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If Presidents have immunity, then why have they had pardons after leaving office, to avoid the law? (Original Post) Bluethroughu Dec 2023 OP
You mean why did Ford pardon Nixon? malaise Dec 2023 #1
I believe it became tradition for the Republican'ts Bluethroughu Dec 2023 #2
NO!!!! Nixon is the only former president who was pardoned. hedda_foil Dec 2023 #3
Ok...sorry, I thought Raygun was included in the Iran Contra pardons, Bluethroughu Dec 2023 #4
None of those criminals was ever held to account redqueen Dec 2023 #10
Ford should Rebl2 Dec 2023 #5
Well that reality won't help Slobby malaise Dec 2023 #6
If Trump ever goes to prison, Mr.Bill Dec 2023 #12
Chris Christie would follow party line. Bluethroughu Dec 2023 #15
I don't believe immunity should be legal, unless Bluethroughu Dec 2023 #9
I still wonder if Trump issued a blanket self pardon for himself... WarGamer Dec 2023 #7
I hope not, I hope that is not even legal! Bluethroughu Dec 2023 #8
He'd have to prove he did it while he POTUS unless there is a paper trail krawhitham Dec 2023 #14
Clarence Thomas wouldn't recuse himself Mr.Bill Dec 2023 #11
Easy, the person giving the pardon did know that POTUS was above the law. krawhitham Dec 2023 #13

Bluethroughu

(5,173 posts)
2. I believe it became tradition for the Republican'ts
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 04:14 PM
Dec 2023

to be Pardoned after leaving office, after tricky.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
3. NO!!!! Nixon is the only former president who was pardoned.
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 04:34 PM
Dec 2023

Please don't state guesses as facts. Not on DU. Never, never, NEVVVVERRRR!!!!!

Ok?

Bluethroughu

(5,173 posts)
4. Ok...sorry, I thought Raygun was included in the Iran Contra pardons,
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 07:03 PM
Dec 2023

and didn't Bush and Cheney want pardons for lying us into a war in Iraq.

It just seems an intitialment that most of the Republican party has zero shame throwing around .

I wasn't trying to be technical. I don't hear Democratic Administrations' talking about pardoning members of their party or Presidents after committing crimes.

Mr.Bill

(24,311 posts)
12. If Trump ever goes to prison,
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 08:56 PM
Dec 2023

he will only be there until the next republican president is sworn in. With the possible exception of Chris Christie.

Bluethroughu

(5,173 posts)
15. Chris Christie would follow party line.
Thu Dec 14, 2023, 03:43 PM
Dec 2023

He raised his hand early in the debates, when asked who would vote for rump if he was the nominee.

He's just wants to be President, not really govern...remember Bridge-gate.

Bluethroughu

(5,173 posts)
9. I don't believe immunity should be legal, unless
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 08:40 PM
Dec 2023

It was part of a Legislative, administrative or accidentally enforced because legal council allowed it and then they should be sanctioned.

WarGamer

(12,462 posts)
7. I still wonder if Trump issued a blanket self pardon for himself...
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 07:55 PM
Dec 2023

waiting if/when he's convicted in a Federal Court.

krawhitham

(4,645 posts)
14. He'd have to prove he did it while he POTUS unless there is a paper trail
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 09:01 PM
Dec 2023

Writing a get out of jail card on toilet paper from mar-a-lago will not work

krawhitham

(4,645 posts)
13. Easy, the person giving the pardon did know that POTUS was above the law.
Tue Dec 12, 2023, 08:57 PM
Dec 2023

I not saying POTUS is above the law, but Ford pardoning Nixon means nothing. It's just Ford thought Nixon would need a Pardon, he could have simply been wrong

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