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Doodley

(9,136 posts)
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:42 AM Mar 2023

Would Putin withdraw from Ukraine, in exchange for Trump handing over USA?

Could this scenario happen? Trump declares victory in negotiating Putin's retreat from Ukraine. This helps Trump win the election. In exchange, Trump turns America into a fascist state with Putin pulling the strings.

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Would Putin withdraw from Ukraine, in exchange for Trump handing over USA? (Original Post) Doodley Mar 2023 OP
Maybe we'll find out. dchill Mar 2023 #1
Not a chance. rubbersole Mar 2023 #2
No. nt Celerity Mar 2023 #3
If Trump were to be elected POTUS in the future Dan Mar 2023 #4
First, explain what it would mean for the US to be turned over to Putin? onenote Mar 2023 #10
My limited understanding of Russian domestic politics is totally incompatible with this hypothesis. RockRaven Mar 2023 #5
The GOP has already handed over the US to Putin. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #6
Garbage onenote Mar 2023 #9
I know what it is like in communist countries. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #12
Which communist countries "hunt" down women? onenote Mar 2023 #14
Where does the fantasy that POTUS can try anything he wants and it will work come from? dutch777 Mar 2023 #7
+1 onenote Mar 2023 #8
Did you miss how close we came to Trump overthrowing our Democracy? If a handful of individuals Doodley Mar 2023 #11
Nonsense. brush Mar 2023 #13
LOL beaglelover Mar 2023 #15

Dan

(3,580 posts)
4. If Trump were to be elected POTUS in the future
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:14 AM
Mar 2023

What law would prevent such an action?

I suspect that the GOP would be all in and would support said action.

But, basic question - what in our laws would prevent such an action?

onenote

(42,769 posts)
10. First, explain what it would mean for the US to be turned over to Putin?
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:26 PM
Mar 2023

Would Congress be dissolved? Would all the courts and state legislatures be exterminated? What a bunch of nonsense.

RockRaven

(15,013 posts)
5. My limited understanding of Russian domestic politics is totally incompatible with this hypothesis.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 03:34 AM
Mar 2023

Russian shit is driving what Russia/Putin is doing. America's president has got very little to do with it, same with changing America's president.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
9. Garbage
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:25 PM
Mar 2023

That's my opinion of your post.

I don't feel like I live in a "Russian colony" at all. I doubt you have idea what it is like to live in a Russian Colony (whatever that actually is)

Irish_Dem

(47,453 posts)
12. I know what it is like in communist countries.
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 02:37 PM
Mar 2023

I have spent time in such a place.

Here in the US females are being hunted down right now.

And denied basic rights. Sent to jail or left to die.

Reminds me of Communist countries for sure.

onenote

(42,769 posts)
14. Which communist countries "hunt" down women?
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 06:39 PM
Mar 2023

Presumably you're talking about abortion.
And apart from the recent South Carolina example, how many other women have been "sent to jail or left to die"?
And where?



dutch777

(3,044 posts)
7. Where does the fantasy that POTUS can try anything he wants and it will work come from?
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 11:22 AM
Mar 2023

I guess if one has no clue that the Federal government is not just POTUS but actually a large collection of elected and unelected officials that have all taken oaths to the Constitution and to govern in the interests of the people, maybe then these conspiracy theories could have some validity. It is always amazing in the election cycle when someone says they are going to vote for Candidate XYZ because they will lower taxes or stop foreign aid or whatever. Things that ACTUALLY take the action of Congress, maybe the blessing of SCOTUS or a myriad of actions of the vast government establishment to become policy or a new direction. Whatever that Putin/Trump thing is, why didn't it happen when he was already Prez? Sheesh!

Doodley

(9,136 posts)
11. Did you miss how close we came to Trump overthrowing our Democracy? If a handful of individuals
Sun Mar 5, 2023, 12:38 PM
Mar 2023

had been Trump stooges, America could be looking very different right now. This isn't a conspiracy theory. It is something that almost happened. We have no idea what went down between Trump and Putin, how many government secrets Trump gave away, or what may have been the intentions during what may have been assumed to be Trump's second term win.

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