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Magoo48

(4,721 posts)
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 11:07 AM Jan 2024

There doesn't appear to be a mature adult at any table of power on Earth.

The problem is, putting in place people with no religious, corporate, patriotic, cultural, nationalistic, or military axe to grind. These would be people simply wise enough to recognize that peace is the only way to salvage humanity and perhaps focus our needed resources on looming climate catastrophe, in other words, people with no power. Humanity is failing.

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There doesn't appear to be a mature adult at any table of power on Earth. (Original Post) Magoo48 Jan 2024 OP
1: Biden ret5hd Jan 2024 #1
So not only is the system shredding the environment Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #2
This is the most profound statement I have seen on DU in years. Autumn Jan 2024 #3
You forgot the greed aspect. shrike3 Jan 2024 #4
Yes i did. Greed, generally based in fear, may drive the rest. Magoo48 Jan 2024 #16
Zelensky DemSigns Jan 2024 #5
Joe Biden is one The Blue Flower Jan 2024 #6
We are indeed fortunate to have him. Magoo48 Jan 2024 #22
I hold out hope limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #7
younger generations 90-percent Jan 2024 #9
When the Boomer generation was the younger generation, soldierant Jan 2024 #11
Similar things happened/are happening with GenX limbicnuminousity Jan 2024 #13
The leader that we could use the most cannot be elected. I support Biden but he can only do so much twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #8
Agreed. Looking to the top for leadership is time wasted. Magoo48 Jan 2024 #17
The "left" isn't "left" enough. They just think they are. twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #18
There are bright spots on the horizon. rubbersole Jan 2024 #10
There are many mature adults at tables of power on Earth Progressive dog Jan 2024 #12
Facing facts is good. The fact is that without a massive, and relatively immediate Magoo48 Jan 2024 #19
Human values huh Progressive dog Jan 2024 #23
Just about EVERY Democrat in Congress. nt TeamProg Jan 2024 #14
They are grand and I'm glad we have them. The solutions humanity need are out Magoo48 Jan 2024 #20
Bullshit. Xoan Jan 2024 #15
Agreed. edisdead Jan 2024 #21

Voltaire2

(13,200 posts)
2. So not only is the system shredding the environment
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 11:13 AM
Jan 2024

but it is also shredding human consciousness. The disintegration of both are very much connected, they are the two external interfaces of the system. The problem is the system itself.

shrike3

(3,811 posts)
4. You forgot the greed aspect.
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 11:46 AM
Jan 2024

A lot of these people just want to accumulate as much as possible and to hell with the rest of us.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
9. younger generations
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 01:44 PM
Jan 2024

yeah, if my boomer generation (b.1954) doesn't environmentally incinerate all of them first.

-90% Jimmy

soldierant

(6,937 posts)
11. When the Boomer generation was the younger generation,
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 02:14 PM
Jan 2024

we were going to save the world. And we didn't change. But we didn't take power either.

The problem with hoping in the younger generation is that every generation has two kinds of people, and usually the ones who are interested in saving the world and not interested in power get pushed out by the time they are our age.

limbicnuminousity

(1,405 posts)
13. Similar things happened/are happening with GenX
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 02:28 PM
Jan 2024

I share your concerns. Anecdotal observations suggest that GenZ in particular knows something needs to change. Will it be enough? Who knows?

twodogsbarking

(9,834 posts)
8. The leader that we could use the most cannot be elected. I support Biden but he can only do so much
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 01:43 PM
Jan 2024

within the confines of our society. Too many opposing forces against what is needed. Compromise, while necessary, isn't for the best all of the time.

Magoo48

(4,721 posts)
17. Agreed. Looking to the top for leadership is time wasted.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:20 AM
Jan 2024

For a myriad of complex reasons, leadership from the top will remain stymied. There must be powerful grassroots upwellings across the human spectrum, movements with reasonably compatible long term goals, movements with dynamic leaders willing to collaborate and join forces into a wave of new thought which cannot be ignored. Perhaps Gen Z can pull it off?

rubbersole

(6,734 posts)
10. There are bright spots on the horizon.
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 01:51 PM
Jan 2024

Greta Thunberg, David Hogg, Taylor Swift...and just the politically aware young people across the globe. Too late to save the planet? They don't seem to think so. Neither do I.

Progressive dog

(6,921 posts)
12. There are many mature adults at tables of power on Earth
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 02:21 PM
Jan 2024

It's pretty tough to find a nation that does not include nationalists. Governments are supposed to protect their citizens from each other and from outside organizations. We need those protections as history shows us.
Mature adults face facts and find a way to live with facts that they cannot change. All those organizations you mention are inventions of humans. What would you replace them with. Peace is not an institution.

Magoo48

(4,721 posts)
19. Facing facts is good. The fact is that without a massive, and relatively immediate
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:31 AM
Jan 2024

paradigm shift if human values, the only courses worth teaching in K-12 on up will be adaptive civil engineering, creative survival options, and extinction avoidance theory.

Progressive dog

(6,921 posts)
23. Human values huh
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 10:11 PM
Jan 2024

What would the human value paradigm shift from and to?
Besides, extinction of humans is unlikely. No other animals can compete with us. I expect we will continue dumping green house gases into the atmosphere until the climate change limits our food supply enough to cause massive numbers of humans to die from hunger and wars over agricultural resources.

Magoo48

(4,721 posts)
20. They are grand and I'm glad we have them. The solutions humanity need are out
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 09:33 AM
Jan 2024

of their reach for the foreseeable future.

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