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Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:06 PM Dec 2022

Why, oh why did I vote for Kyrsten Sinema in the first place?

The little backstabber!

Ok, I kinda know. She talked a good game. I really thought she was a Democrat.

But then she started showing her true colors after the election. And now this!

We got to do some hunting for a candidate to get that seat blue again.

She needs to be ran out of the state! Let her go to Texas or Missouri if she likes Republicans so much.

She has become a traitor to Arizona and the Democratic party!

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Why, oh why did I vote for Kyrsten Sinema in the first place? (Original Post) Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2022 OP
yep. I voted for her as well. I won't again. but,,,, KarenS Dec 2022 #1
If she does, it better not be in Arizona! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2022 #5
I doubt that unless the Republicans essentially promised her the nomination karynnj Dec 2022 #9
So you regret she defeated her republican opponent in 2018? onenote Dec 2022 #2
Calling people dumb is disrespectful. flying_wahini Dec 2022 #6
Sadly, being disrespectful to those who disagree with one's opinion Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #7
Irony is dead Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #24
Sure you want to go there? Scrivener7 Dec 2022 #25
See Post #30. LOL. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #26
I didn't call the poster dumb. I called their statement dumb. onenote Dec 2022 #8
She ran a con game! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2022 #10
She had one primary opponent. Who got 21 percent of the vote onenote Dec 2022 #13
We still ended up with a Republican in sheeps clothing! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2022 #14
We ended up with a Senator who made it possible for Biden to get a record number of judges confirmed onenote Dec 2022 #22
I assume you voted for her to help pave the way for us taking back the Senate in 2020 Celerity Dec 2022 #3
I voted for her in the primary because she seemed to believe in the same ideas! Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2022 #12
ahh, the primary vote. Sorry, I misunderstood Celerity Dec 2022 #17
She certainly stabbed you people in the back. Kath2 Dec 2022 #4
I gave her money:( Anyway Ruben Gallegos is a head of her in polls like 16-74% mahina Dec 2022 #11
I have to say she is one of the most craven politicians I've seen. liberalmuse Dec 2022 #15
We don't need any more shit politicians here in Texas...thank you 😁 Sinema is walkingman Dec 2022 #16
Not your fault. you got misled by a sharp grifter. Rueben Gallego in 2024. marble falls Dec 2022 #18
He won't win statewide I fear. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #21
Learning by experience with a U.S. senator is definitely not the best way, Hortensis Dec 2022 #19
Better than voting GOP. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #20
+1 onenote Dec 2022 #23
Because without her... Biden doesn't appoint KBJ to SCOTUS. WarGamer Dec 2022 #27

KarenS

(4,089 posts)
1. yep. I voted for her as well. I won't again. but,,,,
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:09 PM
Dec 2022

srsly I do not think she will run again. Miz Lobby-ist here she comes.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
5. If she does, it better not be in Arizona!
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:14 PM
Dec 2022

She says she's an independent for now but she is going to announce she's a Republican when 2024 comes around.
Just you watch! Little backstabber.

Bet she was going to say she was now a Republican if there was a red wave. But it didn't happen so she is taking the long road to that announcement.

karynnj

(59,507 posts)
9. I doubt that unless the Republicans essentially promised her the nomination
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:32 PM
Dec 2022

if she switched now would it make sense. Then she starts the race as the Republican incumbent.

Even then, as Senator Spector's experience shows, the Senate Republicans can not prevent a primary challenge. Where Spector was actually reasonably well liked and respected in PA and would very likely have won the general election that Joe Sestack lost, Sinema comes with high negatives. This is true for independents, Democrats and Republicans.

Given this year's Republican primaries, there is no way she does not get a far right, Republican challenger, like Kari Lake, who would beat her in the primary.

It seems what she is gambling on is the Senate Democrats endorsing her.

onenote

(42,794 posts)
2. So you regret she defeated her republican opponent in 2018?
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:11 PM
Dec 2022

That's incredibly dumb.

Yes Sinema can be, has been, and will be a pain in the ass. But without her election in 2018, the Democrats don't have 50 votes in the Senate last year. Biden's dozens of judicial nominations (which Sinema supported) don't get confirmed.

She's still going to caucus with the Democrats, so nothing changes for the next two years.

Scrivener7

(51,059 posts)
7. Sadly, being disrespectful to those who disagree with one's opinion
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:24 PM
Dec 2022

seems to be becoming the norm here.

Somehow, "I disagree" doesn't seem to work for people anymore.

But good on you for saying it.

onenote

(42,794 posts)
8. I didn't call the poster dumb. I called their statement dumb.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:28 PM
Dec 2022

Even smart people make dumb statements sometimes.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
10. She ran a con game!
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:32 PM
Dec 2022

We had others running in the primaries! But she made herself sound good.
She got in and became no better than she who I will not name.

Basically we voted for the Republican without even knowing!

We got coned.

If she was honest she would not be in that set!

onenote

(42,794 posts)
13. She had one primary opponent. Who got 21 percent of the vote
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:37 PM
Dec 2022

and would have been destroyed by the Republican candidate if she had been the nominee.

And if for no other reason than her support for every Biden judicial nominee, we got a big win over the republicans by electing her.

onenote

(42,794 posts)
22. We ended up with a Senator who made it possible for Biden to get a record number of judges confirmed
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 02:24 PM
Dec 2022

Do you think that would have happened if McSally had been elected?

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,120 posts)
12. I voted for her in the primary because she seemed to believe in the same ideas!
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:36 PM
Dec 2022

If I knew then that she was just another con I would have voted for one of the others in the primaries.

She has done everything she who I will not name said she was going to do!

We unknowingly voted for a Republican!

Celerity

(43,627 posts)
17. ahh, the primary vote. Sorry, I misunderstood
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:42 PM
Dec 2022

Deedra Abboud was the only other Dem then

not sure if she could have won in the general, so there is that

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
15. I have to say she is one of the most craven politicians I've seen.
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:39 PM
Dec 2022

And considering where she is, that's saying something. Lieberman had nothing on her.

walkingman

(7,673 posts)
16. We don't need any more shit politicians here in Texas...thank you 😁 Sinema is
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:40 PM
Dec 2022

just an opportunist who used the combination of her gender, sexual orientation, and phoney environmentalism to get elected and now after showing her true colors knows that she will be primaried in 2024 so she is "showing her ass".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Learning by experience with a U.S. senator is definitely not the best way,
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 01:58 PM
Dec 2022

but I earned my lesson an even worse way.

Although I didn't favor Carter in the primary, I didn't know enough to be alarmed and ended up cluelessly satisfied to vote for him in the GE because I hadn't learned by experience or by doing my homework. (Hey, I was having too much fun crawling around with my babies for all that.)

Although I really didn't believe GA Governor Carter that Democrats in congress needed him to clean up their "corruption," I was far too inexperienced to recognize his classically deceitful and negative "reform candidacy" as one of the huge, flaming warning signs of a outsider populist campaign -- being waged by someone who was universally rejected as the wrong material by Democrats who knew him. To whom normal paths to office were closed for cause.

If more of us had just done a little homework, the final hurrah of our magnificent New Deal era wouldn't have taken place as a small-government/economic conservative president battling the Democratic controlled, progressive-minded congress we gave him. A Democratic trifecta -- just think what we could have accomplished if we'd elected one of several progressive Democratic candidates experienced in national government.

As a mistake, Sinema is very small potatoes in comparison. Though we'd mostly agree that learning with much less powerful, more quickly replaced positions would be desirable, learning by personal experience at all is the absolute WORST way.

onenote

(42,794 posts)
23. +1
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 02:26 PM
Dec 2022

Seems like a few don't fully appreciate that while Sinema can be and will be a pain in the ass, she is light years better than McSally, Lake or Masters.

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