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applegrove

(118,865 posts)
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:30 AM Dec 2023

EVIDENCE DIRECTLY IMPLICATES SEN. RON JOHNSON IN TRUMP COUP

EVIDENCE DIRECTLY IMPLICATES SEN. RON JOHNSON IN TRUMP COUP

JASON EASLEY TOP NEWS FRI, DEC 29TH, 2023

POLITICUSUSA

https://www.politicususa.com/2023/12/29/evidence-directly-implicates-sen-ron-johnson-in-trump-coup.html

"SNIP...........

CNN reported:
Emails obtained by CNN corroborate what Chesebro told Michigan prosecutors: He communicated with the top Trump campaign lawyer, Matt Morgan, and another campaign official, Mike Roman, to ferry the documents to Washington on January 5.

From there, Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and a Pennsylvania congressman assisted in the effort to get the documents into Pence’s hands.

“This is a high-level decision to get the Michigan and Wisconsin votes there,” Chesebro told Michigan prosecutors. “And they had to enlist, you know, a US senator to try to expedite it, to get it to Pence in time.”

A spokesman for Sen. Johnson downplayed his involvement and said that it only amounted to a few seconds as if participating in an attempt to overthrow the United States government for just a few seconds makes the senator’s action less of a crime against democracy.

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EVIDENCE DIRECTLY IMPLICATES SEN. RON JOHNSON IN TRUMP COUP (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2023 OP
*the Republican Party when faced with a choice, chose to attack instead of defend democracy.' elleng Dec 2023 #1
I don't think it will be any time soon. There's too much we don't know yet. Deuxcents Dec 2023 #2
Right, I don't expect it to be soon, LOTS yet to occur and uncover, elleng Dec 2023 #3
Well...when it does happen, it will be a shocking event Deuxcents Dec 2023 #5
When will all of these guys get removed from ballots? Tumbulu Dec 2023 #4
That's a good question..it will take someone from each state to make the call Deuxcents Dec 2023 #6
I asked this before got no responses. How does one go about trying to get someone Maraya1969 Dec 2023 #38
Maybe make a request with Secretary of State? Bluethroughu Dec 2023 #52
The problem is that House & Senate (R)'s did what the Constitution allows ... aggiesal Dec 2023 #16
It's not allowed for them to participate in felonies in attempts to take over the government uponit7771 Dec 2023 #21
I agree, where's the evidence? ... aggiesal Dec 2023 #35
my state , ca refused to take him off the ballot. wonder if we can sue the state attorney.? AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #26
Nope. Ocelot II Dec 2023 #29
At least five years in Johnson's case FBaggins Dec 2023 #30
Do more than that !!!! Lock up johnson !!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Jan 2024 #55
Post removed Post removed Dec 2023 #7
Exactly!!! RoJo is in this up to his ears. And as others have pointed out he has he "own" jet. How convient! usaf-vet Dec 2023 #19
It only takes second E. Normus Dec 2023 #8
Russian Ronnie is a worthless POS who married into money to gain power. Many similarities to Ziggysmom Dec 2023 #9
Please get this man out of our public life, the Congress, AllyCat Dec 2023 #10
WHEN will these fucking repuke collaborators be held accountable Skittles Dec 2023 #11
Skittles -- forgive me for saying it, but they need an ass-kicking Hekate Dec 2023 #13
A friend of mine is reading Liz Cheney's book, & says the new Speaker of the House is everywhere in it... Hekate Dec 2023 #12
It will be so traumatizing. My thoughts are with sentient applegrove Dec 2023 #14
more ways than one , AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #27
Ronnie is Donnie's stinky diaper. Johnson is such a goddamn MAGA shitheel. He fucked up in supporting that bullshit. SoFlaBro Dec 2023 #15
Remember when RonJon faked talking on his cell phone Tanuki Dec 2023 #17
Kinda makes one wonder if Ron Johnson was onboard from the beginning or if other senators were asked first. TheBlackAdder Dec 2023 #18
RoJo has been a player and a planner sinces the years of Scott Walker. usaf-vet Dec 2023 #20
Russia installed Johnson in 2016 in Wisconsin.... Putin owns him. Botany Dec 2023 #37
been clear for a long time. How bout all Goopers that flew to Moscow on July 4th? Free pass. Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #51
The 2016 Wisconsin vote was loaded with Russian help and Russ Feingold was @ a ..... Botany Jan 2024 #57
So when is the DOJ going to start charging members of Congress? Emile Dec 2023 #22
I suspect they want to get the Big Dog first... lastlib Dec 2023 #47
One thing you have to say about this crowd, PCIntern Dec 2023 #23
It was just seconds. sellitman Dec 2023 #24
Congress has to stop protecting their own. lindysalsagal Dec 2023 #25
a lot of outfits need to stop protecting thier own. AllaN01Bear Dec 2023 #28
I'm not aware of any Reconstruction Era insurrectionist being tossed from Federal office bucolic_frolic Dec 2023 #31
Name of the PA Congressman: SCOTT PERRY RandomNumbers Dec 2023 #32
That scumbag needs to be imprisoned. dchill Dec 2023 #46
True. nt RandomNumbers Jan 2024 #56
It only amounted to a few seconds, in other words, guilty Walleye Dec 2023 #33
I'm thinking Smith wants the BIG PRIZE first. THEN bluestarone Dec 2023 #34
The statute of limitations will run long before that. former9thward Dec 2023 #49
I have no doubt about this, because so many republicon congress people are involved! bluestarone Jan 2024 #58
Is the DOJ going to charge these traitors. Emile Dec 2023 #36
My hunch is that Russian Ron moniss Dec 2023 #39
Sounds like a slam dunk for the doj. Autumn Dec 2023 #40
He's got The Wizard Dec 2023 #41
iN THE 1930'S soldierant Dec 2023 #42
This is the definition of white privilege BaronChocula Dec 2023 #43
Claiming that the brevity of his involvement diminishes his criminality is on a par with... Harker Dec 2023 #44
Expecting more damaging disclosures to change minds in MAGAworld... Thunderbeast Dec 2023 #45
Haha ... at least his lawyer admitted it. live love laugh Dec 2023 #48
Another Magat on Putin's payroll. n/t Evolve Dammit Dec 2023 #50
This was known by June 2022, maybe earlier. Wonder how Johnson has escaped Silent Type Dec 2023 #53
A few seconds my ass damifino10 Dec 2023 #54
However new evidence has implicated that Johnson was directly involved in Trump's fake electors scam. LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #59

elleng

(131,240 posts)
1. *the Republican Party when faced with a choice, chose to attack instead of defend democracy.'
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:39 AM
Dec 2023

Who will write the definitive book/history? Who will produce/write the movie?

Deuxcents

(16,380 posts)
2. I don't think it will be any time soon. There's too much we don't know yet.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:45 AM
Dec 2023

And what Jack Smith knows that we don’t will probably fill a few volumes

Deuxcents

(16,380 posts)
5. Well...when it does happen, it will be a shocking event
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:54 AM
Dec 2023

I think this era of tfg will be studied in law schools for many years. I hope it solidifies the country and a new appreciation for the constitution and the future of this country..something good has to eventually come of this.

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
4. When will all of these guys get removed from ballots?
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:52 AM
Dec 2023

There are plenty of these Republicans in Congress (both the House and the Senate). How is it that nobody is talking about their removal from ballots?

Deuxcents

(16,380 posts)
6. That's a good question..it will take someone from each state to make the call
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 01:57 AM
Dec 2023

Because I believe there were many who participated and are not being called out

Maraya1969

(22,508 posts)
38. I asked this before got no responses. How does one go about trying to get someone
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 03:49 PM
Dec 2023

off of the ballot in their state?

aggiesal

(8,940 posts)
16. The problem is that House & Senate (R)'s did what the Constitution allows ...
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 03:15 AM
Dec 2023

They contested the election and debated.
The House (D)'s did the same during the 2000 election.
But Al Gore, told the (D) Senators, not to sign on.

What Sen. Ron Johnson did, was not a part of the Constitution.
If Jack Smith has evidence of what the House & Senate (R)'s did that violated the Constitution and help in the insurrection, I'm confident he will file criminal charges.

That's how I see it. If I got anything wrong, feel free to correct me.

aggiesal

(8,940 posts)
35. I agree, where's the evidence? ...
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 11:47 AM
Dec 2023

The request for pardons is huge, because it shows that they knew they were committing crimes and they needed protections.

But unless Jack Smith et. al. have uncovered that evidence, they will say they were just following the constitution, by objecting to the votes.
The Secret Service destroying all that evidence makes it suspicious as well.
The Cover-Up is at a grand scale.

I'm hoping they get them all.

Response to applegrove (Original post)

usaf-vet

(6,227 posts)
19. Exactly!!! RoJo is in this up to his ears. And as others have pointed out he has he "own" jet. How convient!
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 04:34 AM
Dec 2023

To quote Shakespeare: “The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.”

In RoJo's case, the evil indeed started with the Scott Walker and the takeover of Wisconsin. That still exists today.


Ziggysmom

(3,427 posts)
9. Russian Ronnie is a worthless POS who married into money to gain power. Many similarities to
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 02:27 AM
Dec 2023

trumpty dumpty who inherited his $$$. Traitors and cheats hiding behind a wall of lawyers and family cash.

AllyCat

(16,239 posts)
10. Please get this man out of our public life, the Congress,
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 02:29 AM
Dec 2023

and into jail, never to be able to run for office again. To think, he “beat” our great Russ Feingold twice.

Our dumb, and complicit Senator

Hekate

(90,912 posts)
12. A friend of mine is reading Liz Cheney's book, & says the new Speaker of the House is everywhere in it...
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 02:46 AM
Dec 2023

My friend is going to loan it to me soon. Wonder what Liz says about Sen. Johnson as well…

Buckle your seatbelts — 2024 is going to be a bumpy ride.

applegrove

(118,865 posts)
14. It will be so traumatizing. My thoughts are with sentient
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 02:50 AM
Dec 2023

Americans and even the ones in the Trump cult who are being used terribly.

SoFlaBro

(1,986 posts)
15. Ronnie is Donnie's stinky diaper. Johnson is such a goddamn MAGA shitheel. He fucked up in supporting that bullshit.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 02:51 AM
Dec 2023

Tanuki

(14,926 posts)
17. Remember when RonJon faked talking on his cell phone
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 03:16 AM
Dec 2023

to avoid a reporter's questions about this crime?
🤣🤣🤣

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TheBlackAdder

(28,235 posts)
18. Kinda makes one wonder if Ron Johnson was onboard from the beginning or if other senators were asked first.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 04:10 AM
Dec 2023

How many senators were approached to do this and how many knew of this need?

Botany

(70,618 posts)
37. Russia installed Johnson in 2016 in Wisconsin.... Putin owns him.
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 11:54 AM
Dec 2023

Adam Schaffer called him out for giving Russian talking points on the House floor.

Botany

(70,618 posts)
57. The 2016 Wisconsin vote was loaded with Russian help and Russ Feingold was @ a .....
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 10:24 AM
Jan 2024

… 90% chance of winning too. Kind of like HRC winning the exit polls there in 2016. “Our liberal media”
spent its time on HRC’s emails and even till today they spend the majority of their time on Trump (and Ron
Johnson’s) base which is a minority of a minority of America’s population. Just like how w won 2000 & 2004 which they know was by cheating.

lastlib

(23,344 posts)
47. I suspect they want to get the Big Dog first...
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 06:45 PM
Dec 2023

then go after the pups....

(apologies to the Canidae family.....)

PCIntern

(25,612 posts)
23. One thing you have to say about this crowd,
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 08:30 AM
Dec 2023

They are extremely creative.

A great murder defense might be: it only took me a few seconds to withdraw the gun from its holster, aim, and pull the trigger, so I should be charged with a lesser crime.

I think a wonderful book which actually might be a best seller would be a fantasy novel/text wherein the thesis is what if the Republicans rewrote the constitution, and the laws which would arise therefrom. It would be both riotous and incredibly frightening.

bucolic_frolic

(43,393 posts)
31. I'm not aware of any Reconstruction Era insurrectionist being tossed from Federal office
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 11:11 AM
Dec 2023

Much of New Orleans politicians were tossed by the local Administrator of the US Army of occupation. About 13 of them, per the book "Klan War".

A US Senator was elected in South Carolina I think, and he was prevented from taking office.

But Congress didn't cleanse itself. They did pass laws over the ensuring 40 years to remove the disability of this or that group. But not to expel.

RandomNumbers

(17,608 posts)
32. Name of the PA Congressman: SCOTT PERRY
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 11:31 AM
Dec 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Perry_(politician)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Perry_(politician)#Involvement_in_attempts_to_overturn_the_2020_presidential_election

ETA: sorry, can't make the full links work

Anyway this scumbag needs to be replaced.

bluestarone

(17,091 posts)
34. I'm thinking Smith wants the BIG PRIZE first. THEN
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 11:39 AM
Dec 2023

It could take years to get the rest of the insurectionist's. But Smith is the man i want looking for them. When the BIG PRIZE has been taken down, the rest of the accomplices will start worrying and maybe making deals? I just hope somebody doesn't say stop this and let our country heal. THAT would piss me off for sure. We cannot let these people able to pull this shit again.

bluestarone

(17,091 posts)
58. I have no doubt about this, because so many republicon congress people are involved!
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 11:04 AM
Jan 2024

THIS is another law that is BULLSHIT! It protects a lot of monsters! (my opinion only) But it really is an unamerican law!

moniss

(4,274 posts)
39. My hunch is that Russian Ron
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 03:55 PM
Dec 2023

was to be the conduit to whoever was presiding. Remember that Pence had stated in his notes back in December that he was feeling he would not take his role because of "questions" etc. We know he says he consulted Quayle about it all. It is likely that he may have expressed similar things to others and that may have stoked the hope that they could pressure him to follow through and not preside. This is where the question of Grassley comes in.

A good possibility all along was that the plan was that the phony certifications would go to Grassley and he would take the ball from there. When it comes to snakes there is no bigger one in the Senate other than Grassley. If the USDA announced a bail-out program for corn that had turned brown and died you would see Chuckie out there in the field with a spray gun attached to a big tank of brown paint.

soldierant

(6,940 posts)
42. iN THE 1930'S
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 04:49 PM
Dec 2023

There were Senators (and Congressmen) in the 1930's who were Nazis and worked for Hitler. Much of it was using the ir privilege of the postal frank to mail Nazi literature to their constituents, but not all. See Rachel Maddow's "Ultra" podcast for a lot more detail. https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra

A hundred years later, given all the steps we have taken, both forward and back (way too many back) I don't know why we should think we are immune to that form of - I'll call it "tereachery"" since the way the Constitution defines treachery, it doesn't fit. But in my mind, the word is treason.

BaronChocula

(1,615 posts)
43. This is the definition of white privilege
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 05:36 PM
Dec 2023

Republicans lost, but thought they could just submit a list of electors they wanted (fake electors) and take the election. Not surprising.

Stay tuned for more of that insanity.

Harker

(14,064 posts)
44. Claiming that the brevity of his involvement diminishes his criminality is on a par with...
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 06:08 PM
Dec 2023

"I only drove the getaway car."



Thunderbeast

(3,425 posts)
45. Expecting more damaging disclosures to change minds in MAGAworld...
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 06:39 PM
Dec 2023

...is a futile effort.

Trump has animated the Tribal synapses in the amygdala (brain stem) of folks who respond in the same way the ignorant and selfish have responded since our ancestors were rodents hiding underground.

These feelings are "hard wired" and can only be overcome by a fully developed prefrontal cortex. MAGATS and other loathsome racists appear to be deficient in that brain development.

Trump has convinced them that HE ALONE will save them from brown people, liberals, inelectuals, gays, and electric car drivers. Trump knew, from reading Hitler and Goebels how to leverage human fears and insecurities into a powerful political movement. The playbook has been repeated throughout history.

There is no amount of evidence or rational conversation that will change their minds. HE hates the same people that they hate.

The only way to stop this madness is to show up at the polls next November and BURY MAGA in their own rhetoric. We must make MAGA nonsense irrelevant.

If you know someone who is on the fence or apathetic (I'm talking to YOU GEN X,Y,and Z), do whatever you need to do to get them engaged in the project to save democracy!

Silent Type

(3,007 posts)
53. This was known by June 2022, maybe earlier. Wonder how Johnson has escaped
Sun Dec 31, 2023, 10:43 PM
Dec 2023

charges, unless he’s “cooperating” and actually has something of value, or he has managed to convince prosecutors his involvement was minor and/or without knowledge of plan.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/21/jan-6-panel-trump-overturn-2020-election-00040816#:~:text=A%20top%20aide%20to%20Sen,6%2C%202021.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,722 posts)
59. However new evidence has implicated that Johnson was directly involved in Trump's fake electors scam.
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 04:31 PM
Jan 2024


Ron Johnson has spent years denying involvement in the plot to overturn the 2020 election!

However new evidence has implicated that Johnson was directly involved in Trump‘s fake electors scam.

In a recorded testimony of Chesebro before the prosecutors it appears that that Johnson of Wisconsin assisted in the effort to get the documents into Pence’s hands.

Johnson’s involvement is a reminder that the plot was masterminded and run by the Trump campaign, but the Republican Party when faced with a choice, chose to attack instead of defend democracy!

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