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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas anyone wondered if the large sum from MBS bought the info that went to Hamas?
I know the prevalent idea is Russia to Iran to Hamas....
But would destabilizing the Middle East, driving up the price of oil and getting Iran blamed for it seems like something prince bone saw might give the trump clan lots of money thru Jared and Ivanka.
Or info in exchange for golf tournaments....
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)consideration defines the scope of the GOP and Trump's failures.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)any more than the Bush maladministrations fantasy that Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11.
stopdiggin
(11,370 posts)for scenarios having at least some minimal plausibility ...
The rest is just free range (food fight!) thought experiment ...
The kind that sounds a lot better when you're, 19, a college sophomore, and 4 beers into a 6-pack.
JI7
(89,271 posts)They want to go the way of UAE .
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)Hamas is backed by Iran, Saudi Arabias biggest enemy in the region. The Saudis were in the verge of a peace treaty with Israel and the U.S. that would have isolates Iran. Theres lots of speculation as to whether Iran ordered Hamas to stage this attack to undercut those negotiations. It didnt help the Saudis; in fact, it may have caused them considerable difficulty.
If youre looking for a route from Trump to the attack, youd be better off considering that Irans biggest backer/ally is Russia, and this helps turn the worlds focus away from Ukraine. And, of course, TFGs affinity for Russia is well-known.
In general, its wise to look carefully for alliances and alienations throughout that region before speculating on who might behind what. Coming at it from the assumption that Arabs/Muslims are all one undifferentiated, malevolent group is unlikely to produce any analysis short of inaccurate stereotypes that helps nothing.
LiberaBlueDem
(908 posts)Hamas is supported by a secret nazi bunch just to make chaos for Israel and prod them into war. Would not take much money but lots of secret manuvers.
But Hamas must be crushed. That Hamas has been around so long means they have hidden backing to create such chaos.
former9thward
(32,082 posts)The Saudis and Hamas are enemies. If anything Hamas (at Iran's direction) made the attack to try and derail peace agreements with the Saudis and Israel. The Palestinians are being cut out of the peace agreements that the Arab nations are making with Israel. The Arab nations don't want anything to do with them.
Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)prodigitalson
(2,431 posts)Putin on the other hand loves him some Iran..and needs their help. It just makes way more sense that Putin is ingratiating himself with the ayatollahs with their drones than that Prince Bonesaw is gonna help his mortal enemies...especially when he is trying to normalize relations with Israel (who he despises way less than he does the Iranians or their Hamas minions.) Only thing MBS would give Hamas is the bonesaw treatment. MBS is one evil fucker but he has specific priorities. One of which may have just gone up in smoke as he finds it more difficult to normalize with Israel when Israel is killing a bunch of Palestinians. So there is another motive for the Iranians...prevent a diplomatic relationship between their two biggest enemies. Israel and Saudi Arabia. Putin is the one digging the chaos.
LiberaBlueDem
(908 posts)Netanyahoo has used Hamas
https://democraticunderground.com/100218346296
stopdiggin
(11,370 posts)drivel. (Which is to say not much. And, no, I've spent almost no time pondering the - extremely far fetched - possibility ... )