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StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 01:03 PM Jun 2023

What a horrible way to go.

What a horrible way to go. They must have had such trepidation about boarding the vessel in the first place. Imagine their fear as they realized it's about to break apart and kill them. Their bodies may never be recovered.

Five hundred migrants were lost at sea. That's a real tragedy. 😢

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What a horrible way to go. (Original Post) StrictlyRockers Jun 2023 OP
Also, some crazy, rich billionaires died being stupid. StrictlyRockers Jun 2023 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Recycle_Guru Jun 2023 #2
Ok, I'll admit it. You got me. Ray Bruns Jun 2023 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 Jun 2023 #4
I imagine the carbon fiber construction The Unmitigated Gall Jun 2023 #5
Actually, it was a very quick way to go. cloudbase Jun 2023 #6
I feel for the kid. His father pressured him into going. no_hypocrisy Jun 2023 #7
I thought about this all through the week MissMillie Jun 2023 #8
Well done malaise Jun 2023 #9
They are of the wrong color to get much coverage here Kaleva Jun 2023 #10
I think the real overlooked part of this tragedy: Initech Jun 2023 #11
Nobody has jurisdiction localroger Jun 2023 #12

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The Unmitigated Gall

(3,836 posts)
5. I imagine the carbon fiber construction
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 01:28 PM
Jun 2023

Didn’t give much warning before breaking up like a bomb exploding inward.

I would have liked that CEO to have had a few moments to reflect on the above-Sophoclean hubris that was ending his life.
-Firing and suing the officer who raised safety issues within the company.
-Ignoring the submersible community’s written concerns and recommendations for certification and testing.
-Running the business outside the zone of governmental jurisdiction, avoiding THAT aspect of safety oversight and regulation.
-Declaring that “safety at some point becomes a waste”.

Oh well. Hundreds of people fleeing desperate circumstances did die and that is the much larger tragedy.

cloudbase

(5,525 posts)
6. Actually, it was a very quick way to go.
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 01:39 PM
Jun 2023

They died before they were even aware of anything going wrong. There are no bodies to recover.
With the possible exception of the young son, everybody willingly got into the vessel.

The migrants were a tragedy, but so were the people on the Titan, though I have considerably less sympathy for them/

MissMillie

(38,583 posts)
8. I thought about this all through the week
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 01:47 PM
Jun 2023

And part of me was hoping that it happened the way that it did.

The thought of 5 people, enclosed, deep in the ocean, no food or water, FOR DAYS... knowing that there was limited oxygen.... sounded awful.


Don't get me wrong... it's a tragedy. The only comfort in this is that it happened very quickly.

Initech

(100,107 posts)
11. I think the real overlooked part of this tragedy:
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 02:06 PM
Jun 2023

Is how Oceangate was able to skirt around government safety regulations for nearly 2 decades with an extremely poorly constructed vessel. Quite frankly, I'm absolutely shocked that something like this didn't happen sooner. Reading about how poorly constructed that vessel was, that thing was a disaster waiting to happen. This whole incident was the product of deregulated, disaster capitalism. And those are the people who should be punished for this disaster, but won't be.

localroger

(3,633 posts)
12. Nobody has jurisdiction
Fri Jun 23, 2023, 02:22 PM
Jun 2023

Submersibles don't have a port where they need to register. They are just cargo until the mothership (which in this case was rented) drops the submersible into international waters. What rules? Who would enforce them? The open sea is a pretty lawless place compared to just about every square inch of land (except maybe inland Antarctica).

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