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Was there ever a time when members of an opposition party voted for the other party's (Original Post) 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 OP
maybe during the 1800s when there were several parties JT45242 Oct 2023 #1
How many Republicans voted for Nancy Pelosi? Emile Oct 2023 #2
''A Majority or a Coalition? The Speaker Election of 1917'' Donkees Oct 2023 #3

JT45242

(2,299 posts)
1. maybe during the 1800s when there were several parties
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:14 AM
Oct 2023

As parties splintered and you had Whigs, Republicans, and other parties... but certainly not in my 50+ years of life.

We all vote for our dude or dudette.

The other party is supposed to ALL vote for dude or dudette.

Most votes wins.

If you have the occasional third party person, you try to convince them to vote for your side. You don't get the other side to vote for you.

I would bet my retirement account that Newt Gingrich, Boehner, McConnell in the Senate, NEVER, NOT ONCE, voted for a member of the opposite party into leadership.

Donkees

(31,473 posts)
3. ''A Majority or a Coalition? The Speaker Election of 1917''
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 09:35 AM
Oct 2023

Office of the Historian:

The 65th Congress featured the closest party split in American history. Just one seat separated the two major parties. And for the first time since 1879, neither Republicans nor Democrats held an outright House majority—which meant that neither party had the votes it needed to elect its candidate for Speaker on the strength of its own caucus.

“Standing at the crossway of party and Nation, as an independent Progressive Republican I have no hesitancy as to which way is right,” he continued. “The responsibility of my vote has weighed heavily upon my soul. I have reviewed and rereviewed the situation from every possible angle, and I have again and again been forced to the same conclusion.” Schall then confirmed what many in attendance had assumed: he would support Democrat Champ Clark for Speaker. Calling himself “a Lincoln Republican,” Schall said he would have proudly supported Mann during a time of peace. But with war on the horizon, he felt compelled to “Stand by the President,” and ensure that a Democratic Commander in Chief had the support of a Democratic Congress.

When Schall finished, the Clerk asked whether he was formally nominating Clark for Speaker. “It was not my intention,” Schall replied. “I merely wished to state the reasons and motive for my vote; but I deem it an unusual honor. I gladly place him in nomination for Speaker.”

In his brief opening remarks, Clark acknowledged the difficult task he faced “to discharge the duties of the Speakership in this House,” he said. “It will be almost impossible to do so without the hearty cooperation of the Members without regard to party affiliations.” That sense of cooperation also imbued Clark’s comments on the looming war. “On many questions we are ‘distinct as the billows, yet we are one as the sea,’ when the honor and safety of the Republic are involved,” he said. “Politics finds no place in this House when the general welfare and the common defense of the Nation are at stake.”

https://history.house.gov/Blog/2022/December/12-22-Speaker-Election-1917/
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