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GoneOffShore

(17,341 posts)
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 02:39 PM Jun 2023

Practical politics and Democrats - We've got some strengths and we've got some weaknesses

I found this column by Chris Satullo, who has some serious progressive credentials, and has been seeking to build consensus between diverse groups.

He said this about where we are today -

Early this week, just before he hopped aboard his Marine One chopper, Joe Biden talked to a press gaggle about the debt ceiling deal he’d struck with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy......

snip:

“Look, one of the things that I hear some of you guys saying is, ‘Why doesn’t Biden say what a good deal it is?’ Why would Biden say what a good deal it is before the vote? You think that’s going to help me get it passed? No. That’s why you guys don’t bargain very well…You guys, you realize you’re not in the real world?”

Biden was gently mocking the media reps, who deserved it. But he could just as easily have said all that about the progressive wing of his party.




Satullo goes on to suggest that we take four things as being self-evident truths - and then breaks down why we should reconsider them and deal with changing our approach.


1. Twitter is an accurate mirror of America.
2. “People of color” will soon become a cohesive and stable political majority.
3. No. 2 is a good thing, because progressives are good while the other side is evil and must be stopped.
4. Thus, compromise is always wrong. It is a sign of weakness and fuzzy old thinking.

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Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
1. Chris Satullo used to be the editorial page editor of
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 02:50 PM
Jun 2023

the Philadelphia Inquirer. He is a determined centrist and believer in civic involvement. In 1999, he ran a project called "Citizen Voices" that consisted of discussion groups from every corner of Philadelphia County. The idea was develop a comprehensive plan for the upcoming mayoral election (won by John Street).

Deminpenn

(15,290 posts)
3. Thought Street was a good mayor
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 03:22 PM
Jun 2023

and the right man for the job at that time. Warm and fuzzy he was not though.

KPN

(15,662 posts)
9. Meh. Satullo's got it wrong, beginning with his broad generalization that
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 04:48 PM
Jun 2023

progressives take those four things as “self-evident truths”. None of those things are self-evident or truths. He’s a centrist trying to save a falling apart middle — a middle in fact that no longer exists.

GoneOffShore

(17,341 posts)
10. It looks to me as if he's trying to bring perspective and some sanity to the table.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 04:55 PM
Jun 2023

And did you read the entire piece?

KPN

(15,662 posts)
11. I did. That's fine that he may be trying to do that.
Sun Jun 4, 2023, 06:39 PM
Jun 2023

To me, his whole argument is based on faulty assumptions. I don’t think progressives as a whole are saying never compromise for example. I also don’t think they are all saying all Rs are evil, yet he generalizes to that effect. He has a simplistic view in my opinion.

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