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Donkees

(31,545 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:17 AM Dec 2023

Gaza experiencing "alarming levels" of hunger, UN agency warns

From CNN's Lindsay Isaac

In northern Gaza, 97% of households have inadequate food consumption and approximately 83% in southern Gaza are "adopting extreme consumption strategies" to survive as the Israel-Hamas war has caused "unimaginable loss, destruction and misery" in the strip, the United Nations World Food Programme (WFP) said Thursday

"Everyone in Gaza is hungry," WFP chief Cindy McCain warned on social media platform X, formerly called Twitter. She also reiterated support for the UN Secretary-General António Guterres' appeal for a humanitarian ceasefire.

In a report, the WFP said 9 out of 10 people in northern Gaza are going a full day and night without food consistently. CNN has reported on starving residents in Gaza digging for food, supplies under the rubble.



Palestinians line up for food in Rafah, Gaza, on November 30. Hatem Ali/AP

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-12-07-23/index.html
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Gaza experiencing "alarming levels" of hunger, UN agency warns (Original Post) Donkees Dec 2023 OP
That picture destroys my heart. cayugafalls Dec 2023 #1
General Discussion SYGDeb Dec 2023 #4
This is intentional starvation, not just war. N/T Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #10
Please, do not in any way confuse my empathy for anything other than empathy. cayugafalls Dec 2023 #14
Please accept my apology. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #18
Thank you. cayugafalls Dec 2023 #21
I just viewed a clip from Al Jazeera in which Gazans were accusing Hamas of stealing and hoarding humanitarian aid. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #2
Madaboutharry SYGDeb Dec 2023 #5
They are starving because Hamas wants them to starve. madaboutharry Dec 2023 #6
But instead Arab leaders are busy condemning Israel....not one of them has condemned Hamas. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #9
No, there is not enough food for 2.3 million people being delivered due to Israel restrictions. Big Blue Marble Dec 2023 #11
These terrorists will stop at nothing. nt GuppyGal Dec 2023 #8
Someone should let Hamas know. They could stop this war TODAY if they wanted to. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #3
Hamas' leadership goal is power and "respect" in the Arab world. haele Dec 2023 #7
Is it working? They certainly have "won the hearts" of many here * Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #12
It works as well as it did for the leaders of ISIL/Daesh, ect. haele Dec 2023 #13
They have not been well served by Hamas, their elected government. nt LexVegas Dec 2023 #15
There have been NO recent elections. WarGamer Dec 2023 #17
Talk to Hamas about that too. TheKentuckian Dec 2023 #19
Which is why one can not say "But the Palestinians voted for Hamas" WarGamer Dec 2023 #20
Some (not I) might comment, starvation is cheaper than bullets, 2000lb JDAM's and missiles. WarGamer Dec 2023 #16

cayugafalls

(5,672 posts)
14. Please, do not in any way confuse my empathy for anything other than empathy.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 08:25 PM
Dec 2023

I understand the daily.

There is no need to be explaining to me the results of this war.

Big Blue Marble

(5,159 posts)
18. Please accept my apology.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 08:41 PM
Dec 2023

As you may have guessed, I was responding to another poster.

I am sure my post was confusing. Sorry

madaboutharry

(40,248 posts)
2. I just viewed a clip from Al Jazeera in which Gazans were accusing Hamas of stealing and hoarding humanitarian aid.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:26 AM
Dec 2023

Hamas is intentionally keeping the humanitarian aid from reaching the people of Gaza so that the world will see photos exactly like the one posted in the OP.

madaboutharry

(40,248 posts)
6. They are starving because Hamas wants them to starve.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 11:14 AM
Dec 2023

This has always been the plan of Hamas, to bring unspeakable suffering to the Palestinian people in pursuit of their goal to wipe Israel off the map and kill every Israeli and Jew within their sight. Hamas believes that creating misery, anarchy, and destruction will enable them in achieving the dream of an extremist Islamic State.

It is terrible that people are suffering. Arab leaders must do all they can to stop Hamas from denying the people of Gaza the aid they need. The people of Gaza live under the tyranny of fanatics who are robbing them not only of their basic needs but are also robbing them of a future.

This war can stop by this afternoon. That decision rests with Hamas.

Big Blue Marble

(5,159 posts)
11. No, there is not enough food for 2.3 million people being delivered due to Israel restrictions.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 02:25 PM
Dec 2023

Hamas, of course, will steal what they can. That is not why the people are starving.

Before the war, it took 500 aid trucks a day to in the food and supplies necessary.
Now if 100 a day are allowed in, it's a lot. Distribution is a nightmare with bombing
now in the south. And most people have no place to cook or prepare foods.

Yesterday, the right-wing ministers including Smotrich were refusing to allow the
security to meet because they want to stop all humanitarian aid into Gaza.

Oopsie Daisy

(2,811 posts)
3. Someone should let Hamas know. They could stop this war TODAY if they wanted to.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 10:30 AM
Dec 2023

But, this is the war they WANTED. Hamas doesn't care about civilians, the young, the old, the sick. That's why they sockpiled weapons near/in/under hospitals and near/in/under schools. That's why they bivouac in and amongst civilians. It's always been about USING them as shields and propaganda. They calculated wrong.

I just wonder if it was all worth it to them. Looking back, what did they accomplish? Did they meet their goals and objectives?

haele

(12,702 posts)
7. Hamas' leadership goal is power and "respect" in the Arab world.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 01:57 PM
Dec 2023

Hamas' general members have no goal other than perhaps 3 hots and a cot, along with being told they're important for the cause. They're just disposable weapons for the leadership. If they had any real opportunity for a future, they wouldn't join Hamas.
Such is with all authoritarian organizations, especially criminal gangs when they are able to step into positions of power due to a vacuum in active governance. Keep the local citizenry stressed, in near poverty with little education, and you have plenty to harvest when you need raging human weapons for your ideological or klepto-political games.

Haele



Haele

Oopsie Daisy

(2,811 posts)
12. Is it working? They certainly have "won the hearts" of many here *
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 03:28 PM
Dec 2023

* in the US and elsewhere around the world. (ie: folks that make excuses for rape, gang-rape, sexual mutilation, and murder-WHILE-raping)

haele

(12,702 posts)
13. It works as well as it did for the leaders of ISIL/Daesh, ect.
Thu Dec 7, 2023, 05:37 PM
Dec 2023

What Hamas has done is nothing new in terms terrorist autocrats. Concurrent rape and murder were done in Ukraine, Myanmar, El Salvador, Chile, the old Soviet Union, Spain and Portugal during the Napoleonic Wars, all over Colonial Africa by several different European nations, France during the 14th/15th century Hundred Years wars and has been reported happening far back in history. Armies did it when they sacked citied and towns. Mercenary and slaver gangs raped and murdered when they would sweep through areas to pacify the locals as they looted and kidnapped what they could. The only difference between back then and now is the real-time viewership through Social Media. Now most civilized people can't pretend it doesn't happen, like they did in all the other countries I mentioned, because Hamas did it out in the open against a country with close ties to the US.

Hamas didn't invent what they did on October 7th. Their leadership knew full well what the outcome would be, and yes. It's worked out well for them. They get to cause chaos in the Western World, get more street cred amongst the Arab Hegemony groups as well as other anti-West regimes, and they gave hard-right non-Islamists a reason to ramp up lesser forms of atrocities against them to juice up the marketing of their particular criminal brand and recruiting. Its working out very well for the leadership of Hamas, and anyone who benefits politically from the escalation of conflict they're provoking.

I'm not saying don't go after Hamas. What I'm saying is understand why they did what they did. And don't give them the messy "kill them all and let God sort them out" recruiting plan they're counting on getting, or we all sit by and let Israel become the monster it is fighting. There are ways to destroy a snake, but starting from the tail doesn't work.

Haele

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