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CousinIT

(9,261 posts)
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 12:34 PM Jan 2024

American Taliban: A men's movement takes reins in a nationwide quest to end abortion (and contraception)

A men’s movement takes reins in a nationwide quest to end abortion

Male-dominated network of militants, academics, attorneys, judges and activists lead drive to restrict, remove reproductive rights

https://ncnewsline.com/2023/09/16/a-mens-movement-takes-reins-in-a-nationwide-quest-to-end-abortion/

. . . Shrock surveilles the crowd while his wife, Dawn, cares for six of their 11 children on the opposite end of a sidewalk crowded with warring abortion messages. One of their daughters walks over, and Shrock explains she will wed soon. He’s been praying God will give her 20 children. (For privacy reasons, he doesn’t share her age.) One of his sons got married about six years ago at 18 and has had a child every year since. Shrock says with pride that Dawn, who wears a hair covering and a long dress, has never held a public job.

“God created a woman, not only to have a baby and a baby to grow inside of her, but to nurture a baby,” says Shrock, who is not a spokesperson or leader for the group. “I could never have the closeness to my children that my wife has. That’s because God created her that way. He created her different from me. And I know that goes against some of today’s norms. ‘We’re all the same’— that’s not what my Bible says.”

. . .

But even beyond the militant corner of the anti-abortion movement lies a male-dominated network of academics, attorneys, judges, lawmakers and lobbyists working on legal arguments that position fertilized eggs as constitutionally protected persons. And now that federal abortion rights no longer exist, these men are able to say the quiet part out loud: that somewhere between conception and the first few weeks of pregnancy, the rights of the zygote, embryo, or fetus trump those of the pregnant person.

South Carolina Supreme Court Justice John Kittredge recently argued as much in his opinion upholding the state’s so-called “heartbeat” ban, which was approved by the majority on what recently became the only all-male state supreme court in the nation.

. . .

What if she wants to climb the corporate ladder?’ Well, God created my wife to have babies, to — literally what it says in Titus.”

Operation Save America’s pervading message is about empowering men and boys to adopt an old, punitive Christian worldview, one more widely embraced when women had few rights and power.
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American Taliban: A men's movement takes reins in a nationwide quest to end abortion (and contraception) (Original Post) CousinIT Jan 2024 OP
Do those guys expect to ever get laid again? Ocelot II Jan 2024 #1
They're the type that doesn't take no for an answer. TSExile Jan 2024 #2
Yep. The MRAs typically believe rape should be legalized and/or CousinIT Jan 2024 #3
Yup TSExile Jan 2024 #4
Someone reported yesterday the number of woman who were raped and had to get abortions were kimbutgar Jan 2024 #5
They are definitely pro-rape. TSExile Jan 2024 #7
Call it what it is: White evangelical radicalism. Using "Taliban" and other terms to describe it is racist and WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #6
If the boys aren't careful there won't be a one MOMFUDSKI Jan 2024 #8
Someone called the bible "The Bronze Age Goat Herders Guide to the Galaxy." Timeflyer Jan 2024 #9

TSExile

(2,492 posts)
2. They're the type that doesn't take no for an answer.
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 12:42 PM
Jan 2024

They're bullies who will take what they want, no matter what.

CousinIT

(9,261 posts)
3. Yep. The MRAs typically believe rape should be legalized and/or
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 12:44 PM
Jan 2024

...just doesn't happen because all women are liars, harlots and sluts. Because...the bible and Eve and stuff.

TSExile

(2,492 posts)
4. Yup
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 12:47 PM
Jan 2024

See Focus on the Family, Gospel Coalition, Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, etc. Fundagelicals, all of them.

kimbutgar

(21,215 posts)
5. Someone reported yesterday the number of woman who were raped and had to get abortions were
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 12:48 PM
Jan 2024

the 14 anti women/ abortion states.

Like you said they definitely want to legalize rape!

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,453 posts)
6. Call it what it is: White evangelical radicalism. Using "Taliban" and other terms to describe it is racist and
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 12:50 PM
Jan 2024

orientalist -- it implies that this kind of fundamentalism is exotic and not something inherent in American culture, when it very much is. White supremacy, white Christian nationalism, etc., are much better descriptors.

Timeflyer

(2,010 posts)
9. Someone called the bible "The Bronze Age Goat Herders Guide to the Galaxy."
Fri Jan 26, 2024, 02:05 PM
Jan 2024

If the bible said women were in charge, would these dudes believe that? Maybe then they'd use reason and logic to argue for male/female equal rights.

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