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Liz Cheney's Old Man (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 OP
Only 1 Congressional House member voted against going into Iraq, gab13by13 Dec 2023 #1
Please read history Bucky Dec 2023 #3
The 1st vote was in 2001, gab13by13 Dec 2023 #4
MAGAT means NAZI Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #7
Everyone I disagree with belongs in prison Bucky Dec 2023 #2
so it was all just an honest mistake. ok. ret5hd Dec 2023 #5
I dunno. I still like Democracy. Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #8
Yup, he's Darth Vader. She's not. Joinfortmill Dec 2023 #6
"Do the orders still stand?" Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #10
Thanks Kid. nt Hotler Dec 2023 #9
You are most welcome, Hotler! Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #12
I definitely got excited with the Lockheed Martin commercials back in the day MagickMuffin Dec 2023 #11
Dick Cheney practically privatized modern warmongering. Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #13

gab13by13

(21,439 posts)
1. Only 1 Congressional House member voted against going into Iraq,
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 09:33 AM
Dec 2023

Barbara Lee.

The Republican party is dead, we need to move on to fight the more dangerous Magat party.

gab13by13

(21,439 posts)
4. The 1st vote was in 2001,
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 09:52 AM
Dec 2023

ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AFTER the 9/11 attack, while bodies were still buried in the rubble, George W. Bush demanded from Congress the legal authorization to use military force against those responsible for the attack, which everyone understood would start with an invasion of Afghanistan. The resulting resolution that was immediately cooked up was both vague and broad, providing that “the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons.”

Despite this broadness, or because of it, the House of Representatives on September 14 approved the resolution by a vote of 420-1. The Senate approved it the same day by a vote of 98-0. The lone dissenting vote was Democratic Rep. Barbara Lee of California, who — three days after the 9/11 attack, in a climate of virtually full-scale homogeneity — not only voted “no” but stood up on the House floor to deliver this eloquent, unflinching and, as it turns out, extremely prescient explanation for her opposition:

The Intercept.

Kid Berwyn

(14,991 posts)
7. MAGAT means NAZI
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 10:35 AM
Dec 2023

A continuous and direct line of evil going from Hitler learning how to apply Americans "science" of eugenics to the "Untermenschen" to the rise of Trump and the "ultrarich" to capture American politics.





Kid Berwyn

(14,991 posts)
8. I dunno. I still like Democracy.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 10:40 AM
Dec 2023

Something else I know is I don't like America getting lied into war by the organ grinder Dick Cheney.

What National Security counterterrorism chief Richard A. Clarke said, in regards to Sneer's monkey, George W Bush:

"Basically, the president botched the response to 9/11. He should have gone right after Afghanistan, right after bin Laden. And then he made the whole war on terrorism so much worse by invading Iraq," he told ABC's "Good Morning America."

"I think we could have had a good chance to get bin Laden, to get the leadership and wipe the whole organization out if we had gone in immediately and gone after him."

Instead, Clarke said, Bush has "inflamed the Arab world and created a whole new generation of al Qaeda terrorists."

He added, "U.S. soldiers went to their deaths in Iraq thinking that they were avenging 9/11 when Iraq had nothing do with it."

In a meeting on September 12, 2001, "The president, in a very intimidating way, left us, me and my staff, with the clear indication that he wanted us to come back with the word that there was an Iraqi hand behind 9/11 because they had been planning to do something about Iraq from before the time they came into office," Clarke said.


Source: https://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/22/bush.clarke/




Kid Berwyn

(14,991 posts)
10. "Do the orders still stand?"
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 11:15 AM
Dec 2023
9/11 report testimony altered to hide Cheney role in Pentagon hit

Details: https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/9-11-report-testimony-altered-to-hide-cheney-roll-in-pentagon-hit/article/425008

Cheney and Bush never testified separately or under oath about their roles in 9-11.

MagickMuffin

(15,962 posts)
11. I definitely got excited with the Lockheed Martin commercials back in the day
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 01:01 PM
Dec 2023

Last edited Tue Dec 5, 2023, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)


I was like if the media conglomerates were airing commercials for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon then what equipment could I afford.

Airing those commercials was their way of selling us a load of propaganda.


Kid Berwyn

(14,991 posts)
13. Dick Cheney practically privatized modern warmongering.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 04:34 PM
Dec 2023
Cheney's Multi-Million Dollar Revolving Door

News: As Bush Sr.'s secretary of defense, Dick Cheney steered millions of dollars in government business to a private military contractor -- whose parent company just happened to give him a high-paying job after he left the government.


By Robert Bryce
Mother Jones
August 2, 2000

EXCERPT...

In 1992, the Pentagon, then under Cheney's direction, paid Texas-based Brown & Root Services $3.9 million to produce a classified report detailing how private companies -- like itself -- could help provide logistics for American troops in potential war zones around the world. BRS specializes in such work; from 1962 to 1972, for instance, the company worked in the former South Vietnam building roads, landing strips, harbors, and military bases. Later in 1992, the Pentagon gave the company an additional $5 million to update its report. That same year, BRS won a massive, five-year logistics contract from the US Army Corps of Engineers to work alongside American GIs in places like Zaire, Haiti, Somalia, Kosovo, the Balkans, and Saudi Arabia.

After Bill Clinton's election cost Cheney his government job, he wound up in 1995 as CEO of Halliburton Company, the Dallas-based oil services giant -- which just happens to own Brown & Root Services. Since then, Cheney has collected more than $10 million in salary and stock payments from the company. In addition, he is currently the company's largest individual shareholder, holding stock and options worth another $40 million. Those holdings have undoubtedly been made more valuable by the ever-more lucrative contracts BRS continues to score with the Pentagon.

Between 1992 and 1999, the Pentagon paid BRS more than $1.2 billion for its work in trouble spots around the globe. In May of 1999, the US Army Corps of Engineers re-enlisted the company's help in the Balkans, giving it a new five-year contract worth $731 million.

SNIP...

Although the US military has long relied on contractors for various services, the issue for some observers is the possibility that Cheney used his contacts within government to enrich himself. “We are talking about nepotism of the highest order and profiteering at the expense of the US taxpayers,” says Pratap Chatterjee, a radio journalist who has followed Halliburton for several years.

Chatterjee points out that BRS gets a one percent profit guarantee on their logistics contracts and that in Somalia, the company was given another eight percentage points for meeting various incentive clauses in their contract. “Compare that with average corporate profit percentages, which are about three percent,” he said.

CONTINUED...

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2000/08/cheney.html
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