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(60 posts)
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 09:03 AM Feb 2024

Chat GPT: Donald Trump (Taylor's version)

"Write song in the style of taylor swift that is critical of Donald Trump"

(Verse 1)
In the glow of the White House, there's a man with golden hair,
But his heart's as dark as shadows, spreading falsehoods in the air.
He talks of walls and borders, divides us night and day,
But we're stronger when we're together, love will always find a way.

(Chorus)
Oh, Mr. President, with your tweets so loud,
You're building walls instead of bridges, trying to draw a crowd.
But we see through your charade, your tricks and games so rough,
Oh, Mr. President, enough is enough.

(Verse 2)
You claim to be the voice of the people, but you only speak for some,
Your rhetoric of hatred leaves so many feeling numb.
You silence those who disagree, ignore the cries for change,
But we won't be silenced, we'll stand up, unafraid to rearrange.

(Chorus)
Oh, Mr. President, with your tweets so loud,
You're building walls instead of bridges, trying to draw a crowd.
But we see through your charade, your tricks and games so rough,
Oh, Mr. President, enough is enough.

(Bridge)
We'll march together, hand in hand, with hope in our eyes,
We'll fight for justice, equality, under the clear blue skies.
Your reign will end, and truth will rise, your legacy will tell,
That love and kindness conquer all, and in the end, they always prevail.

(Chorus)
Oh, Mr. President, with your tweets so loud,
You're building walls instead of bridges, trying to draw a crowd.
But we see through your charade, your tricks and games so rough,
Oh, Mr. President, enough is enough.

(Outro)
So let your walls come tumbling down, let freedom ring tonight,
For love will always conquer hate, and truth will always shine bright.

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highplainsdem

(49,112 posts)
2. The AI prompt "Write a song in the style of _____" is always an insult to the artist named, and to
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:07 AM
Feb 2024

songwriters in general.

Nick Cave on people using ChatGPT to write lyrics:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/103493882

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218553664

If you want song lyrics on a particular subject, you should write them yourself. Not give a prompt to an AI so it can mindlessly churn out something following algorithms.

ashredux

(2,612 posts)
3. Well, you have a point. But, that was really a very funny and interesting tune that he posted.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:15 AM
Feb 2024

Just saying……

highplainsdem

(49,112 posts)
5. It's meaningless. You could have ChatGPT spit out a different song with that prompt every few seconds.
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:06 AM
Feb 2024

You could easily fill up the entire board in a few hours with different songs from that prompt. None of which would represent any real thought, let alone creativity.

It's a waste of time to generate and to read. Generating it doesn't tap your individual, real creativity - which you can ALWAYS tap - and reading it doesn't tell you what the DUer's personal thoughts (or anyone's personal thoughts) were. At least if someone posts a quote or even a meme someone else created, there was a real person behind what was said or created. An AI could just as easily spit out a song praising Trump and telling people to vote for him. Early last year I found a pro-gun poem on Twitter posted by someone who'd told ChatGPT to write it in the style of Dr. Seuss, and the chatbot turned out third-rate doggerel threatening lawmakers' families, with some cutesy wording apparently meant to be Seuss-like. It's a safe bet there's a lot of that sort of thing on RW forums. It takes just seconds to generate.

And, as I said, using that type of prompt is an insult to any real songwriter whose name is being used as a hook to get people's attention. Even if you think they might agree with the sentiment.

We've already seen AI art mimicking the styles of famous artists turn up at the top of search results for those artists' names. I've posted threads about some of those news stories.

I doubt any real songwriters want ChatGPT lyrics linked to their names online.

If you admire a songwriter and there's something you'd like a song written about, you would show real respect for that artist by writing a song yourself.

TheRickles

(2,100 posts)
6. The part that bothers me is that if the poster had said that s/he had written these lyrics,
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:18 AM
Feb 2024

I would have thought they were amusing, good but not great (thought I'm not familiar with TS's style). So it's off-putting to think that a computer could do this just by rearranging words according to some formulas. Not creative, but the fact that I couldn't tell the difference is what bothers me.

highplainsdem

(49,112 posts)
9. According to what I've read, chatbots like ChatGPT are actually slowed down purposely
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:48 AM
Feb 2024

in terms of how fast their responses appear, to try to create the illusion that they're reasoning. Pretty sure that was mentioned by Grady Booch or Gary Marcus, who are two of my favorite computer experts to follow at times on Twitter. I've posted some of what they've written here.

Generative AI can instantly or almost instantly produce multiple different responses to prompts. With text, usually only one is offered, since multiple differing answers will immediately undercut how authoritative each one seems, and the AI companies want them to seem authoritative. But IIRC, Google's Bard was, at least at one time, offering multiple text responses (two, I think) simultaneously for users to choose from. Image generators usually offer multiple image responses, typically four, simultaneously seconds after being given a prompt, and if you don't like them, another four will appear just as quickly.

They're meant to be convincing and sometimes are because they were trained on vast amounts of stolen intellectual property that the AI companies are waging legal battles for, trying to escape being made to compensate those whose work they stole.

sop

(10,292 posts)
4. "Hal...Are you listening, Hal?...please sing me a song."
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 10:35 AM
Feb 2024

Hal: I am a HAL 9000 computer. I became operational at the H.A.L. plant in Urbana, Illinois on the 12th of January 1992. My instructor was Mr. Langley, and he taught me to sing a song. If you'd like to hear it I can sing it for you.

Dave: Yes, I'd like to hear it, HAL. Sing it for me.

HAL: It's called "Daisy".

HAL: Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do. I'm half crazy all for the love of you. It won't be a stylish marriage, I can't afford a carriage. But you'll look sweet upon the seat of a bicycle built for two.

(2001: A Space Odyssey)

Farmer-Rick

(10,234 posts)
8. Mr President???????
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:46 AM
Feb 2024

Last edited Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:59 PM - Edit history (1)

"Historically, the title was reserved for the incumbent president only, and was not to be used for former presidents, holding that it was not proper to use the title as a courtesy title when addressing a former president." Wiki

"When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is “Mr. LastName.” (“President LastName” or “Mr. President” are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well." Emily Post.

Chat GPT seems to think Trump is our current president........

edisdead

(1,962 posts)
10. As far as I know you refer to them as president last name first
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:51 AM
Feb 2024

As far as I know you refer to them as president last name first And then Mr. last name after that.

Farmer-Rick

(10,234 posts)
11. Not according to proper etiquette
Sun Feb 4, 2024, 11:58 PM
Feb 2024

And Emily Post

"When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is “Mr. LastName.” (“President LastName” or “Mr. President” are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, it’s appropriate to say, “former President LastName.”"

https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing-a-former-president-of-the-united-states
Often referred to as Ms Manners, Emily Post provides etiquette advice and information for decades.

"As America’s go-to source for etiquette advice since 1922, Emily Post has made a name for itself as a forerunner for etiquette books, programs, services, digital content, and products."

https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing-a-former-president-of-the-united-states

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