the election, and after.....I suspect will be like no other time in our entire country's history. It is only Feb and is already "amping" up on their part.......

We must do anything and everything we can to defeat Trump and more importantly, to control the aftermath.......Our Democracy and U.S. Constitution depend on it.........

Katie Bar The Door, folks............

[AllyCat]

42. You hit the nail on the head:

“ no matter if he wins or loses”.

[Bucky]

9. I keep thinking about how Hitler had to kill off the SA first...

... before he and his thugs could seize control of the country. It seems like, by driving out the Cheneys and Kinzingers, they've finished their "night of the long knives".

When Trump calls his defeat fraudulent (or I reckon he'll say rigged) and "asks" his drones to "patriotically protest" at the 50 electoral college meetings in December, do you really expect Lindsey Graham or Susan Collins to have the backbone to say "No, that's not the way we do things in America"?

They will line up in March along with the crowd, like Republicans always do. I give 50/50 odds that under those circumstances, there will be a assassination attempt on Mitt Romney.

[ShazzieB]

27. Fortunately...

Mitt can afford to hire plenty of security. If someone does make an attempt on him, I expect he'll be well-protected. At least I hope so!

[CTyankee]

46. I think Biden is prepared and has a FAFO warning for whoever wants to start some serious shit.

No question in my mind that Biden is prepared for this. Our democracy has never been tested in this way before. I think the forces for democracy will win but it is a very serious threat to governance in our country. I am NOT taking any of this lightly...

[Cha]

54. Pres Biden will be in Charge So

he'll do what's necessary.

Not like when TSF was hiding our in Our WH watching thr Domestic Terrorists on TV.

[Think. Again.]

4. I feel the same way...

...the rightwing has been agitating their minions for years now, no matter how the election goes, the aftermath will be violent.

[Scrivener7]

5. Yep.

[durablend]

7. Those thinking otherwise have their heads in the sand.

[CTyankee]

8. I'm getting nervous about election day. Trump's people are planning a takeover of voting in key states. I am certain

that this election day action is being planned in key states, not only in voter suppression leading up to Election Day, but the day itself.
But I am also certain that the Biden campaign is mostly aware of what is now being planned.

But I am still scared. I'm going to remain scared until the day is safely inaugurated for his second term of office.

[Blue Idaho]

10. I hope the various law enforcement agencies

Are given shoot to kill orders when the seditionists show up in DC.

[Bucky]

11. Yeah, that's a pretty bad idea

Overreacting and escalating are not our friends when we're fighting to preserve a civilization.

Like Putin and Netanyahu, we need to realize there's some problems you can't murder your way out of.

[Blue Idaho]

47. Disagree

What makes you think Trump’s army will arrive unarmed this time around?

[Turbineguy]

12. It's the hallmark of a shithole country

Do trump supporters understand what it is they want?

[Bucky]

19. Of course not.

You're talking about self-declared "Christians" who hate helping the poor, oppose rendering unto Caesar, delight at abusing a stranger in their land, and unquestioningly follow preachers who hoard gold and declare a filandering, raping, charity swindling con artist as God's chosen leader.

No, these people have no idea what they want. These are not rational people.

[Wounded Bear]

13. I fear you are right...nt

[orangecrush]

14. Just a suggestion

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[Bucky]

15. Um...

Yeah. But no.

[orangecrush]

17. ...

[edisdead]

16. This time shoot on site.

Everyone should know better. You attack the capitol again you get shot. End of story.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

41. Or watch them get slapped on the wrists again

[onetexan]

18. Big difference - Biden's in charge

[Bucky]

24. That's why I think the "showdown" won't be in DC

I think any swing states that Biden wins will see the state capitals besieged on December 15th by Maga mobs backing up new slates of fraudulent Electors spewing more fresh and original conspiracy theories about stolen election activities in each of those swing states.

It won't be one insurrection riot. There'll be half a dozen: Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, New Mexico, Maine (where Trump will definitely be on the ballot), Michigan, and maybe more.

[ancianita]

35. Maybe a couple of states, but not New Mexico; that blue island of the West doesn't put up with that shit.

NM got rid of Cuoy Griffin, head of Cowboys for Trump, under the 14th Amendment, Sec 3. He's the state's example for any riot leader.

I understand that they want to try violence, but I think you underestimate how well prepared this administration's feds will be to squash any such violence. They're leaving notification up to the states, but once notified, the feds can move in.

One example from 2022...
https://www.10news.com/news/local-news/san-diego-news/doj-san-diego-man-arrested-for-threatening-arizona-election-official

Past actions by the DOJ...
https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/1313366/dl?inline#:~:text=The%20task%20force%20engages%20with,Attorneys%27%20Offices%20throughout%20the%20country.

2024 plan CISA and the FBI...
https://www.eac.gov/sites/default/files/electionofficials/security/security_resources_election_subsector_508_CISA_FBI.pdf

[Bucky]

36. I'm glad to read New Mexico is ready

But the movement for fake collectors last time around was real. I have no doubts that they will try the same thing again, maybe with a few new wrinkles in the plot. So far, the 2020 fake electors have faced no consequences.

https://nmpoliticalreport.com/news/no-state-charges-for-nms-fake-electors/

[Think. Again.]

53. I agree...

...they won't just re-play the same attack as last time, they've got far more devious and wide-spread plans this time around.

And each attack will need to be shut down immediately.

[onetexan]

59. Those are Dems controlled states

The governors can call up the national guards.

[Mme. Defarge]

20. Do you mean like the massive

crowds at his rallies or when he arrived for his arraignment in New York City?

[Emile]

21. Garland won't let it get that far. He'll have Trump locked up

before the election.

[et tu]

22. i'm just the opposite

defendant 45 will be either in jail or to diminished
by election day, he is fastly deteriorating. gotv

[Bucky]

25. Wars are not won by generals counting on the enemy collapsing

If that's the case, I'll welcome it.

Only a fool would count on that. Getting out the vote won't be enough. We need poll workers and poll watchers and watchers of Republican poll watchers.

We need videographers exhaustively documenting every step along the paper trail for those ballots and lawyers to walk them and their evidence into every court where next year's Rudys and emerging kraakenheads bring their web of lies.

[et tu]

28. time will tell

and i agree that rw extremists will always be that way but i refuse
to dance to their war drum beat.

[Straw Man]

57. Me too.

He's not going to be able to mobilize the goons if his fat ass is in jail.

[et tu]

61. exactly,

and i don't want to be an extremist- biden and harris will win~

[RandomNumbers]

23. Maybe not Wednesday. Mail-in ballot processing.

MS Copilot reminds me that the projection of Biden as President-Elect did not occur until November 7, 2020. (Election day was Nov. 3).

Expect the weekend following the election to be ugly.

[Gaugamela]

26. If Trump gets back in office the worst violence will occur after January 20, 2025. And it won't

be confined to D.C.

[Mr. Ected]

29. Expect the media to exacerbate the issue when Biden wins and Trump and the GOP disputes

Though all of us know that it simply a dangerous game of cosplay, the media will present Trump's case as bona-fide and won't offer any rebuttal or fact-check. The ultimate "both sides" game that may end up costing us a democracy.

[Oopsie Daisy]

30. What they seem to forget is that Republicans are not the only ones who own firearms *

* a lot of responsible people just don't feel the need to boast about it, or make threats.

[Bucky]

32. A fair point, but I'm not talking about a civil war

I'm talking about an intermediate point where Republican mobs have concrete objections toward disrupting individual state Elector counts.

If it comes down to who's got more guns, Republican mobs versus Democratic mobs, the country is already screwed beyond recognition.

I don't think anyone's calling for it to go that far. I don't think they would challenge the elections in a dumb way, in the way that would involve fcing the US Army. These are punks and entitled sociopaths, not actual revolutionaries. Mob versus mob sounds too much like science fiction to me, or rather social science fiction.

They want the imprimatur of an electoral college win. They believe in the fiction of an actual majority win by Trump. I think the key will be having a documentation of ballots, not a backyard shed filled of bullets.

[Gimble]

56. This touches on the point I came here to make

Those folks who are saying they hope the police/national guard/military are prepared to quell the violence if all hell breaks loose might be disappointed. I can't prove it, but it sure seems to me that a substantial number of sheriffs, police, national guard and military are on Smelvis's side and many of them flat-out say they're itching to tear it all down. My point? You need to prepare to defend yourself. Don't count on anyone else to protect you. The good guys will be too busy fighting the bad guys in their own ranks. That doesn't mean you should go out looking for trouble. Just be prepared if trouble comes looking for you.

[Evolve Dammit]

31. yep indeed

[cab67]

34. I hope the Navy and Air Force at Joint Base Anacostia-Bolling are prepared.

[Bucky]

50. I can't see how they'd be involved

[canetoad]

37. I've thought that for quite a while

Trump and his magats, the ones not in prison, cannot let a nice election go by without some kind of malarkey. I wonder what they will try this time.

[BadGimp]

38. And then there's the GOP State Legislators who ready to overturn the results

I predict mayhem all over...

[Cosmocat]

43. Yep

Absolutely going to happen.

[panfluteman]

39. Yep - The Astrology Chart for the 2024 Election Shows Great Potential for Lying, Cheating and Mob Violence.

That was one of the first things I saw in the chart when I looked at it. Yep - looks like Trump's goon squad and all his flying monkeys will be out in force. They will all be doing their level best to make this the Second Civil War - that they have all been waiting for!

[Bucky]

49. Lol

Thanks, I needed that 😆

[PTL_Mancuso]

40. Letting150 Big Lie-ars remain in Congress practically guarantees some nasty bidniss for the foreseeable future!

I mean, how have we allowed all those Fed-Level Insurrectionists to retain their seats? They have NOT upheld their vows to the US Public. They have stymied every bit of national progress.

Isn't it unlawful to refuse to state that Biden is the elected President? The Big-Lie-ars have not offered any fricking evidence other than their Lies and provably false insinuations. How can a democracy go on when this bullcrap persists? Some might say it can't, and it hasn't, and we are in some intermediate state of governance, awaiting the other shoe to drop. Thanks Press, you F-ers! Thanks you stinking billionaires! Thanks zombie corporations that can kill people but can live forever!

Something much more than voting is needed when all the really big national decisions (like war and healthcare and eco-failure) are not made by us. We will never have 2/3 voters agree on anything even when they do agree on it (gunz, anyone? Big pharma?). THAT has been assured by the corporate infiltrators.

[BootinUp]

44. Have we ever had like a big violent event at voting places? If that is what you are thinking

I kind of doubt it. For the terrorists, that have to pick a place to terrorize it would be quite fruitless and costly. Voting places are many. Prison time would be assured due to all the witnesses.

[Bucky]

48. That was my original idea. On reflection I'm refining my take

I think there will inevitably be some incidents, but I wouldn't call it widespread.

I think the real problem will be in December when magamobs take their protests to state capitals to interfere with Electoral College tabulations. That date worries me more than November 6

[BootinUp]

51. There is no doubt that these things are possible, but I also believe

they are mostly preventable. In other words, there are people who are in law enforcement or are consultants to law enforcement that have the necessary experience to deal with these threats. Its part of the job. We are fortunate that Trump is not in office to defeat those kinds of measures as he would surely try.

[Tribetime]

45. You are way more optimistic than me.

Biden barely won Michigan Georgia Pennsylvania and Arizona. He was doing much better 4 yrs ago at this time, I just don't see how he wins this year.

[czarjak]

55. The alternative is unacceptable. Fact.

[Polybius]

52. What if he wins?

Do you still think there will be violence?

[Bucky]

60. His messaging depends on bullying, and bullying always leads to violence

There's been a spike in hate crimes in America over the last 7 years. The cause isn't hard to guess

[ecstatic]

58. Speaking of which, a friend sent me this screenshot from the trump team

Now why would they be handing out knives? 🤔 😒