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Kid Berwyn

(14,989 posts)
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 11:56 AM Jan 2024

"So what?"



Experts: Jack Smith’s “dramatic new proof” so “overwhelming” reluctant witnesses may decide to flip

Prof: Trump “demonstrated a criminal intent" to collaborate with insurrectionists at “expense of the Constitution"


by Areeba Shah
Salon.com, January 8, 2024

Former President Donald Trump refused to help stop the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol and instead watched TV from the White House, according to previously undisclosed details that special counsel Jack Smith's team uncovered as part of its Jan. 6 probe, ABC News reported.

SNIP...

“Trump was ‘very angry’ that day – not angry at what his supporters were doing to a pillar of American democracy, but steaming that the election was allegedly stolen from him and his supporters, who were ‘angry on his behalf,’” ABC News reported. “Scavino described it all as ‘very unsettling,’” sources told the outlet.

SNIP...

Former Trump aide Nick Luna also shared that when the ex-president was told about Vice President Mike Pence’s need to be moved to a secure location, Trump responded by saying "So what?" Luna perceived this as an “unexpected willingness” on Trump's part to expose a longtime loyalist to potential harm.

“Indeed, Trump’s angry response to Scavino’s comment to him that there’s smoke coming out of the Capitol in effect was, ‘Let it Burn,’” Gershman said. “And his nonchalant indifference to Vice President Pence’s safety and welfare offers chilling proof that Trump’s conscious purpose, namely, his intent, was first to incite an insurrection and then by his inaction to demonstrate his intent that the insurrection effectively stop Congress from doing its constitutional duty to certify the election results.”

CONTINUES...

https://www.salon.com/2024/01/08/experts-jack-smiths-dramatic-new-proof-so-overwhelming-reluctant-witnesses-may-decide-to-flip/

Not only is Trump a traitor, he is willing to murder his Vice President.
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"So what?" (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 OP
purportedly he also just threatnedd a sitting president. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #1
"If I don't get Immunity, then Crooked Joe Biden doesn't get Immunity." Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #2
yeppers. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #3
Toss in Roger Stone threatening to kill two DEM Congressmen... Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #4
si. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #5
id like to tell em to eff off. AllaN01Bear Jan 2024 #6
I don't understand people being surprised by this... Caliman73 Jan 2024 #7
Is Donald Trump normalizing political violence in America? Kid Berwyn Jan 2024 #8

Kid Berwyn

(14,989 posts)
2. "If I don't get Immunity, then Crooked Joe Biden doesn't get Immunity."
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 01:20 PM
Jan 2024
Trump threatens to indict Biden if the courts don't give him blanket immunity

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-threatens-indict-biden-courts-immunity-2024-1

Is that the threat you're referring to, AllaNO1Bear?

Either way, Trump really is the lowest of the low.


Kid Berwyn

(14,989 posts)
4. Toss in Roger Stone threatening to kill two DEM Congressmen...
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 01:46 PM
Jan 2024
Audio reveals Roger Stone mused about assassinating Democrats in 2020: 'He has to die'

https://www.alternet.org/roger-stone-2666909502/

...and the nation stands divided, with one faction led by a murdering neo-confederate NAZI. Don't Americans know a thing about history or Hitler?

I worry when the Democrats don't stand up -- at once and in with one voice -- to oppose these treasonous, murderous bastards.

Caliman73

(11,749 posts)
7. I don't understand people being surprised by this...
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 01:55 PM
Jan 2024

Angry and disgusted should be the normal response. Trump has shown us time and time again that he has no morals, no empathy, and no redeeming values at all. Even babies have a sort of "innate" sense of empathy to the pain of others. Trump does not. He is only interested in his own power, pleasure, and comfort.

For anyone who still thinks that Trump gives one solitary shit about them and their situation, get a life, take some medications, and stop living in your delusions.

Trump only demands loyalty but does not return it. The sooner people understand that, the sooner we will all be done with the idiot.

Kid Berwyn

(14,989 posts)
8. Is Donald Trump normalizing political violence in America?
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 04:04 PM
Jan 2024

by Hilary McQuilkin and Meghna Chakrabarti
On Point - WUBR, October 05, 2023

When Donald Trump suggested that General Mark Milley should be executed, it was the latest in a long line of violent rhetoric from the former President.

"When Mr. Trump says something through social media or at his rallies that deprecates another person names another person, those people then get threatened. They get threatened with violence," Mary McCord says.

"Their families get threatened for violence."

CONTINUES w/discussion with Mary McCord, Ruth Ben-Ghiatt and Brian Klaas...

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2023/10/05/donald-trump-normalizes-political-violence-in-america

I, too, am surprised at the shrugs and acceptance at what the pig-eyed bastard says and does. I'm so old, I remember when advocating violence against political opponents wasn't normal; it was NAZI.

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