Ron DeSantis' Lawyers Asked To Define "Woke" And The Result Is A Gem

[LetMyPeopleVote]

Here is the official legal definition of the term "woke" according to DeathSantis' attorneys

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https://www.pride.com/politics/desantis-woke#rebelltitem1

It is hard to believe they could say this without questioning themselves, but this actually happened. Florida's Stop WOKE Act that DeSantis brought to life made it it illegal for anyone who takes state money, including teachers and most college professors, to espouse that unquestionably accurate belief.

“DeSantis' lawyers were forced by the court to define "woke." The lead lawyer described it as "The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them." https://t.co/O5HGJuJIay”

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

1. Legal definition of Woke ... provided by ... Gov Desantis

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[NullTuples]

8. DeSantis steals a line from Musk - you *know* they lunch together when Elon visits Cape Canaveral

[Bluethroughu]

48. So throw out the First Amendment because who needs a Bill of Rights,

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
https://constitution.congress.gov

U.S. Constitution - First Amendment | Resources | Library of Congress

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

2. It is hard to believe that DeSantis went to Ivy League schools.

Of course, back then, "woke" meant you got up for a morning class.

[raging moderate]

5. Yes, the grammar in his definition of "Woke" is very poor.

The definition of "Woke" released by the lead lawyer is fairly accurate but very poorly phrased.

[ancianita]

13. Racist DeSatan knows very well where "woke" comes from. Black people know he is mocking them;

they know that's what all this "Florida is where woke comes to die" shit is about.

It's the DeSatan white supremacy dog whistle, and some judge had better figure that out.

[raging moderate]

26. Yes, DeSatan is a good name for him!

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White supremacists have taken over the Republican Party. Recently, all the Republicans on a committeee refused to approve a condemnation of white supremacy. This was no accident. The modern Republican Party is like something I read about in biology class long ago, a circumstance in which a wasp somehow overcomes a caterpillar and wounds it and lays eggs inside, which gradually grow by consuming the caterpillar until it is only a shell of its former self.

[ancianita]

28. ...

Wow, you remember that from biology. Cool imagery that suits this situation.

[Meadowoak]

10. DeSantis talks like he has a special ed. Education, I'd like to see his ivy league transcripts.

[pnwmom]

12. He's imitating his followers. nt

[Meadowoak]

14. I'd still like to see his transcripts, he doesn't strike me as intelligent at all.

I wonder if he had any classes with George Devolder Santos?

[Mariana]

34. Pnwmom is right, he's playing to his audience.

He knows that if he speaks as if he's educated, it will turn them off.

[Lucky Luciano]

37. Nah. He does actually have a very strong intellect like Ted Cruz

So, he is very dangerous actually and much more highly motivated than that orange bag of shit.

[pnwmom]

47. "Nah"? That's what I'm saying. His intellect is strong but he imitates

his followers' style of speech, to ally himself with them.

[Lucky Luciano]

65. I was agreeing with you.

Your post reads like you thought maybe I replied to you possibly? I’ve done that before!

[pnwmom]

66. Yes, I made that mistake. Sorry! n/t

[Oppaloopa]

57. Yes maybe he is like DeSantos

[paleotn]

16. So did Ted Cruz. Princeton.

JD Vance, Yale. Elise Stefanik, Harvard. John Kennedy, a Vanderbilt and UVA grad, received a law degree from Magdalen College - Oxford. Yes, that Oxford. Seems one will find at least a handful of fascist assholes in every group, even the Ivies.

[Arazi]

20. He totally knows what it means

He’s just cravenly co-opting this culture war trope to try to pry off some of #Traitor’s cult.

He’s a despicable shit and entirely dangerous

[Pacifist Patriot]

51. According to numerous friends and colleagues...

Who went to Ivy League schools, the only hard part is getting in and paying for it. You can get a great education or coast and still get a degree. I honestly don't know how true that is from personal experience, but DeSatan and Cruz are making me wonder!

[Alexander Of Assyria]

54. Getting in is one hard part. Very hard. Paying for it is a second hard part.

These guys are extremely smart, extremely without morales, and extremely able, to pretend they are as stupid as the votes they chase.

All of which is known to their racist, fascist corporate and Rich donors.

[The Wizard]

60. Appealing to bigotry has been

Repubic political currency since LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act in 1964 and 65. Back then it was under the guise of States Rights (code for restoring Jim Crow segregation laws).
They really want to legalize slavery but can't say it out loud.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

63. Well educated bigots are the worst kind!

[rubbersole]

3. The lawyer's definition and meatball's inference are diametrically at odds with each other.

Somehow this isn't going to be the only thing that bites ronnie in the ass. The repub debates are going to so popcorn 🍿 worthy...

[Raven123]

6. I'm not so sure

Could it be that the lawyers are saying exactly what DeSantis believes. They disagree that there are systemic injustices and policies addressing them are unnecessary. Worse, they delude themselves into believing that addressing those injustices is an injustice itself

[brush]

4. Only an idiot could disagree with their own definition of what "woke" is.

It's simple truth that there are systemic injustices in society that need to be addressed.

Duh!

This is going to be an albatross around DeSantis' neck during the campaign and debates especially.

[Lovie777]

7. History, Arithmetic, English, Reading, Science, Biology, etc.....................

will still be taught, if not in red states, but in homes.

It will be taught that during slavery times and thereafter, it was against the law to teach Blacks how to read. But that did not stop them from learning.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

9. I am proud to be woke

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[Lonestarblue]

11. We should start defining anti-woke as the Republican belief that there are systemic injustices in

society, but since they do not affect rich people there is no need to address them.

[EmmaLee E]

31. Great Definition!

Please come up with a concise, catchy way to say it.

[rubbersole]

36. Screw the poors.

[Lonestarblue]

41. Anti-woke: Systemic injustices exist, but we Republicans prefer to ignore them.

[jmowreader]

62. Mel Brooks came up with that LONG ago

[Rhiagel]

15. Wait... What?

Does this mean he is FOR NOT addressing injustices? What a little privileged buffoon!

[paleotn]

19. You've got them perfectly.

They don't mind injustice. In fact, they thrive on it. Gets them elected. That's exactly what their base wants to bring back. First half of the 20th century injustice, because in that world, white people don't have to compete equitably with everyone else. They expect a certain level of deference simply for winning the birth lottery. Something justice and tolerance doesn't allow. The heart of the maga right in my mind.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

38. No, he is not for not addressing injustices.

He is for exploiting injustices for his own gain.

[Fritz Walter]

17. No duh!

As in "No, DuhSantis!"

Just another item to add to my list of nicknames for FloriDuh's* Goober(nor), including:

- Ron DeRacist -- after his dog-whistle comment "The last thing we need to do is monkey this up..." HuffPo
- Ron DeathSentence -- because of all the thousands who died needlessly during the pandemic (including my next-door neighbor)
...

Et cetera, et cetera, ad nauseum
The list grows longer every day.

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* For the record, I've lived in Florida ever since 1992. Voted in every election, primary and general. Financially supported Democratic candidates consistently. Not planning to leave,... for now.

[czarjak]

18. How many other Ivy Leaguer's first job was teaching?

[erronis]

21. So much of this very interesting post (and comments) is composed of twits.

Thanks to everyone who added a bit of context to the included twits.

I, for one, am not going to click on each and every twit (into a private window with lots of blocking going on) just to get the complete story.

It's sort of like the NYT or any other news source just supplying a list of twits to get content. Loonie Musk must be xstatic.

[RussBLib]

22. So much? The OP and 2 of the 21 comments...

3 out of 21 is not excessive, IMHO.

Besides, you don't even have to click the links/tweets to get the relevant info.

I think Ronda Santis is proud of his denial of systemic injustice. And he obviously sees no need to address any such mythical injustice.

And how many Republicans will agree? Now that Ronda Santis lawyers have defined it for them?

[Captain Zero]

25. How can a black Republican agree with that?

Since he thinks it's a belief can I claim it as a religious tenet of my faith in God?

[erronis]

29. Thanks, RussBLib. I have all twitter domains on a site block to prevent them from tracking eyeballs.

The images/text that appear when you are viewing the twitter link go to "twimg.com" These are also being tracked by Musk (and who knows who he works for.)

I know it's my problem. I should not be so paranoid or protective of my privacy. That's what they want us to believe.

[republianmushroom]

23. Were these attorneys lips moving.

Then they were lying.

[Aussie105]

24. Great fun though!

Taking a common word and redefining it to mean whatever, then using it to confuse your audience.

Even better if you use a multi-word phrase and redefine that, even I can do this.

eg

Pre-Humanoid Life Form = anyone whose politics don't agree with mine, someone out to feather his own nest at the detriment of others, a nasty, cruel human being.

Evolved Life Form = anyone who has empathy, works for the general good of the people around him irrespective of political affiliation.

And then use abreviations to describe various people!

eg
Desantis? A real PHLF!
Biden? He is an ELF!

Result? Only your inner circle knows what you mean, others just got to wonder.

Fortunately for my sanity, the English language doesn't allow doing that, it breaks all linguistic standards.

'Woke' will always mean 'waking up from sleep' to me. Transitioning to consciousness, becoming aware of your environment.
And it's a good thing, helps to be woke if you walk at a traffic crossing or drive a car.

[SouthernDem4ever]

27. So sick of the word "belief"

How about saying there is "evidence" of systemic injustices. DUH

[calimary]

30. Me too! I don't want to know what somebody believes.

I want to know the evidence and the facts. Only the verifiable evidence and objective facts need apply.

[EYESORE 9001]

32. They say that like it's a bad thing

Only a fascist would make its discussion a criminal offense.

[judesedit]

33. I'd say that's a pretty good description, actually

[SomedayKindaLove]

55. Indeed

Judge should have asked them to define racism since few on the right seem to understand that as well.

[judesedit]

59. x1000

You are right

[FloridaBlues]

35. That seems to be legalese talk by their answer and says nothing

[Martin68]

39. This is a very positive development. I can hardly believe his lawyers would offer such a positive

and undeniably true definition, even from a conservative point of view. It pulls the rug out from under De Sanctimonious and his anti-woke campaign.

[DownriverDem]

40. My question

is why can't we just live our lives? The government should play no role in any cultural war.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

42. Would their law not also apply to Florida legislators on State payroll?

Republicans are always contending that the wealthy and corporations are treated unfairly and with prejudice due to regulations and taxes. That would make them woke to that belief, in contrast to liberals.

So therefore under their Woke Act, that common belief among Republicans would be illegal in Florida.


KY.......

[LetMyPeopleVote]

43. 10 Symptoms of the Woke Mind Virus

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[keithbvadu2]

44. Ashli Babbit bragged that she was 'woke'.

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[Cha]

45. Yeah your Florida is dead

Asleep 💤 deFascist fuckface

[ShazzieB]

46. So THAT'S what "woke" means!

DeSantis' lawyers were forced by the court to define "woke." The lead lawyer described it as "The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them."

Systemic injustices...in American society? The horror! How dare anyone suggest that America the beautiful, home of the brave and land of the free, is not 100% perfect! Quick, somebody throw me some pearls so that I can clutch them tightly, because I am SHOCKED and OFFENDED to the innermost core of my being!

[NowISeetheLight]

49. Systemic Injustice

OK… I looked up official definitions of “systemic injustice” since the DeSatan definition segways to that.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/philosophy/article/systemic-and-structural-injustice-is-there-a-difference/15422EA9F2A48BD0E30825D8D24DA285

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/systemic-injustice

https://news.stanford.edu/2022/02/01/examining-systemic-racism-advancing-racial-equity/

So let’s imagine a court case or something where it is proven. Maybe that’s the next step. Prove it, then that will negate the DeSatan argument completely.

[mwb970]

50. Everything these morons call "woke" sounds like a GOOD thing to me.

It's like listening to mentally ill people whining and sobbing about blue skies, puppy dogs and apple pie.

[twodogsbarking]

52. They seem to be saying they don't know what it is but beware of it.

Like UFOs

[Emile]

53. Still means one is not asleep.

[Orrex]

56. Self-own.

[ratchiweenie]

58. The attorney definition is actually a good one. The sad truth is they and DeSatan don't

intend to do anything about it. In fact, they intend to fight any initiative that might help eliminate that system of injustices because they are the beneficiaries of it.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

61. Fox News is not happy that 56% have a positive view of the word woke.

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[jmowreader]

64. Yeah, that sounds about right

DeSantis’ position: Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. You have no bootstraps because you can’t afford boots. If you somehow get boots I will cut the straps off. If someone opens a bootstrap replacement service we will put it out of business. If you find some belts and try to turn them into bootstraps I will put you in jail for stealing belts, even if you got a job and earned the money to buy them. If someone opens a school to teach people how to make bootstraps out of broken fan belts I will find a reason to put the teachers in prison. I will do everything I can think of to keep you from pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps, but you’ve got to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

67. "Woke" is also a nonsense term.

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

68. This interview guest admits she can't define "woke" but wants to fight against it.

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

69. Absolute evisceration of the GOP's confusing and meaningless "woke" obsession by @jrpsaki .

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