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applegrove

(119,087 posts)
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 02:40 AM Oct 2023

This just proves improving mental health checks and getting warnings of plans for violence are

useless unless you take the AR 15 out of the equation. Warnings are almost useless.

Police Were Warned Last Month About Maine Shooter’s Threats: 'There Were Warning Signs'

Police Were Warned Last Month About Maine Shooter’s Threats: 'There Were Warning Signs'
Police across Maine were alerted just last month about “veiled threats” by the man who authorities say would go on to carry out the worst mass shooting in the state’s history.
Bernard Condon and Jim Mustian

Oct 28, 2023, 05:58 PM EDT

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/maine-shooting-warning-signs-last-month_n_653d828be4b0a78a26a35259

"SNIP.........

Police across Maine were alerted just last month to “veiled threats” by the U.S. Army reservist who would go on to carry out the worst mass shooting in the state’s history, one of a string of missed red flags that preceded the massacre.

Two local law enforcement chiefs told The Associated Press that a statewide awareness alert was sent in mid-September to be on the lookout for Robert Card after the firearms instructor made threats against his base and fellow soldiers. But after stepped-up patrols of the base and a visit to Card’s home – neither of which turned up any sign of him – they moved on.

“We added extra patrols, we did that for about two weeks. ... The guy never showed up,” said Jack Clements, the police chief in Saco, home to the U.S. Army Reserve base where Card trained.

Sagadahoc County Sheriff Joel Merry, whose jurisdiction includes Card’s home in Bowdoin, said the Army Reserve tipped his department in September to the reservist’s threats, and the sheriff sent the awareness alert to every law enforcement agency in the state after his deputy came back empty-handed from a welfare check to Card’s home.

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This just proves improving mental health checks and getting warnings of plans for violence are (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2023 OP
You want F-ed up? usonian Oct 2023 #1
Maine doesn't have a Red Flag law Kaleva Oct 2023 #3
Police aren't set up to take preventative action. Aussie105 Oct 2023 #2

usonian

(10,081 posts)
1. You want F-ed up?
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 03:23 AM
Oct 2023

Didn't one or more courts say that you can't confiscate weapons even from a domestic abuser?

Police will take your dope, run over your kid, and kill you for holding up a salami sandwich, but they can't lock up your WOMD when there have been credible complaints?

Shut down all the donut shops!

Kaleva

(36,457 posts)
3. Maine doesn't have a Red Flag law
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 05:49 AM
Oct 2023

It's a gun friendly state

That may change after this but I doubt it

Aussie105

(5,544 posts)
2. Police aren't set up to take preventative action.
Sun Oct 29, 2023, 04:30 AM
Oct 2023

A welfare check is the best they will do, and even that can be very perfunctory.

Mental health checks, social work, etc - not in their training.

Once the shooting start though, they go to full alert in a millisecond.

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