a statement from black lives matter about the pro hamas tweets from blm chicago

[moonshinegnomie]

they are NOT a real BLM account.

[Demovictory9]

1. Kick

[redqueen]

2. Eventually I hope more people will get tired of kneejerking so hard

No idea why it's so popular.

[Wounded Bear]

6. Hyperbole can be a very useful political tool...and it generates clicks...

[onenote]

7. Kneejerking is something the Internet does well. It happens here all the time, too.

[inthewind21]

12. It happened

here this morning with this fake post. Oh the outrage and calls for action against BLM Chicago. This afternoon, all will be well. Oh and FYI, CNN was broadcasting the ABSOLUTE truth this morning. By the afternoon they will be political hacks again!

[chowder66]

38. +1

[Alexander Of Assyria]

41. Good luck with that! The amount of knees being instantly jerked lately is a spectacle!

Logic stands little chance against knee jerk hate…hate first, facts later…isn’t a liberal thing,

[Marius25]

58. If we actually had real content moderation on Twitter instead of it

being run by a billionaire lunatic, maybe we wouldn't have these issues.

Sadly Twitter is a bastion of hate and violence thanks to Musk.

[pandr32]

62. +1

[JohnSJ]

3. That is why I view things from social media as suspect

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

24. Me too.

[leftstreet]

4. DURec

[DemocraticPatriot]

5. Glad to know it was from an imposter! Just goes to show, "you can't believe everything

you see posted on the internet"!


Also, the very first casualty in a war is often the truth...

[mopinko]

8. i saw it. it was just gross, and was not well received.

i assumed it was bullshit.

[Torchlight]

9. That was my firm guess.

It's the 21st century, by now most of us have access to basic research materials to verify a thing or not.

I'm beginning to think the only ones buying this kind of stuff are the ones who want to buy it.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

34. I did look into it.

The Twitter and Facebook pages have a reasonable number of followers and have been around for a long time. It's possible that the original BLM Chicago organization has faded and now it's run by one person, but the images and screenshots were real.

[inthewind21]

10. Wait....

What? You mean something on social media is a fake? Say it ain't so.

[WarGamer]

11. BLM Los Angeles with 300k followers also posted pro Hamas content.

Their post said


"resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self defense"

"We too understand what it means to be surveilled, dehumanized, property seized, families separated, our people criminalized and slaughtered with impunity..."

[onenote]

13. BLM "national' explained that they have no control over any other "BLM" sites

BLM "national" explained that they are not commenting on the violence in the Middle East.

So I'm wondering whether you read BLM national's statement.

[LisaM]

26. They should send takedown notices.

They have every right to police use of their name and they should get a good lawyer and get these other usernames taken down.

[obamanut2012]

15. Except they are not BLM

[WarGamer]

16. ok... they just call themselves BLM LA and they have 300k followers

[moonshinegnomie]

18. i tempted to create a twitter page called real blm chicago and real blm la

and just have it point to the national blm page

[JoseBalow]

29. Return of the Son of BLM

[obamanut2012]

22. They are not BLM

My God.

[Zeitghost]

23. They are a BLM organization

They are not affiliated with the largest BLM national network.

[Sympthsical]

17. It's interesting

"It's fake! (but I defended it anyway . . .)"

I think I'd have a stroke if I had to keep all of it straight in my head at this point.

Not that this means anything. People knew it was a local chapter. They're a fairly decentralized group. The national LLC doesn't support it? Great! But some of the local chapters and accounts certainly are finding support from somewhere.

The Right would certainly try to paint the entire national movement with it, but I don't think anyone here is. (And if they are, fair enough. I stopped reading that thread. It's a scene.)

[WarGamer]

19. Like any group of millions of diverse people... I don't believe folks who like BLM

Are any more or less likely to support Hamas than the population in general.

But unfortunately, stuff like this will feed the other side.

[Sympthsical]

20. In my experience, particularly with decentralized groups

It's usually the more radical people who are pulling the levers of smaller local chapters.

People keep saying, "It's fake!"

I don't think this chapter is fake. This looks plenty real to me.

Link to tweet

[W_HAMILTON]

48. M&Ms, Barbie, LED light bulbs, Budweiser, Happy Holidays...

...what the fuck DOESN'T """feed the other side?"""

Outrage is their permanent state and the rightwing echo chamber keeps them well fed.

[moonshinegnomie]

25. blm chicago is trying to walk back their posts

[onenote]

27. Excusing slaughter of innocents as something that Hamas "must do" isn't walking it back.

[Behind the Aegis]

30. Apparently, it works for some who call themselves liberal/progressive.

It is nauseating.

[sarisataka]

32. Seems less a walk back

And more a double down

[BlueCheeseAgain]

28. Which account is that screenshot from, on which platform?

I'm happy to add a link to the other OP for context. A cursory look at BLM's FB, Twitter, and Instagram pages don't turn it up for me.

The other OP makes it clear that it was BLM Chicago that posted the image. The BLM Chicago Facebook and Twitter pages are longstanding and have 50-60K followers each. They appear to have at least once been legitimate.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

31. Is this the Twitter account?

https://twitter.com/Blklivesmatter

That has the right number of followers (nearly a million), but I don't see this post anywhere. If you can provide a link (I know Elon Musk is very distasteful), I'd appreciate it.

[moonshinegnomie]

35. from blm chicagos feed

https://x.com/BLMChi/status/1712180086512800139?s=20

i think they posted it to BLM chicagos facebook which appears to be gone now

[BlueCheeseAgain]

39. Thank you.

[oldsoftie]

33. So "not getting involved" is a better way to go huh?

For a "human rights" organization to not be able to make a Statement condemning the SLAUGHTER of men, women & children is a weak act

[NowISeetheLight]

36. Who Could've Done Such a Thing?

[BlueCheeseAgain]

37. The BLM Chicago Twitter account started in February 2015 was an 8-year long plot by Republicans...

... waiting for this week to do something?

[Wednesdays]

46. So, you're saying the OP is a lie?

[BlueCheeseAgain]

47. I'm saying that the idea that the BLM Chicago account is run by Republicans is wrong.

All signs point to it being a genuine post by BLM Chicago, and that BLM Chicago is not affiliated with the national BLM.

You may find it amusing that the image in the OP, which some people think exposes BLM Chicago as a fake, was actually posted by the BLM Chicago's account themselves.

[SouthernDem4ever]

40. Just remember that Russia now runs Xitter.

They would create a bunch of BLM sites with different names and say anything inflammatory. I don't read that crap anymore. If something sounds ridiculous, it's usually fake.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

43. The BLM Chicago Twitter and FB accounts were set up in 2015

[SouthernDem4ever]

49. by whom?

[BlueCheeseAgain]

50. Presumably by BLM Chicago.

Unless you're suggesting Russians or Republicans had the extreme foresight to set them up then, post only things completely consistent with being BLM Chicago for eight years, and then suddenly this week decide to discredit the movement on the subject of Israel.

[SouthernDem4ever]

53. I can imagine them doing worse things than that

Everything you read on social media is suspect. At least on Fux Nooze or OAN you can watch who's lying.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

55. Then do you also doubt the statement from the national BLM?

OP got it from the BLM Chicago account itself.

[SouthernDem4ever]

56. I am tired of the word "movement"

give me some names that are doing the typing.

[W_HAMILTON]

51. Right around the time Russia was launching a massive disinformation operation to upend the election?

You don't say...

Whether this particular no-name BLM offshoot is a Republican/Russian ploy like so many were in 2016, I have no idea. I would guess not, but acting incredulous that anyone could suggest such a thing, when such a thing did happen right around that time, comes off as being completely oblivious to what we since learned was going on back then.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

54. You think that they've been laying in wait since 2015...

... dutifully organizing local events in Chicago, and decided that this week was the week they were going to blow their cover?

And that I'm oblivious for being skeptical of that sequence of events?

[uponit7771]

52. +1

[Evolve Dammit]

42. It will become increasingly hard with AI and all the RW hate out there to discern fact. Thanks DU

for being a bastion of normalcy and critical thinking.

[egduj]

44. Doesn't get any clearer than that.

Timely and well-stated.

[TygrBright]

45. What!?!? Pooty stirring shit again! NO....! n/t

[ProudProgressiveNow]

57. KR NT

[Roy Rolling]

59. Failure

The fact BLM had to issue this statement is a Musk failure/feature of the blue check $8 grift.

Separately, why are we powerless to uncover the one individual who posted this fake screed? Seriously, the identity can’t be uncovered?

Like a ne’er-do-well who buys an AR-15 to assuage his feelings of hating everyone, that’s too much power in one individual’s hands.

It’s a major failure when someone makes money broadcasting false information anonymously with the help of a cooperative broadcaster like Elmo’s Twitter. His biggest ad revenue generator may have been from enabling this fake news tweet. The “transparency” is unleashing the misinformation krakens.

[jfz9580m]

60. That last line makes complete sense

"No social media account from the actual BLM organization will be issuing support or any press release in regards to Israel/Palestine at all."

Not every lefty group has to comment on every single issue. It distracts from their own mission and strands them in a lose-lose situation either way.

For instance I was sorry to see there was a rift in TST-I kinda like those guys. I hope they stay together:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/social-justice-rebellion-satanic-temple/675481/

I generally think Lucien Greaves of TST sounds fairly reasonable* and I agreed with him on a lot. What can seem like an insistence that all groups should always formally state positions on all issues is a losing proposition for most serious activist groups. It derails them from their actual goals and missions.

Many progressive causes generally are in alignment but there is no need for them to be one homogeneous group-it can even be detrimental. That is kind of the whole point of being a "snowflake". That you have complicated unique viewpoints not one consolidated view whatever your general allyships etc.

It is okay to have a focus and to stick to it..I think it is great that TST is helping women get abortions. One of TST's focuses is bodily autonomy and I respect groups sticking to their missions. They all have different distinct important roles on the left-from animal rights people to deep greens to lighter greens to labor rights and blue collar issues, women's/LGBTQ and civil rights groups to feminists to anti war groups/anti hate groups to abortion rights activists to atheists/satanists/pro science groups/good ai safety groups like DAIR or even left leaning people of mild faith who support choice. They don't all have to be one monolith.

BLM does important work and this was an attempt to troll them. Good for them for not taking the bait..their mission is too important for them to get mired in needless controversies like these.

* Silvermann though does sound like a creep, but as Greaves points out he has all but disappeared so whatever. As an atheist/satanist in spirit , I am glad they booted Silvermann out.

Edit: Also whether it is MeToo/BLM or any lefty group of the Twitter era that has accomplished stuff, they can expect to be thoroughly trolled under an ass like Musk.

[kwolf68]

61. Ahh yes

I wondered what happened to all those "Antifa" people who were going to BLM rallies stirring up trouble. They've now gotten behind a computer. Don't think for a moment BLM isn't being targeted by right wing extremists in this way.

[Stuart G]

63. K and R