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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hated to do it, but I canceled my NY Times subscription.
I dont know how else to get through to them that they are falling far short of high journalistic standards. Just glance through their Opinion page and see all the attacks on Biden.
shrike3
(3,884 posts)Biden has not sat down with them for an interview during his presidency, and they feel "dissed." Thus, a sort of revenge. "See what happens when you don't do what we want?" I wish I had a subscription to cancel.
spooky3
(34,531 posts)Last edited Mon Feb 12, 2024, 12:33 AM - Edit history (1)
on MSNBC.
shrike3
(3,884 posts)Biden "hasn't had an interview with a major newspaper." IOW, he hasn't sat down with the NYT, and lord we can't have that.
You're right about them both being insufferable.
The Unmitigated Gall
(3,838 posts)But I already did, over Judith Miller's shit-show. Haven't seen much worthwhile since then.
spooky3
(34,531 posts)But Im really angry that they seem to be playing Kool Kids Klub rather than recognizing the serious threat to democracy we are facing.
orleans
(34,098 posts)headlines and articles that seemed to lean anti dem anti biden. (fuck that)
anyway, i just googled wordle, clicked on the link and am able to play. so there's a plus for you if you have a change of heart and want to cancel.
there is also the archive.is
and that will archive any paywall article you want to read
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,968 posts)The NYT has become a source of TFG/Putin propaganda
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Cha
(298,087 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,899 posts)They wanted to raise it by $40 for the year.
question everything
(47,600 posts)We all mock the ones who get their information only from Fox, or YouTube (YouTube?) so I think that DUers should make an extra effort to be exposed to all sources, even if posting them here violates the rules.
But individually we should.
spooky3
(34,531 posts)People have different points of view on what those facts mean, or they have different opinions based on differing values, it can be valuable to read those. But where there is substantial distortion of facts, or an unjustified weighting of some facts, that is another matter. And thats what I have seen too often from the NYT. I will keep my WaPo subscription and read The Guardian and other sources. But it is time for the NYT to do a very serious reckoning.
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dalton99a
(81,708 posts)Cha
(298,087 posts)Spooky!
About this time of year.
chowder66
(9,108 posts)To the L. A. Times instead. Its my local paper.
I know the NYT has very good articles but I cant take the bullshit they keep putting out. Its one thing to have a different point of view but its an entirely different thing to treat both sides as the same when the facts are there for everyone to see. If they ever straighten that out I will consider renewing.
BadgerMom
(2,772 posts)Ill miss games, cooking and many news items. But I feel as small a gesture as this is, I had to do something for my own peace of mind.
As far as reading only progressive sources, I feel no guilt. I read and support the Guardian and ProPublica because I think they are great exemplars of responsible journalism, unlike much of the Times bothsiderism. I dont use my money to support a source with which I frequently disagree.
TeamProg
(6,363 posts)spooky3
(34,531 posts)bsiebs
(689 posts)JI7
(89,289 posts)by being critical of Trump. BUt even then they wont give full details as they want to save it for their books later.
LT Barclay
(2,618 posts)smug and intolerable.
St. Louis Post Dispatch and Globe Democrat used to be great papers and I never saw any need to look at the NYT.
So personally, I'd love to see it fail.
aggiesal
(8,963 posts)spooky3
(34,531 posts)And this is the straw that broke the camels back. There have been multiple problems over time.
HAB911
(8,957 posts)pwb
(11,318 posts)All newspapers have opinion pages. Hell that is all cable news is Opinion.
spooky3
(34,531 posts)Detail on my (and others) decision. Go to the opinion page and see the biased presentation of multiple articles, and youll ask yourself why the Times didnt insist on higher quality pieces, and then, why am I paying to read this s&@t, again?
The Times has had long standing problems of this type, in its reporting and editorializing. They are so fearful of criticism from the right when they tell the truth, that they bend over backwards to appear fair and balanced.
JohnSJ
(92,528 posts)the republican rejection of global warming.
From my perspective, I doubt that will make a change toward journalistic integrity at the NYTimes.
I believe they have made a conscious decision, like much of the MSM to move toward "bothsiderisms", instead of actually reporting news and facts. That alone accounts for a right wing shift.
This all started when bernard goldberg pushed his "liberal media" bullshit in his book Bias, which was embraced by fox, while others in the MSM moved toward reporting both sides do it when covering their stories.
Ironically, there is very little evidence of a "liberal media" today, and in fact there is a lot of evidence of a right wing media and bias. When 90% of the airwaves are dominated by conservative viewpoints, it should be no surprise we are where we are today.
It is all about money, and that is where they believe the money is, not with reporting the news.
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/talk-radio-by-the-numbers/