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sop

(10,410 posts)
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:17 PM Feb 2024

Florida cop hears acorn fall on his car, runs for cover, empties his gun at police car with suspect inside.

Cops arrested a suspect, searched, handcuffed and placed him in the back of the police vehicle. Arresting officer hears an acorn drop from a tree onto the roof of his vehicle, thinks it's a gunshot, runs for cover, dives on the ground, empties his magazine shooting at his own police car with the unarmed, handcuffed suspect sitting inside. Officer can be heard on body cam saying he's been hit. Partner also opens fire on police vehicle. This video is amazing: (edit: skip to 13:00 minute mark when shooting begins)

https://jalopnik.com/florida-cop-empties-his-gun-runs-for-cover-after-acorn-1851255383


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Florida cop hears acorn fall on his car, runs for cover, empties his gun at police car with suspect inside. (Original Post) sop Feb 2024 OP
Cops a little jumpy. Maybe, they should find another line of work. republianmushroom Feb 2024 #1
Way Too Much Of This ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #3
Also needed, random, manditory drug tests, too much steroid use by too many LEOs. It's bad for the mind. Attilatheblond Feb 2024 #35
I made a donut/coffee joke, but I think steroids is a problem. LeftInTX Feb 2024 #50
A Reasonable Concern (nt) ProfessorGAC Feb 2024 #58
"Fine" another line of work??? yagotme Feb 2024 #5
Should of been a d instead of an e. Thank you for the spelling lesson, your day is now complete. republianmushroom Feb 2024 #9
Thanks. No charge for the lesson. yagotme Feb 2024 #10
another correction ahlnord Feb 2024 #62
Too much coffee? coprolite Feb 2024 #12
That's just nutty RoadRunner Feb 2024 #2
Yup. Literally. yagotme Feb 2024 #6
Welcome to FloriDUH! RKP5637 Feb 2024 #4
And here's a different way to deal with drunk driving. GoneOffShore Feb 2024 #75
When will acorns learn all they need to do is comply with law enforcement's demands. Torchlight Feb 2024 #7
Because fucking Florida. That's why. SoFlaBro Feb 2024 #8
extreme cowardice oldinmtdem92 Feb 2024 #11
An incredible chicken. SarahD Feb 2024 #42
One problem is there's too many cops Bucky Feb 2024 #70
Oh my god I actually lol'd. In the meantime, FTP. ETA: WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2024 #13
Well maybe if the country were not AWASH with firearms the cops wouldn't be afraid all the time. WHY are they not GuppyGal Feb 2024 #14
Beat me to it as my post came just after yours genxlib Feb 2024 #16
That is an excellent question. nt redqueen Feb 2024 #26
Simple answer, job security unweird Feb 2024 #76
And why do so many of them support the political party tanyev Feb 2024 #28
I guess their jobs are boring and they want more shootouts... Omnipresent Feb 2024 #32
Probably because they themselves like guns. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2024 #33
That is some fucking terrible policework genxlib Feb 2024 #15
"A cat in a room full of rocking chairs" Omnipresent Feb 2024 #38
PTSD response? Oneironaut Feb 2024 #17
Reportedly the cop had served in Afghanistan, probably suffering from PTSD, he was hired anyway. sop Feb 2024 #19
I once had a window busted out by an acorn while driving... ExciteBike66 Feb 2024 #18
The officer resigned DC77 Feb 2024 #20
Officer safety Johnny2X2X Feb 2024 #25
If guy in police car had died, would jumpy cop just get to retire? Demovictory9 Feb 2024 #51
this goes along with my gun nutter newdayneeded Feb 2024 #21
Damn Emile Feb 2024 #22
A cop that jittery probably shit himself, as well. Aristus Feb 2024 #23
Pulled a Ted Nugent, aka pulling a Trumpy 'Diaper Donny' Special Celerity Feb 2024 #45
What happened to the suspect? Ritabert Feb 2024 #24
That is also my question. 1WorldHope Feb 2024 #27
Not injured at the time, but perhaps has PTSD muriel_volestrangler Feb 2024 #30
Thanks for the update Ritabert Feb 2024 #60
Luckily it seems the suspect, Jackson, avoided physical injury. spudspud Feb 2024 #39
Incorrect, he is injured, just not physically obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #54
An acorn? Bayard Feb 2024 #29
What are they even shooting at? Renew Deal Feb 2024 #31
A car with someone they detained in the back. WhiskeyGrinder Feb 2024 #34
Right Renew Deal Feb 2024 #37
And, he is shooting right at his partner obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Feb 2024 #36
You have entered the Florida zone DBoon Feb 2024 #40
"Good guy with a gun stops acorn" struggle4progress Feb 2024 #41
I think we know who the real nut is in this story Blue Owl Feb 2024 #43
I'll be honest angrychair Feb 2024 #44
I worry about road rage. It's a real problem here. Vehicles and guns both. LeftInTX Feb 2024 #49
Especially in a state angrychair Feb 2024 #52
your last sentence should be onethatcares Feb 2024 #61
It's the warrior cop attitude DVRacer Feb 2024 #46
How he was faking like he was shot. GreenWave Feb 2024 #47
The male cop thought that, because he is an idiot obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #56
Too much caffeine! LeftInTX Feb 2024 #48
The sky is falling, Henny Penny Police!!! Ziggysmom Feb 2024 #53
SQUIRREL!!!11! JustABozoOnThisBus Feb 2024 #57
Has no business being a police officer tulipsandroses Feb 2024 #59
I think Jesse's gummy kicked in... Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2024 #63
Florida. Good thing it wasn't a coconut. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2024 #64
Aren't Norfolk Island Pines just as bad? 15 pound cones! LeftInTX Feb 2024 #72
Getting bonked on the head by a coconut was in the top 5 causes of death in this town in the early 1900's mahina Feb 2024 #73
Nuts! Kennah Feb 2024 #65
Chances of being killed by a nut is low but never zero Kennah Feb 2024 #66
Dude seems squirrelly Kennah Feb 2024 #67
He seems to have misunderstood the directive to stop nuts Kennah Feb 2024 #68
Panakin Squirreldodger is a real hero! TheKentuckian Feb 2024 #69
Freeze frame at 13:10, he's unloading his clip into the back window and there's a lady on the street... Bucky Feb 2024 #71
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2024 #74
It is his partnet, Sgt Beth Roberts obamanut2012 Feb 2024 #77
Hopefully the cop was tested for drugs and will be responsible for paying ecstatic Feb 2024 #78

ProfessorGAC

(65,681 posts)
3. Way Too Much Of This
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:26 PM
Feb 2024

Every occurrence has them "legitimately" fearing for the lives and safety. An acorn?
Then 2 cops fire at a guy THEY KNOW is unarmed and handuffed.
I think there are way too many cops that need to be in a different line of work.

Attilatheblond

(2,342 posts)
35. Also needed, random, manditory drug tests, too much steroid use by too many LEOs. It's bad for the mind.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 02:45 PM
Feb 2024

Panic attacks are horrible and can make you feel like having a heart attack, faint, or control over limbs can fail. No cop should empty a magazine into a car with a suspect they KNOW was not armed at the time just because he heard a noise and went full fight/flight mode. That sort of person is too jumpy and should not be a cop.

republianmushroom

(14,161 posts)
9. Should of been a d instead of an e. Thank you for the spelling lesson, your day is now complete.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:31 PM
Feb 2024

I will change it for you.

yagotme

(3,064 posts)
10. Thanks. No charge for the lesson.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:35 PM
Feb 2024


(BTW, my wife tells me I have a twisted sense of humor sometimes. Your post just tickled my funny bone.)

ahlnord

(91 posts)
62. another correction
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 05:33 PM
Feb 2024

Correction: It should be "Should HAVE" instead of "Should OF." This mistake is more and more commonly made on the internet.

GoneOffShore

(17,349 posts)
75. And here's a different way to deal with drunk driving.
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 08:07 AM
Feb 2024

Not saying that it happens like this all the time, because it doesn't, but still.

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Torchlight

(3,539 posts)
7. When will acorns learn all they need to do is comply with law enforcement's demands.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:28 PM
Feb 2024

Thoughts and prayers that officer Snowflake's wounds heal quickly, it may even bruise. The horror. The horror...

oldinmtdem92

(47 posts)
11. extreme cowardice
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:38 PM
Feb 2024

not suited for any public service .whats wrong with police in America [too many hand guns everywhere in this country.]thanks asshole republicans.

SarahD

(1,421 posts)
42. An incredible chicken.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 03:19 PM
Feb 2024

He hides behind the car, loses control of his handgun, just completely blows it. He is so scared he can't function at all. They'll probably award him for heroism.

Bucky

(54,162 posts)
70. One problem is there's too many cops
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 07:47 PM
Feb 2024

We're a heavily policed society -- in large part because we have more guns than people. But you got municipal cops, county cops, state cops, highway cops, university and school district cops, mall cops, constable cops, private security cops, transit cops, port cops, airport cops, border cops... So many job opportunities, there's just bound to be the occasional cop who isn't in the right line of work.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,602 posts)
13. Oh my god I actually lol'd. In the meantime, FTP. ETA:
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:44 PM
Feb 2024

I'm laughing at his dumbass double roll; I would pay money to see it. But hearing the screaming girlfriend...again, well, FTP.

GuppyGal

(1,748 posts)
14. Well maybe if the country were not AWASH with firearms the cops wouldn't be afraid all the time. WHY are they not
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:45 PM
Feb 2024

the loudest voices about gun control?

genxlib

(5,548 posts)
16. Beat me to it as my post came just after yours
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:47 PM
Feb 2024

That question as to why they aren't demanding gun control has vexed me as well. Makes no sense.

tanyev

(42,774 posts)
28. And why do so many of them support the political party
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 02:14 PM
Feb 2024

that’s been pushing guns like a drug dealer pushes drugs??

genxlib

(5,548 posts)
15. That is some fucking terrible policework
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:45 PM
Feb 2024

If you properly searched and arrested the suspect, you should have no fear of him shooting at you.

One thing I will say is that beyond the bad policing, this speaks to one of the many underlying problems with our gun culture. Due to the proliferation of guns, the police have come to expect that every single interaction is potentially deadly. While there might be some theoretical truth to that, it has no doubt brought a level of jumpiness to their actions that makes them terrible at assessing situations.

They have become the proverbial cat in a room full of rocking chairs and it is make them as bad as they have ever been at determining what the real dangers are.

Oneironaut

(5,561 posts)
17. PTSD response?
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:48 PM
Feb 2024

That’s what I was wondering when I first saw this on Reddit.

That or just a trigger-happy cop. I remember some woman got shot and killed in Minneapolis after she slapped a police car, which the cop inside interpreted as a gun shot.

sop

(10,410 posts)
19. Reportedly the cop had served in Afghanistan, probably suffering from PTSD, he was hired anyway.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:55 PM
Feb 2024

The officer resigned while the incident was still being investigated.

ExciteBike66

(2,430 posts)
18. I once had a window busted out by an acorn while driving...
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 01:49 PM
Feb 2024

I actually asked the passenger if he had been hit.

What I did not do was empty a clip in the direction of the squirrel who threw it...

DC77

(107 posts)
20. The officer resigned
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 02:01 PM
Feb 2024

The first one, Hernandez. Not his partner, Beth. I actually read the article.

“Officer safety” is stressed over and over in training. Taken too far. Most people would agree this was awful. Shoot first and ask questions later is a bad policy. Also, any pop or noise should not be an excuse to empty your sidearm. Can’t you tell an acorn drop is different than a gun going off? Would be extremely loud even inside a car, right?

Johnny2X2X

(19,419 posts)
25. Officer safety
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 02:14 PM
Feb 2024

Agree! These officers spend all their training being told they're going to die any second if they don't be overly aggressive with force.

Police officer is an incredibly hard job, and it can be dangoous, but it's far from the most dangerous job out there. But this was an example of that fear of danger being too much of a focus.

The bigger part of the difficulty IMO would be the psychological aspect of only getting to see people at their worst day after day and shift after shift. Rarely do police see people at their best, too often they only get to interact with people having one of the worst days of their lives. Being trained to handle and deal with that aspect of it emotionally is what's lacking IMO.

newdayneeded

(1,970 posts)
21. this goes along with my gun nutter
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 02:08 PM
Feb 2024

theory. To see what would happen if you light a pack of fire crackers off in the middle of a gun show. lol

Aristus

(66,649 posts)
23. A cop that jittery probably shit himself, as well.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 02:12 PM
Feb 2024

They must have left that part out.

We seriously need to stop leaving police forces open to these otherwise unemployable cowardly shitheads.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,482 posts)
30. Not injured at the time, but perhaps has PTSD
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 02:25 PM
Feb 2024
“A few moments later I hear an officer scream ‘I’m hit, he’s armed’!” Jackson said in the post. “As soon as that was announced multiple shots were fired at me while I was stuck in the backseat. All I could do was lean over and play dead to prevent getting shot in the head.”

Jackson said he was “scared to death and I knew all I could depend on was God! I ignored everything and prayed! Windows were shattering on me the whole time as bullets continued flying across me.”

He said he was blessed not to get hit by bullets or physically be hurt, “but mentally, I’m not ok. I haven’t been the same since and I don’t think this feeling I have will ever change.”

“I truly believe I’m damaged for life!”

https://news.yahoo.com/okaloosa-county-deputy-resigned-december-002609504.html

spudspud

(513 posts)
39. Luckily it seems the suspect, Jackson, avoided physical injury.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 02:56 PM
Feb 2024

Last edited Wed Feb 14, 2024, 06:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Also, no weapon was found. I'm sure the squirrel that dropped the acorn on the police car's top was initially laughing his ass off at the cop rolling on the floor yelling shots fired. With all the shots fired between Hernandez and Roberts at the car, and yet not hitting Jackson, I suspect the squirrel may have been hit instead.

obamanut2012

(26,230 posts)
54. Incorrect, he is injured, just not physically
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 04:04 PM
Feb 2024

He has PTSD and has struggled mentally and emotionally since this happened.

Not a jab at you, but I wish reporters would remember that injuries aren't only physical.

Response to sop (Original post)

angrychair

(8,796 posts)
44. I'll be honest
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 03:27 PM
Feb 2024

I'm much more afraid of being shot by some unhinged cop than I am anyone else.

As we see here they can empty their guns into anything they want and it's all good.
If I empty my gun into a parked vehicle I'm going to jail.
One of my greatest fears is being shot to death for just reaching for my insurance card because some cop has a chip on his shoulder and an itchy trigger finger and they just get to go to work the next day like nothing happened and Im getting cremated.

angrychair

(8,796 posts)
52. Especially in a state
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 03:48 PM
Feb 2024

With no requirements for training, licensing or background or mental health check.
Texas is the only place I've had someone hit my car, on purpose, then drive away. Used to live in Frisco and this person in a Nissan Titan just pushed on through to get around me into a turn lane, putting a huge tear in the side of the minivan we owned at the time. They never even paused. Just kept going like nothing happened.

onethatcares

(16,254 posts)
61. your last sentence should be
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 05:11 PM
Feb 2024

"They get to retire and collect benefits the next day..............."

Just sayin'

DVRacer

(709 posts)
46. It's the warrior cop attitude
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 03:37 PM
Feb 2024

This guy had no business being on patrol. It reminded me of Betty Shelby here in Tulsa. She shot first and asked questions later Terrace Crutcher was having an episode due to drugs. Only after backup arrived another officer fired his taser the pop coupled with her trigger finger caused her to panic.

GreenWave

(6,930 posts)
47. How he was faking like he was shot.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 03:39 PM
Feb 2024

Complainant screaming did not help communication.

Pro tip: No blood = not shot.

Why did they presume the suspect in the car was doing the shooting?

obamanut2012

(26,230 posts)
56. The male cop thought that, because he is an idiot
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 04:09 PM
Feb 2024

The suspect was handcuffed and had been searched TWICE before being put in the back of the SUV. He screams the suspect is shooting from the back, but the window is intact. He literally is rolling and somersaulting away, drops a loaded mag, screams he's hit, crawls behind a Tesla, and when he is shooting he is endangering his partner, who is in his fire vector. He reloads and keeps firing.

She at least didn't keep firing after the mag ran out. She at least was questioning Cop1 and radioed for help.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,240 posts)
64. Florida. Good thing it wasn't a coconut.
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 05:58 PM
Feb 2024

I've been attacked by coconuts twice. One fell on my head (a baby one, thankfully), and one committed suicide by throwing itself in front of my motorcycle (that one taught me what a pound or two of subcutaneous gravel feels like). They'll sneak up on you, if you don't watch it.

mahina

(17,840 posts)
73. Getting bonked on the head by a coconut was in the top 5 causes of death in this town in the early 1900's
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 05:51 AM
Feb 2024

Might have been the top 10

Some people trim them, some don't and I look up frequently when walking on windy days.

aloha

Bucky

(54,162 posts)
71. Freeze frame at 13:10, he's unloading his clip into the back window and there's a lady on the street...
Wed Feb 14, 2024, 07:55 PM
Feb 2024

I think it's a lady, I might be wrong, but she was not 10º off from his line of fire. This could have gone very very differently, very wrong.

Understanding that a camera won't capture the full view of what the officer saw, there doesn't seem to be any particular target for him to shoot at. I'm glad he's moved on to a different line of work. I hope he gets the help he needs to deal with his PTSD.

Response to Bucky (Reply #71)

obamanut2012

(26,230 posts)
77. It is his partnet, Sgt Beth Roberts
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 09:04 AM
Feb 2024

Who was helping the complainant. Her body cam shows how dumb he looks and acts.

ecstatic

(32,843 posts)
78. Hopefully the cop was tested for drugs and will be responsible for paying
Thu Feb 15, 2024, 09:52 AM
Feb 2024

for the damages to the car.

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