All Communication & internet completely cut off in Gaza

[womanofthehills]

No one can call ambulances, contact anyone.

“Tedros of WHO cannot contact his staff. “

“We have lost touch with our staff in Gaza, with health facilities, health workers and the rest of our humanitarian partners on the ground.

This siege makes me gravely concerned for their safety and the immediate health risks of vulnerable patients.

We urge immediate protection of all civilians and full humanitarian access.”
https://x.com/drtedros/status/1717989993577173013?s=46&t=YZgyyp4w_z7vW3neKxa6cQ

[msongs]

1. surely this must be an accident right? nt

[claudette]

2. And the

brutal revenge intensifies. Israel may hope this will “eradicate” Hamas when all this really does is plant the seed of hatred in those who will replace them. 🥲

[brooklynite]

5. ...which assumes the hatred wasn't there to begin with?

Question: has any Palestinian entity called for a Two-State solution to the crisis?

[claudette]

7. Not at all

But the young children who have no hatred will now see their innocent loved ones die and have lives through this cruelty so their feelings might change.

You’ve changed the subject. The top post is about the brutal attack on innocents to get rid of Hamas

[brooklynite]

12. Is that before or after they went to schools where Hamas taught them hated of Israel?

https://forward.com/opinion/566841/hamas-schools-indoctrination-antisemitic-textbooks-gaza/

A 2013 New York Times article said that Gaza schools run by Hamas and the U.N. both use the Palestinian Authority curriculum that is also taught throughout the West Bank, but that “Hamas has added programs, like a military training elective” and other teachings to “infuse the next generation with its militant ideology.”

This curriculum “includes references to the Jewish Torah and Talmud as ‘fabricated,’” the Times reported, and a description of Zionism as a racist movement whose goals include driving Arabs out of the entire area between the Nile in Africa and the Euphrates in Iraq, Syria and Turkey.”

This is a curriculum designed to indoctrinate and radicalize its students in support of Hamas’ terrorist aims.

Even the comparatively moderate Palestinian Authority textbooks are problematic. In 2020, the European Union’s Parliament adopted three resolutions condemning the authority “for continuing to teach hate and violence in its school textbooks,” following a study confirming incitement in the curriculum. To teach physics, a textbook showed students “a picture of Palestinians hitting Israeli soldiers with slingshots,” the study found, while another “promotes a conspiracy theory that Israel removed the original stones of ancient sites in Jerusalem and replaced them with ones bearing Zionist drawings and shapes.”

(written by former Democratic Congressman Steve Israel)

[claudette]

14. Oh please

Spare us the propaganda. I don’t believe that most Palestinians want to kill Israelis knowing what will happen to them when Israel uses American supplied deadly weapons to destroy and kill even those who did not participate in an attack on Israel.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

18. A Democratic congressman is spreading propaganda?

Really?

[Cha]

19. "Propaganda" is the Fucking Butchers of HAMAS teaching HATE.

[brooklynite]

22. "Want to kill Israelis"? No. "Want Israel to disappear from (geographic) Palestine"? Yes

[Maru Kitteh]

55. There you go again, falling for terrorist propaganda and taking their word

over your, and everyone else's lying eyes. Hamas is the elected government of Gaza. Hamas controls what children are taught much as the Christofascists would control American schools. Hamas teaches children hate and they do it with the assistance of their many handmaidens in Gaza - the teachers, the administrators, the public officials, the clerics, their media, their "news," etc., etc., and so on.

[Butterflylady]

65. Hate towards Israel and the Jewish people

Has been around centuries. You can trace it back to the crusades. They're taught it since birth.

Kind of like the maggots that are taught from birth to hate all democrats.

[NutmegYankee]

6. Their parents/grandparents already did that

Very few people in Gaza were alive in 1948. This desire to destroy Israel and the pigheadedness to choose to go with the three Noes of Khartoum instead of seek peaceful coexistence is why this is happening.

[claudette]

9. Keep

Telling yourself that if it makes you comfortable

[NutmegYankee]

13. I didn't see too many 90- year-olds with Go Pro cameras lighting babies on fire.

These are kids who came up through the Oslo Accords era.

[womanofthehills]

3. Gaza Internet and Cell Service Cut Off as Israeli Airstrikes Build

Internet and cell service have been cut off in the Gaza Strip as Israeli airstrikes intensify on the besieged territory, where more than 7,000 Palestinians have reportedly been killed since the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas militants.

News outlets and on-the-ground aid groups reported on Friday that their communications with individuals within Gaza have been severed, and the 2.3 million people who live there are now left in a near-complete digital blackout. Jawal and Paltel, Palestine’s largest internet service providers, said Friday that service had collapsed due to Israel’s bombardment of the region, which has intensified in the last 24 hours. “The intense bombing in the last hour caused the destruction of all remaining international routes linking Gaza to the outside world,” Paltel wrote in a statement. https://news.yahoo.com/gaza-internet-cell-cut-off-203531860.html

[LexVegas]

4. Sounds like a consequence of waging war. nt

[Mossfern]

8. From where was he posting that?

Has Israel claimed that they cut off communications?
Are IDF forces communicating by walkie talkies?

I'm just asking, not denying.

As we have seen regarding the "IDF bombing of the hospital," I'm awaiting credible sources.

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. Fucking hell, the Director General of the WHO is not a "credible source" to you?

Who are you waiting for, Dr. Fauci?

This has been in the news for a few hours, by the way.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-middle-east-67223217
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/oct/27/israel-hamas-war-live-us-strikes-iran-linked-targets-in-syria-eu-calls-for-humanitarian-pauses-in-gaza

[Mossfern]

15. I don't doubt that it has occurred

I just would like to know for sure who was responsible. The IDF usually admits when and what they strike.
No need to pounce on me.

[womanofthehills]

16. Gaza communications cut off as Israel 'expands' ground operations

AP. https://www.irishnews.com/news/worldnews/2023/10/27/news/gaza_communications_cut_off_as_israel_expands_ground_operations-3734785/

“Israel no has knocked out communications in the Gaza Strip in intensified attacks, largely cutting off its 2.3 million people from contact with each other and the outside world, as the military said it was “expanding” ground operations in the territory.

The military’s announcement signalled it was moving closer to an all-out invasion of Gaza, where it has vowed to crush the ruling Hamas militant group after its incursion in southern Israel three weeks ago.”

NBC now covering it
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/near-total-internet-blackout-hits-gaza-as-israel-ramps-up-strikes/ar-AA1iXIjk

[womanofthehills]

10. Sounds like ground forces going in

I feel sick…..,
From HuffPo
Israeli military spokesman, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, said ground forces were “expanding their activity” in Gaza and that it “is acting with great force ... to achieve the objectives of the war.”

“I ring the alarm bell. There is imminent danger hovering above the medical facility” and those in it, Moussa said. The hospital has been overwhelmed by thousands of patients and wounded, and around 40,000 displaced Gaza residents have crowded in and around its grounds for shelter, the U.N. says.

About 1.4 million people in Gaza have fled their homes, with nearly half of them crowding into U.N. shelters. Hundreds of thousands remain in northern Gaza, despite Israel ordering them to evacuate to the south and saying that those who remain might be considered “accomplices” of Hamas.

The Palestinian death toll in Gaza has soared past 7,300, according to officials there. A blockade on Gaza has meant dwindling supplies of food, fuel, water and medicine, and the U.N. warned that its aid operation helping hundreds of thousands of people was “crumbling” amid near-depleted fuel. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/internet-and-phone-services-collapse-in-gaza-as-israel-expands-ground-assault/ar-AA1iXYyX

[claudette]

17. Seems like

Israel is intent on total extermination - as was recently mentioned here as what Israel’s goal should be.

[Mossfern]

20. Really?

Can you link a post where someone called for extermination of Palestinians?

[claudette]

21. You can

use the search feature yourself. I prefer not to read it again.

[Mossfern]

23. When people make assertions

it's up to them to provide proof, not up to the person questioning the assertion.
That's the logical way these things go.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. Nobody here has called for the extermination of the Palestinian people,

there have been calls for the extermination of Hamas, big difference and your refusal to provide a link is very telling.

[dembotoz]

29. here maybe but nutty yahoo and his thugs are not pushing for peach

[AntiFascist]

35. You should watch some of the latest reporting on BBC...

an extremist national security minister Itaman Ben-Gvir passing out American-made assault rifles to civilian volunteers. Ben-Gvir wants to destroy Palestinian hopes for independence.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

39. I'm talking about members here on this site,

poster alluded to just that and when asked to provide a link, it was refused.

And what difference does it make where the rifles came from?
You are aware that the Chinese, Iranians, and other nations manufacture US designed rifles aren't you?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

26. Of course all comms were disrupted,

that's called disrupting the enemies command and control, which is essential to prevent the enemy from being able to coordinate attacks.

[Zeitghost]

30. Yep

Only Israel is expected to supply their enemies with free Wi-Fi.

[EllieBC]

62. And fuel that they can use for their weapons.

No other country (well, maybe the US) would have such demands made of them.

[JohnSJ]

34. That is what happen when there is a war

[Alpeduez21]

27. The only information about this conflict

Will now be told by Israel.

We can trust them why would they lie?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. As opposed to Hamas?

[Alpeduez21]

32. As opposed to fucking reporters on the ground

or hospital employees talking about life under siege. As opposed to seeing dead children under building Israel has bombed. As opposed to INNOCENT Palestinians.

Hamas is a TERRORIST organization. You seem quite comfortable using a terrorist organization as the bar for moral behavior. I'm not really in favor of such a low bar. I'll try and keep the innocent in mind. Many of the innocents are Muslim and we in the west love to equate all of them as terrorist and therefore, anything goes. Pretty pathetic thinking in my opinion.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

37. Well, ya know if Hamas hadn't viciously attacked Israel and murdered, raped, desecrated,

kidnapped, and so on and so forth, then there wouldn't have been an attack by Israel.

[Alpeduez21]

49. It seems like you think ANY criticism

is a bona fide for Hamas. I guess if a group does something deemed horrible the whole of the territory they reside is open for slaughter. Something terrible happened in Lewiston ME perhaps we should burn it down otherwise we support mass shooters.

Saying I wish to protect innocent bystanders IS NOT saying Israel has no right or reason to go after Hamas. Since Hamas escalated this conflict a couple weeks ago it seems those of us wishing to keep innocents safe are deemed Hamas sympathizers. I just wish those who wish to see all Palestinians harmed could see how Islamaphobic that seems.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

52. Show me where anywhere in my posts I called or even alluded to you being a Hamas supporter. nt

[Alpeduez21]

56. perhaps that was a little strong but still logical. You allude to calling me Hamas supporter with every response.

Any criticism of Israel is responded by you saying 'but Hamas,.....' and then you point out atrocities committed by Hamas. Do you repeat that mantra because if you don't I will naturally think Israel is the only bad party in this? I do know you feel the need to use Hamas as the moral compass of this conflict because you defend anything Israel does with that barometer. I suppose England should have blown Ireland off the map because of Sinn Fein. England sent 6,000 bombs to Dublin because Sinn Fein set off a bomb in London.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

57. Just because I support Israel and condemn Hamas and point out the atrocities they committed

on Oct. 7th in my replies to you in no way even comes close to accusing or alluding to you being a Hamas supporter or sympathizer.
But, just to be crystal clear, I do not think you are in any way shape or form a Hamas supporter or sympathizer.

[Alpeduez21]

58. Thank you. n/t

[The Magistrate]

51. It's A Thing Can't Be Said Too Often, Sir

There would not have been one bomb dropped on Gaza over the past several weeks, but for the atrocities Hamas committed on October 7. All supplies would be continuing as usual, but for the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7. Many hundreds of people now dead in Gaza would be alive, but for the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7. Many more will die who would not have, but for the atrocities committed by Hamas on October 7.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

54. I could not agree more sir.

[JohnSJ]

31. When Hamas invaded Israel on October 7, they declared war on Israel. A state of

war now exists

[womanofthehills]

61. So - they caught 13 Hamas

And killed 7000 to do it.

What they are doing is genocide - and now they can commit worse genocide because - people can no longer record their atrocities. This is also bad for our party. The latest Gallop poll said Biden’s favorability dropped 11 points this week among Democrats because of this war.

[JohnSJ]

63. A hell of a lot more than 13 Hamas invaded Israel killing 1400

civilians, and wounding over 4800 people by killing children in front of their parents, babies, men, women indiscriminately, and taking 250 hostages.

It is not genocide, it is a war started by Hamas, who actually call for the elimination of all Jews in their charter.

There is no justification for ANY civilians being killed in war, Israeli, Palestinian, etc.

You infer whatever you want from the polls.

That Gallop poll you mentioned indicates that pessimism about the economy, migrants entering the country, etc. are also factors in that approval poll. It is also right in line at this time with where Obama’s approval was in 2011 according to Gallop.

The approval among Democrats according to gallop is still at 75%.

Whether that is persistent or not remains to be seen, and difficult to access with one months reading.

As for Biden’s approval of U.S. foreign policy on Israel, the majority of Americans at this time approve of Biden’s handling of it, according to Quinnipiac.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/19/politics/polling-israel-hamas-biden/index.html

As for cutting of communications, that is done to impede communications between Hamas, Zislsmic Jihad, and Hezbolah.

[JohnSJ]

38. Seriously, what did you expect to happen when Hamas invaded Israel on October 7?

[FVZA_Colonel]

40. Given the 75 years of ethnic cleansing and murder waged against the Palestinians,

exactly this.

[JohnSJ]

43. So there was no "ethnic cleansing" before Israel? Bullshit

Your rendition of the Middle East and that area is a little distorted

[FVZA_Colonel]

44. No, it's quite clear.

Israel is a Euroamerican settler state that serves as an outpost of western hegemony, and the indigenous people don’t qualify as human in the eyes of the colonizers.

Kind of like something from America’s own history.

[JohnSJ]

47. You have just exposed yourself who you are

[MarineCombatEngineer]

48. Yeah,

and pretty blatantly at that.

[JohnSJ]

50. Exactly

[Ace Rothstein]

53. This is a bunch of nonsense.

Read a book.

[Igel]

59. I suspect they have.

Or they're echoing others who have. Once the ideas take root, no need to read the original source. I've caught myself issuing a quote, having it challenged, and realizing that I was quoting somebody that I in no other way agreed with (and when the quote was put in context, didn't agree in that way, either.)

For example, one possible book is Koestler's The 13th Tribe[link:https://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/13tribe.pdf|.

Or maybe the tsarist-era's "Protocols."

Not all books merit belief. I've read both of those decades back. Oddly, after each came away only wiser as to the sheer amount of idiocy in the universe. (And no, I'm only Jewish if by "Jewish" you mean "of Irish ancestry with a bit of Scottish and English." Then again, I've heard the claim that QEII was "Jewish.&quot

[JustAnotherGen]

64. You mean enslaved Americans

Right? Because Europe had a serious hand in the Genocide of Indigenous people and the ongoing effects of Colonization in Africa. Muslims (Janjaweed) murdered Christians in Sudan. It was and remains by design.

I challenge Middle Eastern Muslim Theocratic Governments to demand that Hamas AND Hezbollah step down, lay down their arms, and send in Soldiers to capture the leaders and participants in the Genocidal Terrorist Attacks on Israel on October 7th.

If they REALLY cared about the Palestinians - they would do this. They also would have spent the past three weeks setting up Refugee Camps with the Red Cross in their countries - and engaged with the UN, USA, and Israel to provide safe passage to their countries for the innocents in harms way.

I'm pretty pissed off that all the Humanitarian Aid given to Gaza has been pissed away by Hamas. That money could have been used for Reparations for those who have intergenerational financial disparity in America due to Jim Crow and Red Lining.

I'm in the top 3% of Tax Payers. We give large chunks annually to the UNCF and NAACP. I believe we should be taxed to the fullest extent - but distribution needs to be prioritized at home. Imagine if we had spent that money establishing charter schools for black kids in Mississippi. Mississippi is a *Christian School* State that has deliberately and maliciously underfunded Public Education for black children for 60 years. Giving their parents the money given to Gaza for the past decade would have achieved a better result.

The Tree of Life murderer was not a black person from Mississippi. Those folks who could have received an equal education were not going to murder Jewish people . . . the way Hamas did.

You start shit - expect to receive shit back. Its that simple Hamas and Hezbollah. They should have attacked Qatar, UAE and Saudi Arabia for not advocating for them.

[Zeitghost]

60. Unfortunatly

There are a significant number of people, including many here, that will cry foul if Israelis do anything more than dig their own graves.

Who knew I was committing war crimes when I shut off the Wi-Fi when my kids don't get their chores done.

[Straw Man]

41. Genocide, you say? The irony is thick, Grasshopper.

I suppose the Israelis, despite the tragic history of actual genocide being committed against their people, should care more for Palestinian children then they do for their own. They should just sit back and let Hamas continue to slaughter Israelis and then run back to their safe home amongst the civilian population of Gaza.

I genuinely, truly hope God exists so that this accursed country might face judgement some day.

Nope, no anti-Semitism here. Move along, folks.

[JohnSJ]

45. Your knowledge of history is quite distorted, and

ignores a lot of things, conveniently

[Willto]

46. Wow!

I genuinely, truly hope God exists so that this accursed country might face judgement some day.

Wow! You typically don't see this kind of blatant antisemitism outside of a site on the dark web run by skinheads or Klansmen.

[Tickle]

36. I thought I read here that musk

did something in Ukraine to give them access to the Internet?