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babylonsister

(171,092 posts)
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 07:42 PM Aug 2023

Fani Willis bares her teeth to keep the flock together.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/8/31/2190726/-Fani-Willis-bares-her-teeth-to-keep-the-flock-together

Fani Willis bares her teeth to keep the flock together.
Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 12:55:02p EDT
Beak


In her newest filling Fulton County DA Fani Willis has asked the court to advise the 19 defendants of the consequences a demand for a speedy trial would have for some of the rights they otherwise would have.

The Defendants cannot now argue that they are entitled to the State’s discovery responses ten (10) days in advance of trial.
The Defendants cannot now argue that they are entitled to notice of the State’s similar transaction evidence ten (10) days in advance of trial.
The Defendants are now precluded from calling any witnesses whose statements were not provided to the State at least ten (10) days in advance of trial.
The Defendants cannot now complain that they received less than seven (7) days notice of the trial date in this case.


The wording of her motion suggests that she wants to show the defendants that she sees through their tactic of trying to get an expedited trial and then having evidence excluded because it was not disclosed in time.

The State is entitled to a fair trial as well as the Defense. A defendant who does not possess discovery materials cannot file a statutory speedy trial demand and then claim that the State’s evidence should be excluded on the basis of this Court adhering to that same demand and scheduling accordingly. In other words, this Court should not be transformed into a forum for “Gotcha”.


That’s why she specifically asks the court to put them on the record.


Should the Defendants in this case desire to proceed to trial under these circumstances, then they should be required to confirm it, personally and on the record, prior to trial.




What’s not really clear for me is what consequences the speedy trial date would have for the other defendants, as Willis obviously still wants to try them all together. Would they also loose the aforementioned rights even if they didn’t ask for a speedy trial for themselves? To my knowledge there hasn’t been a ruling on severing one or more cases up until now. Perhaps someone could comment on this issue (if anyone reads this diary at all).
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Recycle_Guru

(2,973 posts)
2. there's very little reason to think many of the defendants will be tried at once
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 10:36 PM
Aug 2023

there might be some third tier group that decides to just move along without all of the hijinks.

I think bigger fish like Giuliani, Meadows and Trump will have separate trials

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
3. Comparing Fani Willis to a dog? Seriously?
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 10:41 PM
Aug 2023

(I know it's the website, not you.) But would it have characterized Jack Smith that way?

canetoad

(17,184 posts)
4. I, for one
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:29 PM
Aug 2023

Would be honoured to be compared with an intelligent, loyal, protective working dog, carrying out it's duty. And yes, I am a female and a staunch feminist.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
5. Blacks are far too freqently compared to animals as an insult
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:33 PM
Aug 2023

for this to be appropriate, from my perspective.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
8. I wasn't searching for offense.
Thu Aug 31, 2023, 11:45 PM
Aug 2023

The headline offended me the instant I read it, and that offense has not dissipated as the headline has periodically popped back up into view.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
14. Mixed metaphor in my mind
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 05:08 PM
Sep 2023

baring one's teeth to keep "flock" together. But maybe it's just me.

Duh. "flock" made me think of birds. Okay, I'm an idiot.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
15. Especially since - as a general rule - herding dogs do not bare their teeth.
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 05:15 PM
Sep 2023

The image accompanying the article was of a dog and a bunch of sheep.

meadowlander

(4,406 posts)
10. It's clearly not intended as an insult in the context of this article.
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 12:12 AM
Sep 2023

It's a reference to sheep herding - the admirable ability of working dogs to keep the flock safe and in order through the exercise of just authority.

One of my coworkers at work today told another coworker that was leaving that she was a "unicorn" meaning that she possessed a combination of positive traits that was difficult to find. Is she supposed to be insulted that this was "dehumanising" to her or should she take it in the spirit in which it was obviously intended?

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
11. Intention is not the issue
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 08:09 AM
Sep 2023

Effect is.

Far too many people excuse the use of racial, gender, etc. stereotyping with the rationalization that they didn't intend to be hurtful.

Takket

(21,626 posts)
12. "Baring teeth" is a common metaphor for taking an aggressive stance
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 08:17 AM
Sep 2023

There’s nothing here to be offended about. If anything tikis complimentary of her “take no shit” attitude towards insurrectionists.

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
13. Did you click through to the article?
Fri Sep 1, 2023, 04:54 PM
Sep 2023

The image is a dog herding sheep. They are not using it as a general metaphor. They are literally comparing her to a dog.

Not to mention that dogs generally do not bare their teeth while herding - that is a behavior displayed by cornered or threatened dogs.

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