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Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 01:20 AM Oct 2023

Why Puerto Rico Is Adding 'USA' to Its Driver's Licenses

Why Puerto Rico Is Adding ‘USA’ to Its Driver’s Licenses
Puerto Ricans have long been wrongly told that their driver’s licenses are not proof that they are American but some question whether the change will resolve much.



Humberto Marchand turned on his phone camera and began recording inside the airport in May because he could not believe what he was hearing.

The subsequent video was posted on social media and showed an employee of Hertz, the rental car chain, refusing to give Mr. Marchand his prepaid reserved car because he had presented a driver’s license issued from Puerto Rico, where he is from. The employee did not realize that this meant he was American and ignored Mr. Marchand’s pleas as he repeated, “It is a valid ID.”

Eileen Vélez Vega, Puerto Rico’s secretary of transportation and public works, felt increasingly frustrated as she watched that video in the spring, which reignited concerns over how Puerto Ricans are treated in the United States and the way their colonial past still vexes the island.

“I was shocked about how much lack of education, lack of knowledge was out there,” Ms. Vélez Vega said in an interview, noting that people born in Puerto Rico, a commonwealth of the United States, have the same birthright American citizenship as people born in the 50 states. “I couldn’t believe what was happening.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/08/us/puerto-rico-drivers-license-usa.html
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Why Puerto Rico Is Adding 'USA' to Its Driver's Licenses (Original Post) Demovictory9 Oct 2023 OP
They should be a state. And Washington DC should be another one. calimary Oct 2023 #1
That would give us 4 Senators RainCaster Oct 2023 #3
Oh for Pete's sake, where was my brain? calimary Oct 2023 #5
DC would certainly give us two, but I imagine PR would be much more swingy. tritsofme Oct 2023 #9
Puerto Ricans are not a guaranteed Democratic vote LeftInTX Oct 2023 #8
Yeah they are. As are the Somoans, the Marianans, the Virgin Islanders, and the Guamese AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #11
I can't speak to the politics of the other territories aside from DC, but it's simply not true tritsofme Oct 2023 #13
Considering I lived there once and still talk to many people there in many different places there AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #16
From what I know of Puerto Rico, Elessar Zappa Oct 2023 #19
Which is precisely why they won't become states Polybius Oct 2023 #21
They like paper towels thrown at them Cha Oct 2023 #14
It's more complicated than that. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #23
Statehood for PR. roamer65 Oct 2023 #2
KnR Hekate Oct 2023 #4
Because Americans by and large are not all that bright (too put it way too nicely.) Iggo Oct 2023 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Backseat Driver Oct 2023 #10
In 2020 they held a vote and 53 pc of the PR people were for... TreasonousBastard Oct 2023 #7
Side note: I wonder what that idiot Hertz employee do if geardaddy Oct 2023 #12
Note..she called the cops, cop doubled down, told the Puerto Rican man to get out Demovictory9 Oct 2023 #17
Thanks. I couldn't read the entire article geardaddy Oct 2023 #18
I knew someone from New Mexico who sometimes had a hard time convincing others Raine Oct 2023 #15
I can confirm that the story is true. marybourg Oct 2023 #20
Because stupid Americans. I remember this story in the OP ms liberty Oct 2023 #22
Thanks to Red State Education! FSogol Oct 2023 #24

calimary

(81,459 posts)
1. They should be a state. And Washington DC should be another one.
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 01:29 AM
Oct 2023

That sure would take some pressure off the Democrat/Republican divide. Two more Senators in the "D" column which would be decisive and give our side some breathing room. It sucks having to dance on a knife edge all the time.

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)
9. DC would certainly give us two, but I imagine PR would be much more swingy.
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 02:47 AM
Oct 2023

I have spent a lot of time in PR during my life, my fear is that statehood is perpetual, and permanent status is still very controversial. Our Union is forever, if a bare majority supported statehood today, and then a generation later the consensus is for self determination or something else, I’m not sure the solution.

Unless there is a clear and overwhelming consensus for statehood, I think we should be cautious.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,753 posts)
11. Yeah they are. As are the Somoans, the Marianans, the Virgin Islanders, and the Guamese
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 03:31 AM
Oct 2023

Those all become states with DC and the Democrats have 12 permanent senators.

tritsofme

(17,399 posts)
13. I can't speak to the politics of the other territories aside from DC, but it's simply not true
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 04:51 AM
Oct 2023

that Puerto Rico would be automatic Democratic pickups. They would be competitive seats.

AZLD4Candidate

(5,753 posts)
16. Considering I lived there once and still talk to many people there in many different places there
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 05:13 AM
Oct 2023

I respectfully disagree.

Elessar Zappa

(14,047 posts)
19. From what I know of Puerto Rico,
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 05:51 AM
Oct 2023

there is the possibility of Republicans being elected but Democrats would be favored.

LeftInTX

(25,551 posts)
23. It's more complicated than that.
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 09:00 AM
Oct 2023

They have conservative factions.

He locked kids in cages in Texas and Latinos ended up supporting him.

Response to Iggo (Reply #6)

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. In 2020 they held a vote and 53 pc of the PR people were for...
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 02:34 AM
Oct 2023

statehood, but only about half voted, so we still don't know what they really want.

Statehood is easy, just come up with a decent state Constitution and Congress votes you in or out. Problem is, too many people are happy with things as they are. Regulatíons seem a bit lighter with them not being a state, but that has a lot to do with Congress being an assortment of assholes.

And never forget the power of racism. We fought a war over it, but it never really goes away.

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
12. Side note: I wonder what that idiot Hertz employee do if
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 04:15 AM
Oct 2023

Some one gave them a Manitoba or Ontario driver's license as ID?
You don't have to hold a driver's license of the country you're renting a car in.
I've used my Minnesota license to rent a car in Canada and the UK.

Demovictory9

(32,475 posts)
17. Note..she called the cops, cop doubled down, told the Puerto Rican man to get out
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 05:28 AM
Oct 2023

Nothing he said could convince them he was an American. Herz and the police dept had to address the video..admit wrong doing

geardaddy

(24,931 posts)
18. Thanks. I couldn't read the entire article
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 05:41 AM
Oct 2023

What absolutely disgusting behavior by the Hertz agent and the cops. She needs to be fired and brought up on charges, though, I'm sure it wouldn't go anywhere.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
15. I knew someone from New Mexico who sometimes had a hard time convincing others
Tue Oct 10, 2023, 04:56 AM
Oct 2023

that New Mexico is NOT part of the country of Mexico but is in the United States!

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