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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAtheism and anarchy didn't kill Jesus, Mike Johnson
People like you did.
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calimary
(81,566 posts)everyonematters
(3,435 posts)lame54
(35,343 posts)Isn't that the whole point?
Mosby
(16,405 posts)Didn't Jesus "die" so people could be free of sin? But he didn't really die.
spike jones
(1,691 posts)Warpy
(111,423 posts)If he was a man, it was what the bluenoses always try to do to the rest of us who don't quite fit their narrow and pinched idea of what other people should be like so the bluenoses won't be tempted to sin by the rest of us.
In any case, the Romans did the actual deed because they were sick of constantly dealing with the bluenoses and their complaints about the guy.
None of it made any sense at all to me and I was deeply unimpressed by the "it's a mystery, you need to have faith" argument of last resort. So I left.
patphil
(6,241 posts)And so they can do whatever they want to whomever they want.
Chainfire
(17,728 posts)NowISeetheLight
(3,943 posts)That pretty much sums up the whole Christian Taliban RepubQcan Nationalist party
KS Toronado
(17,435 posts)ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Before those people existed, Susan B Anthony made this observation:
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,406 posts)It's about as bad as saying the Roman Empire fell because of immorality. Christianity had become the state religion by the time the (western) Roman Empire fell.
EX500rider
(10,885 posts)No, the Religio Romana and Roman Centurions killed him. Actual cause of death I assume would be from blood loss.
orangecrush
(19,661 posts)Perhaps you missed the spirit of the op, but point (not of spear) taken!
Model35mech
(1,593 posts)I thought he was a High Priest for the Temple in Jerusalem
EX500rider
(10,885 posts)...and presided over the Sanhedrin trial of Jesus.
(the accusations: violating the Sabbath law (by healing on the Sabbath); threatening to destroy the Jewish Temple; practicing sorcery, exorcising people by the power of demons; and claiming to be the Messiah)
But prior to the trial before Pontius Pilate.
localroger
(3,634 posts)...in Jesus' case they were doing it largely as a courtesy to the local officials under aegis of their own (in this case mostly religious) laws. This is why the Jews rather than the Romans got the blame for being Christ-killers.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)That's the story as told by the later Gospels.
The reality of the matter is there two major Jewish revolts against the Roman Empire in the first and second centuries, and the early Christians kinda sorta sided with Rome.
yagotme
(3,018 posts)Being suspended, with your arms out, and your feet nailed to the post, it doesn't allow the body to take a deep breath. You have to lift yourself up slightly to breathe, and after awhile, you tire, and you get less and less air, until you pass out, and die of asphyxiation. The breaking of the legs (on the other 2) was to speed up the process, because of the strange events that were occurring. The spear was to ensure death had occurred. Or so I've been told in the past.
Martin Eden
(12,882 posts)The only things that separate Mike Johnson and his ilk from the Taliban in Afghanistan are wealth and privilege.
Don't doubt they will use violence to enforce their rule if they sieze enough power.