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videohead5

(2,188 posts)
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 09:33 AM Sep 2023

Let's put older Americans out of our misery

Discrimination against older people is a problem in this country. President Biden is healthy and works out every day. he could live to be 95 or 100 easily. Any president could drop dead at any age that's why we have a VP.

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Let's put older Americans out of our misery (Original Post) videohead5 Sep 2023 OP
Yes employability should be determined case by case. Irish_Dem Sep 2023 #1
Like Vivek Ramaslicky-boy, for example. calimary Sep 2023 #21
Come on, be nice! You mean Ramasmarmy, right? dchill Sep 2023 #26
No, the other one, Ramascammy JHB Sep 2023 #51
Yes being a Russian agent and Putin employee should not qualify a person for POTUS. Irish_Dem Sep 2023 #39
I kinda like referring to him as Vicegrip Swindlesmarmy. n/t dobleremolque Sep 2023 #50
Hey, that's a good one! calimary Sep 2023 #55
How is he being discriminated against? brooklynite Sep 2023 #2
I believe most voters videohead5 Sep 2023 #4
The two things Rebl2 Sep 2023 #7
criteria for ascending AF1... Layzeebeaver Sep 2023 #9
Greald Ford fell down AF 1 Stairs.. Fla Dem Sep 2023 #20
2023 Layzeebeaver Sep 2023 #46
its another republican smear campaign. bullimiami Sep 2023 #12
TFG is three-and-a-half years younger Seinan Sensei Sep 2023 #16
Truth K/R appalachiablue Sep 2023 #31
And some voters consider skin color and gender to be a standard. Lancero Sep 2023 #14
+1 spooky3 Sep 2023 #18
Well stated...thank you! PortTack Sep 2023 #29
Age discrimination is real, people need to understand and oppose it. Your turn will come, be wise. appalachiablue Sep 2023 #32
so often when I hear a side remark on age I think, oh your day is coming Captain Zero Sep 2023 #56
Discrimination by Age Jazz Jon Sep 2023 #28
I worked for a leading global technology consulting company LastDemocratInSC Sep 2023 #40
Repukes don't like VP Harris meow2u3 Sep 2023 #3
And they can't bully or intimidate her... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #11
What I find truly offensive is how Kamala is dismissed as a serious candidate. bullimiami Sep 2023 #13
Which is why they've torn Kamala Harris down from Day 1 peggysue2 Sep 2023 #15
It's so ironic--Haley, not Harris, is the scary woman if color based on her spooky3 Sep 2023 #34
It sure was fun shoving it in their faces though. Ligyron Sep 2023 #42
Exactly. ananda Sep 2023 #5
FDR was 63 when he died of a cerebral hemorrhage and had been confined to a wheelchair for years flying_wahini Sep 2023 #6
++ appalachiablue Sep 2023 #33
Attitude Adjuster Kid Berwyn Sep 2023 #8
Many thanks, Kid Berwyn, for the timely attitude adjuster, deluxe edition thatcrowwoman Sep 2023 #27
My father was sharp into his mid-90s perdita9 Sep 2023 #10
I always look at the parents TexasBushwhacker Sep 2023 #17
America better get use to it as our population ages. paleotn Sep 2023 #19
Don't give them ideas. HubertHeaver Sep 2023 #37
Mick Jagger is the same age as Biden jmbar2 Sep 2023 #22
Whoa, good one! appalachiablue Sep 2023 #35
I wish the media would emphasize Callalily Sep 2023 #23
Yes Snackshack Sep 2023 #24
We vilify Joe Biden over his physical and mental health Norbert Sep 2023 #25
Most of my great grand parents and grand parents lived to be in their 90's. Lunabell Sep 2023 #30
FxxxFace is only 3 years younger plus Chalco Sep 2023 #36
Yes, please do. I expect that he will soon be revealed to have NCjack Sep 2023 #41
Amen. Giving my thoughts and prayers. nt Chalco Sep 2023 #48
I agree DownriverDem Sep 2023 #38
Love this so much! Thank you! AllyCat Sep 2023 #43
Nice 2,000th post! Agree 100% Evolve Dammit Sep 2023 #44
Amen and amen Lulu KC Sep 2023 #45
:) +100. Hortensis Sep 2023 #47
Had a brilliant friend with 3 masters degrees Attilatheblond Sep 2023 #49
I'm suddenly reminded of Logan's Run Alpeduez21 Sep 2023 #52
Jimmy Carter LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #53
The real issue is America misses her toxic relationship with her last president. carpetbagger Sep 2023 #54

Irish_Dem

(47,883 posts)
1. Yes employability should be determined case by case.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 09:40 AM
Sep 2023

There are many younger Americans who would be an utter disaster in the WH.

calimary

(81,594 posts)
55. Hey, that's a good one!
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 02:12 AM
Sep 2023

All these plays in his name are clever. I like ‘em all. He certainly invites them.

brooklynite

(94,973 posts)
2. How is he being discriminated against?
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 09:41 AM
Sep 2023

Voters apply all sorts of standards to their choices of candidates. Age and apparent strength is one of them.

And part of the concern by those who think Biden is too old to carry out his full term is that Harris is not as popular as he is.

videohead5

(2,188 posts)
4. I believe most voters
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 09:52 AM
Sep 2023

Are basing it on Biden falling a couple of times. He got his foot caught and fell off of his bike and he tripped over a sandbag. Trump is only 3 years younger and eats junk food and is out of shape and yet a lot less of the voters believe that Trump is too old. There is no video of Trump falling and it being shared all over social media. I fell last year and I'm in my 50s.

Rebl2

(13,591 posts)
7. The two things
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 10:16 AM
Sep 2023

you mentioned could happen to anyone at any age. My father towards the end of his life (his mid eighties) would fall for no reason. He didn’t trip over anything, he would just fall. He fought us on getting a walker, but eventually came around.

Layzeebeaver

(1,647 posts)
9. criteria for ascending AF1...
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 10:41 AM
Sep 2023

you can't fall.

but you can ascend entirely with toilet paper on you shoe.

This is America 2023.

Fla Dem

(23,881 posts)
20. Greald Ford fell down AF 1 Stairs..
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:29 AM
Sep 2023





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bullimiami

(13,114 posts)
12. its another republican smear campaign.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:03 AM
Sep 2023

bengazi. buttery mails. swiftboat. whitewater.

today bidens is too old. senile. also a criminal mastermind and head of a crime family.

its bullshit and its not "most voters"

i think "most voters" arent as stupid and gullible as "some voters".

Hes old. No shit. So is Trump.
If a voter actually has an age problem they shouldnt be voting for either.

Anyway its all bullshit and CNN should be further embarrassed by pushing this shit just like the right wing asshole machine.

Seinan Sensei

(372 posts)
16. TFG is three-and-a-half years younger
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:12 AM
Sep 2023

So if TFG gets in office Jan of 2025, he will be two years younger than Biden is now
Jan 2027 (halfway through his term) TFG would be same age as Biden is now

Lancero

(3,018 posts)
14. And some voters consider skin color and gender to be a standard.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:07 AM
Sep 2023

Feel free to argue that these "standards" are not discriminatory.

Fun bonus for you, the definition of discriminatory via Google. Oddly, it lists age as a factor of such - So, reconcile that however you wish.

dis·crim·i·na·to·ry
/dəˈskrimənəˌtôrē/
adjective
making or showing an unjust or prejudicial distinction between different categories of people, especially on the grounds of ethnicity, sex, age, or disability.

Jazz Jon

(109 posts)
28. Discrimination by Age
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:54 AM
Sep 2023

You make the age discrimination point beautifully. The point is that age should not be a criteria except on a case by case basis. Age ended my computer coding career. The only shop where I got a job had a mean age of 48. After that job, all the phone interviews went really great, but once they saw my white hair in person, the in person interviews ended in about two minutes.

LastDemocratInSC

(3,657 posts)
40. I worked for a leading global technology consulting company
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 01:04 PM
Sep 2023

until I decided to retire at age 73. I kept up with technology and did web application architecture work. The difference, I think, is that the company is based in Canada and therefore has a greater since of humanity than most US companies.

I still get remote work project offers from them every week.

meow2u3

(24,776 posts)
3. Repukes don't like VP Harris
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 09:51 AM
Sep 2023

She's a woman of color, who they hate because of her gender and her skin color. Those diabolical bigots can't handle taking orders frrom people they regard as "inferior."

bullimiami

(13,114 posts)
13. What I find truly offensive is how Kamala is dismissed as a serious candidate.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:06 AM
Sep 2023

There is deep built in bias at work there.
And not just from her opponents.

She is as smart and experienced and as qualified as its possible to be.

peggysue2

(10,850 posts)
15. Which is why they've torn Kamala Harris down from Day 1
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:09 AM
Sep 2023

Nikki Haley is underscoring how a vote for Joe Biden is a vote for Kamala Harris for President. Haley predicts Biden will never fulfill a second term, and then the scary, unfit, woman of color will step into the Oval Office.

Be afraid, be very afraid!

There is no bottom for Republicans!



spooky3

(34,526 posts)
34. It's so ironic--Haley, not Harris, is the scary woman if color based on her
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 12:17 PM
Sep 2023

Bad Policies, lies, and other actions.

Ligyron

(7,645 posts)
42. It sure was fun shoving it in their faces though.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 01:52 PM
Sep 2023

I remember some folks that I didn't much care for personally being stunned a black guy got elected President. That part was fun but then some of those same type people decided they'd make sure nothing like that happened again. But then it did!

Of course, that pissed them off even more and even though the man ran the most perfect, scandal free administration in the history of the United States, they still tried their best to invent something, anything. The worst they could come up with was the absolute horror of him wearing a tan suit...and wearing it well too.

flying_wahini

(6,700 posts)
6. FDR was 63 when he died of a cerebral hemorrhage and had been confined to a wheelchair for years
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 10:15 AM
Sep 2023

People can die at anytime.
If Biden can do the job, and clearly he can, then it is ageism plain and simple.

thatcrowwoman

(1,229 posts)
27. Many thanks, Kid Berwyn, for the timely attitude adjuster, deluxe edition
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:52 AM
Sep 2023

Love these Uppity Blues Women
I’m feeling all Uppity crowWoman with the Blues today, myself.
🕊thatcrowwoman

perdita9

(1,144 posts)
10. My father was sharp into his mid-90s
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 10:45 AM
Sep 2023

A lot of people are. Biden, despite his stutter, seems to handle questions fine although it's more difficult when there's background noise.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,251 posts)
17. I always look at the parents
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:17 AM
Sep 2023

Biden's father lived to almost 87 and his mother lived to 92.

Trump's father was diagnosed with dementia in his mid 80s and he was far more physically fit than TFG.

paleotn

(18,012 posts)
19. America better get use to it as our population ages.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:28 AM
Sep 2023

I have a colleague in his early 70's with no plans to retire anytime soon since in his words he'd be bored out of his skull. I'm in somewhat the same boat in what would normally be the tail end of my career, but I have no plans to retire in the short to medium term. We still contribute as much as in our prime career years and walk around with institutional knowledge and experience that would be damn hard to replace. Want to know how something actually works? Ask an old guy instead of wasting time figuring it out yourself and suffering through trial and error. I get making room for younger guys coming up, but I've also seen the impact of key players retiring. It's damn tough to immediately replace what they contributed.

Same with government. Biden, Pelosi and others are walking around with incredible amounts of knowledge and experience we'd be hard pressed to replicate in younger members of the party without repeating the same mistakes older guys learned from long ago. If they're still contributing, let them. If not, then it's time for them to move on. If only we had a data port in the back of our heads like The Matrix and could transfer that knowledge. But, alas, we do not.

Callalily

(14,900 posts)
23. I wish the media would emphasize
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:33 AM
Sep 2023

alll of Biden's accomplishments during his short stay in office, instead of harping about his age!

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
24. Yes
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:33 AM
Sep 2023

It would make waking up on my side of the planet each time the earth spins back into light a lot nicer if people would learn to worry about themselves and leave others alone.

Unless it’s a threat or impact to a person they should mind their own business an no one else.

Norbert

(6,043 posts)
25. We vilify Joe Biden over his physical and mental health
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 11:41 AM
Sep 2023

although he works out to keep in shape and reads a lot.

The orange malignancy is not much younger, has mental issues, is morbidly obese and is on a diet that will likely lead to a stroke or massive heart attack. Oh, but this is okay.

Lunabell

(6,140 posts)
30. Most of my great grand parents and grand parents lived to be in their 90's.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 12:01 PM
Sep 2023

My grandfather worked his huge garden until he was hospitalized with lung cancer. (3 packs a day will do that) He was a hoot and his mind was with it. My great grandparents were all fit and of sound mind until they passed. Age is just a number.

The only reason my 85 year old father became mentally unstable was because the melanomas on his shoulders (caused by working shirtless in the sun) metastasized to his brain.

President Biden shows absolutely no signs or symptoms of diminished capacity. Unlike the orange malignant narcissist a bunch of idiots voted for in 2016. Flabby, out of shape, can't spell, doesn't know how to read or understand the Constitution and definitely does not understand democracy.

President Biden is a good man and he has my 100% support this year and in 2024!

Chalco

(1,312 posts)
36. FxxxFace is only 3 years younger plus
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 12:24 PM
Sep 2023

he's not fit, he's stupid, he's immoral, engages in illegal behavior.

Should I go on?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
41. Yes, please do. I expect that he will soon be revealed to have
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 01:19 PM
Sep 2023

nonalcoholic fatty liver disease, from diet of McD's hamburgers.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. :) +100.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 04:22 PM
Sep 2023

Principles of equality and rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness apply to all individuals.

Attilatheblond

(2,272 posts)
49. Had a brilliant friend with 3 masters degrees
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 05:20 PM
Sep 2023

He had an amazing ability to learn fast and deeply, and not just book learning. His life skills were amazing and he could live off of almost any land easily.

He also developed a type of early onset dementia. By age 48, he had to be institutionalized as he could no longer function and take care of himself.

Age is a number, not a conditions.

carpetbagger

(4,392 posts)
54. The real issue is America misses her toxic relationship with her last president.
Sun Sep 10, 2023, 08:15 PM
Sep 2023

the age issue resonates because Biden does his job quietly. The stutter doesn't help, but they're capitalizing on the fact that most voters sense there's something missing in the current president and they can't put their finger on it. What they're missing is the howling, like one misses the conflict of a bad relationship.

I think age is an issue, it may not be fair but it's a 4-year contract, there hasn't been a VP as popular as the president in my lifetime, and only one or two losing candidates as popular as the heads of their tickets. People vote for president. Biden is clearly not demented, this is a smear campaign from the party that can't win on ideas. But they can win on a disciplined smear (cf. Gore, Kerry, H Clinton).

We had a demented president once. He won re-election by his supporters pumping up perceptions of the condition of the economy. We can re-elect Biden by 14 months of continual talk about his accomplishments.

8 million fewer people with medical debt on their credit reports.


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