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LuckyCharms

(17,537 posts)
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:01 PM Nov 2023

Nazi Germany existed roughly from 1933 to 1945.

There are holocaust survivors that are still alive to this day.

This didn't occur during some ancient biblical period.

Trump will not be elected again, in my opinion.

However, based on current polls, and based on the relative silence concerning Trump's plans on network (non-cable) media, there is a greater than zero chance that he could get elected again. It's far too early to know for sure of course. With Trump's "vermin" comments, there needs to be a concerted effort on the part on non-cable media to scream history from the rooftops.

He already killed via Covid maleficence. I believe this was by design.

He will have nothing stopping him if he gets elected.

I consider Trump, Stephen Miller, Bannon, and multiple other people to be a severe risk to this nation's future.

I don't know how to address this,. However, someone much smarter than me, including President Biden, needs to give this country a prime time, non-cable history lesson, and this lesson needs to be repeated often, and with great force.

When I talk to people in my personal life about this, I get laughed at.

I believe Trump is actually insane. I believe he has a detailed agenda in his own mind. I believe it is possible (but not likely) that he will be elected as POTUS in 2024.

A few years ago, saying someone will go "full Hitler" might have been a joke.

It's not a joke anymore.

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Nazi Germany existed roughly from 1933 to 1945. (Original Post) LuckyCharms Nov 2023 OP
History has a way of repeating itself. Emile Nov 2023 #1
I grew up watching Sound of Music and Cabaret, so I really expected the rise of fascism to have more show tunes. marble falls Nov 2023 #2
I grew up watching Bedknobs and Broomsticks SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2023 #3
"She later went on to solve murder mysteries on a weekly basis. " Only after she turned her ... marble falls Nov 2023 #19
Trump's just a figurehead. haele Nov 2023 #4
Well Said DENVERPOPS Nov 2023 #13
Trump has done more than detailed his agenda "in his mind" nikatnyte Nov 2023 #5
Supposedly Trump's people encouraged RFK Jr. to run as a chaos candidate IronLionZion Nov 2023 #6
Proportionally, tRump killed more magats with Covid than other groups. "By design"? Nope. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #7
My concern is that there are strong aspects to the economy NOW & while I think that polling is themaguffin Nov 2023 #8
You are spot on to say so many in USA need a history lesson re how fascism creeps in Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2023 #9
good summary DENVERPOPS Nov 2023 #15
The Holocaust was an horrendous crime, it's NOT at GET OUT OF JAIL CARD Model35mech Nov 2023 #10
Trouble is they said Hitler wouldn't get in, and that Hindenburg had limited his power. bucolic_frolic Nov 2023 #11
No, it's not a joke anymore. lees1975 Nov 2023 #12
Trump does not need his Reich to last much longer Turbineguy Nov 2023 #14
Given the attention span of the average Foxsuckers I have met DFW Nov 2023 #16
You left out Roger Stone. TFG is Roger Stone's wet dream. ffr Nov 2023 #17
I was watching some you tube videos of the good liars and TYT and his followers are stupid and insane kimbutgar Nov 2023 #18

marble falls

(58,584 posts)
2. I grew up watching Sound of Music and Cabaret, so I really expected the rise of fascism to have more show tunes.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:06 PM
Nov 2023

SocialDemocrat61

(811 posts)
3. I grew up watching Bedknobs and Broomsticks
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 02:49 PM
Nov 2023

where a middle age witch defeats the Nazis with magic.

She later went on to solve murder mysteries on a weekly basis.

marble falls

(58,584 posts)
19. "She later went on to solve murder mysteries on a weekly basis. " Only after she turned her ...
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 05:32 PM
Nov 2023

... mentally damaged son into the Manchurian Candidate.

haele

(12,745 posts)
4. Trump's just a figurehead.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:04 PM
Nov 2023

There's a lot of money going into electing someone capable of being a demogoge they can hide behind, just as Putin started out as a front for old Soviet party chairs/mobsters turned oligarchs.

There's a huge push amongst the Libertarian wealthy elite for either a White Christian or white Technocrat rule, because, their very wealthy proves they're the smartest, or most favored by Gawd, so they should be in charge.
Run this country like their businesses, and everyone that's worth anything will fall in line. The rest are just useless losers.
As for their fellow travelers, the Dominionist, they made their plans known back in the 1990's. But they were just considered silly crackpots or a "good but misguided minority".

And finally the Libertarians assholes/Technocrats own most of the major media as well as our online social networks. There's a vested interest in keeping that curtain drawn around the group of men manipulating the figureheads.

Haele

nikatnyte

(249 posts)
5. Trump has done more than detailed his agenda "in his mind"
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:48 PM
Nov 2023

He comes right out and tells us, almost every day. Hard to believe, but I think what he's really after is even worse. He wants to execute everyone who doesn't think he's the supreme being.

IronLionZion

(45,860 posts)
6. Supposedly Trump's people encouraged RFK Jr. to run as a chaos candidate
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 03:50 PM
Nov 2023

so weird things can happen in a 3 way race in some close swing states. An uncomfortable amount of Americans are open to Nazi ideology.

themaguffin

(3,840 posts)
8. My concern is that there are strong aspects to the economy NOW & while I think that polling is
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:04 PM
Nov 2023

proven to be inconsistent, off or as we saw in 2020, also filled with right wing polls... there is legit concern and unhappiness with a lot of people with the economy. A lot of it is inflation... but the unemployment rate is at its lowest in decades. GPD is great...
Biden doesn't seem to be benefitting from this...

but if anything goes south in the next year, he will suffer from it. A year is a loooong time.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,292 posts)
9. You are spot on to say so many in USA need a history lesson re how fascism creeps in
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:07 PM
Nov 2023

First, extreme views are normalized.

Then certain groups of people are declared vermin. Use this as a way to generate outrage in the Right Wing Authoritarian Followers (magats). Use that base as a solid dependable voting block.

Next, fracture the opposition or control parts of it in various ways.

With a solid base, become the single largest political unit or the most powerful, even if a minority because the opposition is split.

Get just enough support from wobbly third parties and groups to get operational power.

Use power to get more power, reducing limits steadily. Squeeze until there is no effective opposition. Torture. Extra-judicial killings. Violent militias.

Rule with an iron fist.

DENVERPOPS

(9,096 posts)
15. good summary
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:44 PM
Nov 2023

Who was it who said: When Fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible...........

WASF

Model35mech

(1,739 posts)
10. The Holocaust was an horrendous crime, it's NOT at GET OUT OF JAIL CARD
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:14 PM
Nov 2023

Western nations really did feel terrible about the calamity for Jews, Homosexuals, Gypsies etc. conducted by the Nazis.

In an attempt at reparations, resistance to Zionism fell away.

Now that we have been educated to being woke, we are capable of understanding that solution created problems which upon waking means being able to understand others' sense of injustice.

Being unable to see the injustice others feel is a privilege problem.



bucolic_frolic

(43,954 posts)
11. Trouble is they said Hitler wouldn't get in, and that Hindenburg had limited his power.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:25 PM
Nov 2023

Dictators aren't restrained by the existing or historical political constraints. They find a hole and worm their way in. Bolsheviks did it too. While the left and the right and the military and Cossacks and the Whites and Kerensky fiddled and couldn't decide what to do, Lenin and Trotsky cranked up a propaganda machine, put lies in the mouths of competing parties, sought help from loyal factions, and stormed the Winter Palace. Resistance folded. We'll be fighting this battle until the Right is defeated. It won't end with Trump. The Federalists and Libertarians and Bannons will march on.

lees1975

(4,028 posts)
12. No, it's not a joke anymore.
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:29 PM
Nov 2023

But people are too shallow and too lacking in education about facism and the Nazis and the Second World War to grasp what is happening.

Turbineguy

(37,535 posts)
14. Trump does not need his Reich to last much longer
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:42 PM
Nov 2023

although some of his braindead supporters want it to be a family dynasty.

DFW

(54,801 posts)
16. Given the attention span of the average Foxsuckers I have met
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:48 PM
Nov 2023

If Joe Biden were to invite them personally to the White House for lunch and a history lesson, they wouldn't remember a word he told them an hour later.

kimbutgar

(21,429 posts)
18. I was watching some you tube videos of the good liars and TYT and his followers are stupid and insane
Mon Nov 13, 2023, 04:56 PM
Nov 2023

Greatest president ever! Done more than any other president in our country’s history! A real Christian leader who Jesus talks to!

After watching a few of these videos I got depressed so many people are so dumb, brainwashed and dangerous.

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