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John Fugelsang: I love days where Pope Francis enrages the fake Christians by acting like Jesus. (Original Post) highplainsdem Dec 2023 OP
Love it! MOMFUDSKI Dec 2023 #1
"no true scotsman" WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #2
"No true Christian" bluesbassman Dec 2023 #23
The Jesus they follow never blessed a sin, which is what, in their eyes, Pope Francis is doing. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2023 #24
They also approve of an adulterous lying criminal. bluesbassman Dec 2023 #26
Pope Francis has won my respect BlueKota Dec 2023 #3
Mine too soldierant Dec 2023 #4
So when is Francis scheduled to recognize that women are humans Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #5
He cannot. DenaliDemocrat Dec 2023 #9
Yeah, I know. The whole church is a fetid cesspool of male supremacy Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #14
They all suck. DenaliDemocrat Dec 2023 #18
CORRECT Skittles Dec 2023 #19
I mostly agree, but carve out a few rare exceptions, like Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #27
I don't think the complaint is about women being priests. 3Hotdogs Dec 2023 #21
I was pointing out that Sky Jewels Dec 2023 #25
Shout it Loud and Clear! EmmaLee E Dec 2023 #22
He had female disciples - lots of them. DenaliDemocrat Dec 2023 #28
The Pope is infallible... lame54 Dec 2023 #6
Only when speaking ex-cathedra DenaliDemocrat Dec 2023 #10
Not sure what Jesus would do, but Sneederbunk Dec 2023 #7
Jesus was a long-haired Jewish peacenik who threw money changers out of the temple IronLionZion Dec 2023 #8
That's why god made private jets. rubbersole Dec 2023 #17
How better.... SergeStorms Dec 2023 #20
A perfect Antagonist. earth2jim Dec 2023 #11
Viewing some of the Twitter comments... Pluvious Dec 2023 #12
There was a piece, I think it was either CNN or NBC website that conservative cardinals Boomerproud Dec 2023 #13
Ditto, but do they even UNDERSTAND? elleng Dec 2023 #15
I'm ALL for any religous leader who nudges their religion... 70sEraVet Dec 2023 #16
I'd love more those days when ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #29

MOMFUDSKI

(5,752 posts)
1. Love it!
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 12:19 PM
Dec 2023

But I am so tired of these self-appointed men making pronouncements about how one must conduct one’s life. Either way STFU

bluesbassman

(19,383 posts)
23. "No true Christian"
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:45 AM
Dec 2023

Read through the responses. It’s not Jesus those people follow. Paul maybe, but he was a Pharisee so you know what his theology was based upon.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,479 posts)
24. The Jesus they follow never blessed a sin, which is what, in their eyes, Pope Francis is doing.
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 12:00 PM
Dec 2023

(Also, few Christian non-Catholics give a shit about what any pope says and believe the Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon anyway, so.)

bluesbassman

(19,383 posts)
26. They also approve of an adulterous lying criminal.
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 12:55 PM
Dec 2023

I’m sorry, modern evangelical “christians” have no standing to tell anyone what is or is not a sin. They cherry pick verses from Scripture that confirms their ow political and social biases, while ignoring the core teaching of the “Lord” they claim to follow. It’s interesting that Jesus spoke often about people like modern evangelicals and had a word for them: Hypocrites.

soldierant

(6,942 posts)
4. Mine too
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 01:40 PM
Dec 2023

and I might note that, he was appointed by a large number of Cardinals. That doesn't make a difference to me - but I would iexpect it to make a differennce for those to whom appointment is important.

Sky Jewels

(7,187 posts)
5. So when is Francis scheduled to recognize that women are humans
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 02:10 PM
Dec 2023

who deserve bodily autonomy and equality in the church and in society? I'll not hold my breath.

I'll never understand why any liberal would continue to support the medieval male-supremacist Catholic Church.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,478 posts)
9. He cannot.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 02:49 PM
Dec 2023

No Pope has the authority to allow women clergy. That would be like asking when the President repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Sky Jewels

(7,187 posts)
14. Yeah, I know. The whole church is a fetid cesspool of male supremacy
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 04:00 PM
Dec 2023

and grifters who bring billions into the Vatican by pushing nonsensical patriarchal mythologies made up by people who didn't even know the Earth orbits the sun.

Like I said, I cannot understand why any liberal would continue to support this corrupt, women-hating institution.

Of course, there are plenty of other horrible misogynistic religious institutions worldwide, but this story involves the still ridiculously powerful Catholic Church specifically. And the RCC has conducted its reign of terror against women for many centuries.

Sky Jewels

(7,187 posts)
27. I mostly agree, but carve out a few rare exceptions, like
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 01:00 PM
Dec 2023

the Unitarian Church. From what I know from the outside, that organization seems more about building community and doing good works. You don't even have to buy into any supernatural nonsense to be accepted there. Many attendees are agnostics or atheists. But, yeah, overall, probably 98 percent of these institutions suck.

Sky Jewels

(7,187 posts)
25. I was pointing out that
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 12:19 PM
Dec 2023

the people heaping praise on Francis for being so liberal and enlightened are ignoring that he still heads a very powerful women-hating grifting institution that’s stuck in the Middle Ages.

EmmaLee E

(174 posts)
22. Shout it Loud and Clear!
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 11:40 AM
Dec 2023

Second class status.
So Christ had no female disciples? May I point out that he had no Europeans either.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,478 posts)
28. He had female disciples - lots of them.
Wed Dec 20, 2023, 09:24 PM
Dec 2023

He did not have female Apostles. The Catholic Church bases the priesthood on Apostolic Succession.

Sacred tradition among Catholics will never allow a female priesthood. No Pope can change that. It will never happen and I just shake my head at the people who try to say it will happen or petition. It’s never happening. My advice would be to change Churches.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,478 posts)
10. Only when speaking ex-cathedra
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 02:50 PM
Dec 2023

And only then on policy of Church dogma/doctrine.

Let’s tone down the misinformation here please.

IronLionZion

(45,611 posts)
8. Jesus was a long-haired Jewish peacenik who threw money changers out of the temple
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 02:38 PM
Dec 2023

Many RWers would deport him since they prefer smiting, wrath, and apparently opulent megachurches.

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
20. How better....
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 11:32 PM
Dec 2023

to rapidly collect continental collection plates?
They have to scoop that money up quickly, lest some local do-gooder decides to help the impoverished or some other outrageous act of christianity.
There are ecumenical investment portfolios to fatten, and crystal cathedrals to build, you know?

earth2jim

(7 posts)
11. A perfect Antagonist.
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 02:53 PM
Dec 2023

I'm not religious or Catholic, but I'm proud of the Pope. He is a perfect counter point to trump.

Pluvious

(4,329 posts)
12. Viewing some of the Twitter comments...
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 02:54 PM
Dec 2023

It’s impressive how tenacious he is in pushing back against all the hostile replies

Boomerproud

(7,975 posts)
13. There was a piece, I think it was either CNN or NBC website that conservative cardinals
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 03:23 PM
Dec 2023

are doing their best to undermine Francis. Lots of shenanigans going on...

70sEraVet

(3,529 posts)
16. I'm ALL for any religous leader who nudges their religion...
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 07:44 PM
Dec 2023

to be a little more accepting!
Blessed be the Boat-Rockers!!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
29. I'd love more those days when
Wed Dec 20, 2023, 09:35 PM
Dec 2023

christians stop lying that christians who behave badly are fake christians when there's no such thing.

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