On persuasion of our friends and fam on the right.

[mahina]

There is no amount of money in the world that can buy enough tv ads between now and Nov 2024 to get this work done.

So we have a responsibility to engage where we have politely ignored radical anti-American thought in prior years, for years, to preserve our own relationships and equilibrium.

I finally found out why it is so hard to to change their minds in the face of so much evidence. Listening to Andrew Huberman's podcast (as I often do,) his guest Dr Conti explained that emotion trumps logic every time. Link at the bottom of post (hint- if the ads bug you, it's better on the podcast, sponsors' messages up front and at the end only.)

One example he gave was that it is irrational to run into a burning building- but if one's loved ones were in the building? People do so all the time.

Anyway.

Dr Conti explained that cognition and emotion fire in completely different parts of the brain. There are a biological bases for the problem we face persuading these people.

So to engage actual thinking when they are deep in the emotion, we have to reach the emotion through thinking. I'm not explaining this really well...when time allows I may find the transcript and share it here.

The right wing and their apologists are not conservative. There is nothing conservative about trump. He is antidemocratic, authoritarian, anti-conservative, and is trying to burn down the treasure of democracy that our family bled for over 248 years. We are now tasked with the granular and tedious work of raising questions in the minds of our fam and friends, one by one, causing them to think through some of what they think they know.


Here is a good start...
https://thebigtruthbook.com

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With love. Always with love.If not love, then with kindness, and always with a vision of reconciliation and grace in mind.

Wishing you courage and aloha. It's about what is right, not who is right.

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[SoFlaBro]

1. These MAGA rapist and pedophile motherfuckers ain't worth a squirt o' owl piss Their brains are monkeyfucked from Qidiot

[mahina]

2. I will not fail to try.

[SoFlaBro]

3. The goddamn shit started with the fucking Tea Party back in '07 & gathered shit steam from there into full MAGA bullshit

[Hekate]

4. Just an observation from me: you could at least try to respect a fellow DUer's attempt at some grace

… in a rough & graceless political environment.

[mahina]

10. Not wrong but I dial it back to Reagan

Or Nixon

Try be gentle on yourself there

My Granddad used to say relax, calm down, a guy died once

[Hekate]

5. Best of luck, Mahina. I appreciate that you are trying.

[mahina]

9. Thanks sis

[JT45242]

6. Confirmation bias is also a part

A lot of research on this over the years from Deana Kuhn and her associates.

It takes a ton of evidence to make people change ideas.

Also, if you look at the conceptual change researcher done by science educators, you almost always need a discrepant event that makes you dissatisfied with your current hypothesis/understanding of a phenomenon. [Great article by Posner et al https://staff.science.uva.nl/e.joling/vakdidactiek/documenten/posner.pdf on this]

Think of how many people think Reagan was a great President or a religious guy in spite of dumping previous wife for Nancy and nevr going to a church.

[Demovictory9]

7. Approx 10 yrs ago, Republicans were in a lather over something Obama supposedly said.

Rightwing radio host was being honest and explaining that Obama hadn't made that statement. Callers were outraged at the radio host with one saying "I don't care if he didn't say it!!"

I've learned that RW media is giving them "the facts" they are predisposed to believe. They want to believe the economy is crashing simply because the prez is a dem.

I don't know what we do about it. Good luck 🍀
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[czarjak]

8. Religious or patriotic excuses are good enough?

[mahina]

11. you do you baby