Mary Trump rips Jon Stewart for 'bringing back the same B.S. - NJ.com

[erronis]

Forgot the link: https://www.nj.com/entertainment/2024/02/mary-trump-rips-jon-stewart-for-bringing-back-the-same-bs-that-helped-donald-elected-in-2016.html

Mary Trump rips Jon Stewart for ‘bringing back the same B.S. ... that helped Donald get elected in 2016?

Excellent piece. Mary Trump's quote:

Wrote Mary Trump: “A lot has changed in the nine years since Jon Stewart was host of the Daily Show. One thing that hasn’t – Jon Stewart.”

Stewart will host the show on Monday nights between now and the election, he indicated. He’ll also head the election coverage of “The Daily Show” as an executive producer.

She pointed to one of Stewart’s jokes as an example: “We’re not suggesting neither man is vibrant, productive, or even capable …” Stewart told his viewers. “But they are both stretching the limits of being able to handle the toughest job in the world.”

[erronis]

1. A longer excerpt from Mary

“In what universe is Donald vibrant, productive or capable? And this statement wasn’t even tongue-in-cheek. Stewart was making a straight-up comparison.

“There are no excuses here. Stewart knows who Donald is. Donald isn’t vibrant. He is compulsive and unhinged. Donald isn’t productive. He is inept. Donald isn’t capable. He is a disaster. ...

“I don’t even care that he brought up President Biden’s age. ... The fact of the matter is, Biden is old. It’s absurd to pretend otherwise, so, let’s just own it. It’s that Stewart is pretending ... that Donald can be favorably compared to President Biden by any metric. This is a serious question: What possible purpose does that serve, especially since it is completely wrong?”

She continued: “President Biden is an elder statesman with experience to get things done that can give American democracy a fighting chance. The alternative?

“A cruel, unfit, rapist who, in addition to being a criminal defendant under four indictments, sides with our enemies at every opportunity.”

[spooky3]

2. Mary made the contrast perfectly. Nt

[NoRethugFriends]

3. Thank You. I do not understand those on this site who thought he was OK on Monday

He was not!

Jordan Klepper has been excellent the next two nights

[Probatim]

9. I had the same impression of JS during the show - made it through the first 5 minutes and had to turn it off.

It was too much of an attempt for bothsidesism.

[kimbutgar]

16. Same here

I was so excited to see him back and I was so disappointed i also turned it off. Won’t be watching him next Monday.

Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday I’ll be watching.

[crimycarny]

27. Yep--me too

I was excited to see Jon Stewart back. However, I found myself not only vastly disappointed--but not the least bit entertained either. I sat there stone-faced, waiting for the joke, and instead felt like Jon Steward had become Bill Maher-lite.

Watching the small portion of the show that I did (had to turn it off), my impression was that Jon Stewart has gotten a bit caught up in his own identity as some sort of "cut through the bullshit truth teller". The show seemed more about him (Jon Stewart) proving he's "not afraid to call it as I see it", but his "vision" is coming from someone extremely privileged. Easy to be complacent about the real risks Trump presents when you've got millions in the bank and thus don't need to worry about your 401K tanking, or losing your healthcare, or losing your Social Security. I think Jon's monologue would have been quite different if he was "calling it and seeing it" from the perspective of the average citizen.

I won't be watching it again. I imagine next Monday's show he'll spend the vast majority doubling down and defending his stance. No thanks.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

23. Ha! I made it through 7 minutes (of a youtube posted on DU somewhere).

[elleng]

24. Ditto

[bdamomma]

51. Randi Rhodes

said the same thing about" bothsidesism", she was not impressed and even she said for him to stop saying those things.

[patphil]

6. Her last two sentences were words I would have liked Jon Stewart to have said.

But he didn't. He was too busy being cutesy.

[BComplex]

13. Great post, erronis!

Spot on!

[Trueblue1968]

33. Mary trump is right. I thought Jon Stewart was STUPID. I wont waste my time on him.

[walkingman]

4. I gave him a try last Monday but nothing to it. Tried too hard to be bipartisan.

[et tu]

17. yes very lukewarm

on a make or brake it topic-disappointing~

[SergeStorms]

21. He doesn't want to seem....

like he's taking sides here. Corporate America is watching, after all. Jon is most astute when he's thinking about his finances.

[Marcus IM]

5. Sorry for asking ... is there a link to this? Thanks in advance. n/t

[erronis]

8. Oh, damn. I always try to supply the links. Will update the OP!

https://www.nj.com/entertainment/2024/02/mary-trump-rips-jon-stewart-for-bringing-back-the-same-bs-that-helped-donald-elected-in-2016.html

[SocialDemocrat61]

10. Yes

What’s wrong with that?

[erronis]

11. My sentiments exactly. Thank you for so pithily stating them.

Of course having most of these boring monologues dissolve into nothingness would also be fine by me.

[SunSeeker]

12. As opposed to what? The Trump Normalization Hour?

Why would you want that?

[Cha]

15. YES.. Why he Hell not? Mary T knows what she's Talking About.

Mary Trump rips Jon Stewart for ‘bringing back the same B.S. ... that helped Donald get elected in 2016?

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

30. What is wrong with telling the truth?

Trump does suck and if he gets elected again, it will be disastrous for our country.

I did not watch Stewart but if he is trying to play the “both sides” card, I have no interest in what he is saying. Trump is an evil person and Biden is not.

[SoFlaBro]

31. Why not when he actually sucks liquid shit through a twisty straw?

[hatrack]

41. Yes, because he sucks and is dangerous . . .

Like Bannon and the rest of the goon squad with which he surrounds himself.

[RAB910]

14. John Stewart doesn't understand what he is dealing with in today's world

He still clings to the old ways. The old ways that Trump and the MAGA movement made extinct with their willingness to sink to any depth and commit any crime

[dlk]

18. Exactly, Mary Trump understands her uncle all to well

I was very disappointed in Stewart's performance and won't watch the show, again.

[et tu]

19. js can still

get laughs and chuckles while also being truthful,
why he thinks defendant 45 and biden are on equal
terms is disturbing. and yes i know it's comedy but
i hoped for better~

[rdchili96]

38. Lies....

Jon never said anything about them being equal.

[flying_wahini]

20. I did watch the show and although Harsh on ageism he speaks for many, many young people out there

Who complain ad nauseam about how we have the same candidates as before, many
other complaints too.
The two party state combined with the Electoral Collage has them on the edge of insanity if you talk to them at all. Stewart talked about it and I think it may be part of a larger strategy for him to speak to those issues. Who knows, maybe some young Magas who never have watched his show are targets.

It brings up many of my own worries to. When I talk to people in their 30’s especially.
I keep saying “GO VOTE, it’s So Important “ but they are despondent.
I worry for them all. I hear despair from so many .
Now is not the time to try and change those issues. After the election, maybe?
Voting is the ONE action that matters.

[erronis]

29. Well said. And another older statesman said that allowing parties to rule would destroy democracy.

I believe that the threats to our form of government are not on its structure, but because we have accepted an independent amoral crass money-driven set of politicians and lobbyists and money to decide on what issues we can see and vote on.

Basically the artificial "Democrat" and "Republicon" parties are the governance instead of the elected officials that represent their consituents.

Money is the basis of all evil. Capitalism is legalized theft.

[MHdude]

22. Viacom

Comedy Central is owned by Viacom, who demand that Jon Stewart engages in copious amounts of "bothsiderism"

[PurgedVoter]

25. John Stewart is just scared

He is aware that anyone with a platform who speaks the truth about DJT and DJT wins, they will be put in the middle of a circle of men with automatic weapons and shot to death before being made into hamburders.

[NoMoreRepugs]

26. Stewart was really disappointing. Attempting to equate a lunatic with a statesman was terrible.

[betsuni]

28. Mary Trump is correct.

Mentions that pointless rally Stewart and Colbert did, cynical bothsiderism resulting in lower voter turnout.

[Renew Deal]

32. Is he wrong?

[sop]

34. "But they are both stretching the limits of being able to handle the toughest job in the world."

Biden's been handling the toughest job in the world quite well these last three years. Can't say the same about Trump's time in office.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

35. Brava!

[Hassler]

36. As Keith Olberman pointed out, the people

Riding the But His Age train--like Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, Maureen Dowd, and Chris Wallace are also old, past their prime, etc.

[rdchili96]

40. ...

Keith Olbermann is a blowhard.

[erronis]

42. I mainly agree. He is 90% bluster and 5% newsworthy.

Whenever a presenter gets so caught up in their own histrionics I'll turn them off.

[Hassler]

47. I Find his analysis of current events to be spit on

Generally in his first segment. He also know he's a blowhard, which he honestly points out on his final segment. He's also one to point out inconvenient facts, like how St Rachel of Maddow pulls her punches when it comes to the bs at MSNBC.

[Hassler]

48. I find his analysis of current events to be spot on.

Generally in his first segment. He also know he's a blowhard, which he honestly points out on his final segment. He's also one to point out inconvenient facts, like how St. Rachel of Maddow pulls her punches when it comes to the bs at MSNBC.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

50. At least he stands up to trump

And supports democracy.

[rdchili96]

37. ....

*Yawn*

It's embarrassing how much of an echo chamber this place has become.

[hatrack]

44. 'Kay, bye . . .

.

[Sky Jewels]

39. Jon Stewart has the arrogance and luxury of a rich white man who

is smug and secure in the knowledge that HE won't suffer under a fascist, white male supremacist Trump dictatorship.

He can fuck right off.

[erronis]

45. So why are you bothering to spew?

[Blue Idaho]

46. Stick a fork in Stewart

He’s done.

[betsuni]

49. Media does both sides, Democrats get mad. Stewart is a true believer in both sides, no surprise

Democrats get mad -- Biden isn't a power-hungry insane senile egomaniac dictator who'd refuse to step down if he couldn't do the job, kill us all with nuclear bombs because he pressed the wrong button. Nobody is saying Biden is young and his age is a hoax. Nobody remembers the eight years he was VP, the joke memes with Obama, jokes about his gaffes?

People who believe both sides see nothing wrong with the false equivalency, it's truth to them. The rest of us live in the real world.

I saw the movie "Irresistible," a political satire, and the false equivalency was immediate. I was confused until I looked it up. Jon Stewart movie. Fantasy world where there isn't any policy or personality difference between Republicans and Democrats, everyone is nice and wants to raise taxes, built schools, help The People.

[Doc Sportello]

52. Never understood his appeal

He had excellent players like Colbert and Black, who would lead into Stewart's reactions to stories - which to me seemed to be mostly mugging for the camera without a lot of wit. Then he held the both sides BS rally, which showed to me he is more about himself and doesn't have near the understanding of our country that he thinks he does.

[BWdem4life]

53. A bit of a quibble with Mary here...

Stewart's wording leaves room to say he was not describing Trump that way. He said "we're not saying that neither man is ... " which could mean that ONE (and only one) of the two men IS.

Still not a great way to word it, and I was fairly disappointed just like most here, but I like Stewart enough to at least give him another chance without saying "stick a fork in him, he's done."

[UTUSN]

54. K&R for,

First I accepted him as a prime Lib.
Then I was mystified when he knocked Crossfire off of CNN.
Then I was disturbed his making nice to O,'Reilly.
Then I was pissed his pandering to Glen Beckkk's come together rally in DC.
Is he 3rd Way?
Then more with the Jerry LEWIS preaching and scolding for his charity.
Now back, couldn't make it?
Not for me.