My right-wing boss who predicted a red tsunami yesterday said

[Mortos]

...the election results last night were like a kick in the balls.

That, friends is a win for Democrats and democracy.

Do the Debbie Downers posting here today not realize that what was predicted was a Republican landslide based on history and polling and what happened was the Democratic Party held its own and overperformed expectations, even Eeyore-like predictions from Democrats? Red wave, more like a red ripple.

Democrats won governor seats in three states formerly held by Republicans. We won the Pennsylvania senate seat after Fetterman was torn down by everyone, including his own party, for his debate performance. Maggie Hassan (NH), Michael Bennet (CO), and Patty Murray (WA) easily defeated their Republican challengers in races predicted to be close. and The House is still competitive. We will probably hold onto the Senate, which means President Biden can nominate federal judges and have them confirmed, including any vacancies in the Supreme Court (come on, arteriosclerosis). Even a slight win in the House by Republicans should chastise them and keep them from going nuts with conspiracy theory investigations. Any bullshit impeachment quests are probably off the table, thanks to these results.

AND it looks like Lauren Boebert will lose her seat.

Finally, Trump and his gallery of cretins lost BIGLY! And because they did, Trumplestiltskin will go "death con 3" on Desantis, tearing apart the Republican party during the next presidential primary. He will actively undermine Desantis and turn his crazy cult against him. Trump will announce his run within a week. He will make it his quest to destroy Desantis, who appears to be the right-wing nutty heir apparent based on his successes in Florida. Trump loves vendettas and is "screaming at everyone" after last night's election results. He needs to work on his nickname for Ron, though; DeSanctimonious has six syllables; his cult of morons, imbeciles, and lunatics can't pronounce that many in one word. Watching Trumplicans unleashed on Desantis in Florida is going to be delicious.

Great fucking night for Democrats. Take the W!

[fightforfreedom]

1. I agree, the Traitors lost yesterday. Democracy won.

The Trump cult is shrinking, like all cults do.

[KS Toronado]

30. Yes, his cult is shrinking

Last night election results proved it!

[calimary]

61. And he'll keep milking it and spinning it for his own purposes

and he will absolutely NOT do what they all would give their eye teeth for: to go AWAY.

He’s still around… to weigh them down!

And we can and should USE that.

[sop]

81. Trump the millstone will be very useful for Democrats.

Maybe we need to support Trump, much like the DNC strategy of supporting extremist MAGA candidates in the 2022 GOP primaries:

"It's crazy like a fox: Why Democrats have poured millions into a risky strategy elevating MAGA Republicans"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/democrats-risky-strategy-elevating-maga-republicans

[calimary]

95. Gotta say I was SERIOUSLY leery of this strategy.

Part of me still is, but then again, I can be somewhat risk-averse.

But it does seem to have worked. Can’t argue with that.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

2. Thanks for this great post!

[JanLip]

13. Me too!!!

😁😁

[griffi94]

3. I agree

I think everything you said is pretty spot on.
Trump should call DeSantis.....DeSuckis

[Mortos]

4. That nickname

is much more on brand for Trump.

[griffi94]

5. Thanks.....I think lol

[Whatthe_Firetruck]

53. More like...

... DeSuckit.

[Johnny2X2X]

6. Hear here!!!!

Worse case scenario right now is a 51-49 GOP Senate and a 220-215 House. Those would still be a good day for Dems.

Most likely scenario is a 50-50 Dem Senate and a 218-217 GOP House. That's an amazing night for Dems.

Best case scenario for Dems is a 51-49 Dem Senate and a 219-216 Dem House which would be monumental.

And this isn't even taking into account the state races that went our way. It was an amazing night for Dems last night in the states.

[ProfessorGAC]

27. 220-215 Gives Me Hope

The worse than expected outcome (for them) might make some non-crazy Rs realize the extremist, agree on nothing sentiment is: a) not as popular as they thought, and; b) the base has less clout than believed.
Playing to the crazies might not be a winning strategy & it only takes a few to become more compromising & conciliatory to get things done.
They certainly don't have the votes to go after SS & Medicare now. It takes only 3 defectors for the bill to be defeated.

[calimary]

60. And we can USE that.

As we should.

This is not a big loss, especially compared to what was widely expected by “those in the know.” Turns out they didn’t know all that much.

ALWAYS a good thing to be underestimated! It can destabilize the enemy.

And then if memory serves, the last time the GOP took the House, they didn’t get much done, and if they spend their time fighting with each other, THAT is something we can run on, in two years.

[True Blue American]

90. You could say the media

Gave Democrats a boost by their fear, fear tactics! I love it!

[Moostache]

7. My favorite note of the night?

Boebert being shown the door after 2 years of inanity the likes of which the nation has rarely seen.

I guess "the plan" from gawd does not include keeping her at the grifting trough after all...so happy to hear that and hoping the numbers hold up to rid our body politic of that particular boil on its ass.

[Jskudris55]

10. Ummm I don't think that's been called

No reputable source has called the race

[groundloop]

8. Boebert losing her seat was SWEET!!!!

Now so long as Georgia can defeat that idiot ex football player.

[Jskudris55]

11. Has she?

No one has called it

[Rebl2]

72. Not that

I am aware

[gldstwmn]

40. Not only did we get rid of Boober, we legalized mushrooms.

Colorado has become mighty progressive. Wack job Ken Buck kept his seat with 60% of the vote if that makes any of the lurkers feel better. I don't know if we can ever get rid of him but I'll take all the W's today.

[whopis01]

92. Its a 64 vote difference and they are still counting

It is going to be a while and a recount before that election is called.

[gldstwmn]

96. Uh huh.

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=ot-r0BPgTmQGisk-BMFdxQ

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=ot-r0BPgTmQGisk-BMFdxQ

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=ot-r0BPgTmQGisk-BMFdxQ

[SheltieLover]

9. Dems will prevail when the dust settles.

Hold the vision & buckle up for the battle over the House!

🏄?♀️ 🏄?♂️

[plimsoll]

12. Sorry feels more like Dunkirk than a win.

We’ll be able to fight on, but it’s not exactly a win, a deliverance perhaps.

[bahboo]

29. I'm with you...

[gldstwmn]

42. Democracy lives to fight another day. The losses of Mastriano and probably Lake a very, very good

signs. We were supposed to lose in a big way. If anything, this is an endorsement that Biden can truly build on for '24.

[Captain Zero]

74. In 24 Biden can run against the crazy of the new assholes

And on his record, both.

[LeftInTX]

85. Yeah, it's not a win

It wasn't a "bad loss", but even if there is only a one seat GOP majority in the House, they will control everything.

We saw some victories in some state races where I feel we made gains.

[TeamProg]

14. KEEP KICKING !!

[malthaussen]

15. I think a GOP House will impeach Mr Biden.

Just for the fun of it, it won't go anywhere. Just for revenge for Donald Trump being impeached, if for no other reason.

-- Mal

[Harker]

16. Three times. n/t

[malthaussen]

17. LOL, yeah, that would make perfect sense...

... for a given value of "sense."

-- Mal

[fishwax]

21. I think if they have a three or four vote majority they're going to have a hard enough time picking

a speaker let alone rallying behind an article of impeachment. There will be investigations, I'm sure. But I think an actual impeachment is going to be a big boulder to push up a long hill.

[calimary]

63. And we can and should USE that.

Anything that will help the dispirited mood and n that side of the aisle will serve us well.

WHAT “landslide”??? They barely got a small mud-flow.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

76. Yes... MTG has already written up articles. I don't think

They can raise impeachment without a majority agreeing can they ? There might be a handful of Rs who say hell no.

[jaxexpat]

18. This "Debbie downer" sees it as barely escaping by the skin of our teeth.

It would have been a Win-Win but for our tepid and MAGA burdened DOJ. Go ahead and give the house to the Republicans and, if it's not too disastrous, we may have another election in 2 years. But if we rely on the good actions and good will of the people without informing them fully of the bad actions and bad will of the Republicans what will our excuse be when they strengthen their hold then?

And it looks like MTG didn't lose her seat.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

77. Very good points. But at least we've killed some of the roaches eh?

Do feel an ever so slight vindication of MAGA don't you? Although, hell we don't even know if we keep the Senate yet.

I do find it curious that there's not more discussion about the#1 issue... Inflation
. It's very important to not lose sight of the fact that millions are hurting and hungry and can't pay bills. But evidently, there's nothing anyone can do? But wait it out?

[jaxexpat]

88. I've been told how totally wrong I am, but.............

I still see inflation as simple price gouging in a vacuum created by temporary shortages. The markets realign with surprising quickness, but their duration is controlled by the same forces, efficiencies, which contribute to the realignment. As this point, inflation is being artificially sustained by middlemen who are taking windfalls from panic pricing opportunities they have a hand in generating.

There was one guy who agreed, Joe Biden, and he pretty much told the producers of petroleum products, for instance, to stop with the artificial scarcity and the unnecessary punishment it was bringing to regular consumers. Unfortunately, they were still nursing the damage to their control of the world's energy prices inflicted by his totally reasonable domestic drilling restrictions and don't give a damn what a Democratic president thinks is patriotic or not. The same could be said of international shipping concerns who stand to go broke or get "really" well as they scramble, reacting to new markets created by filling shortages created by geopolitical shenanigans.

I see the solution to inflation as the same solution to government corruption. Enforce current laws. White collar criminals and the wealthy/powerful can sit in prison cells just like rapists, thieves and murderers. Unfortunately, the equivocation which currently suffices for legal theory up and down our justice spectrum does not allow for interpretation or enforcement of statutes in ways which may cause the feathers of entrenched bureaucrats and energy dons to ruffle.

So whuddawedo? Take it, until we can't.

[Meowmee]

83. Yes agree

There was some good, but could be plenty of bad to come if the house is lost.

The fact that any of these wackos were allowed to run for office and got as close and as many votes as they did says it all. Imo. You can ignore that at your own peril. We were lucky enough dems came out to vote in races that were won.

[jonstl08]

19. Right wing friends are quiet

Before the election they were sure the GOP would pick up 30-40 house seats and at least 5 senate seats. Said inflation would be the deciding factor. Flooded my social media the last 2 months with this crap. They are real quiet right now.

[calimary]

20. Ain't it great? Serves 'em right.

Counted all their chickens before they laid an egg.

[Mortos]

45. They are putting ice packs

on their figurative sore nuts.

[Oppaloopa]

97. They are rubbing our faces in it here in Florida

[calimary]

98. Well, remember that old saying: "pride goeth before a fall."

[The Grand Illuminist]

23. Disassociate

When people are quiet like that, they are planning something.

[DemocraticPatriot]

41. Nah, I think they are in shock right now...

[The Grand Illuminist]

43. Maybe.

But I would disassociate for the greater good.

[Evolve Dammit]

79. Congrats on having "right wing friends." I have parted company (and vise versa) with mine. Putin/ 45

successfully divided us.

[republianmushroom]

22. I like it

[LiberalFighter]

24. I hope Republicans feed on Trump and GOP.

[llmart]

25. Let's not forget we flipped some State Houses to Dem.

[oldsoftie]

26. I expected you to say he claimed "FRAUD!!" So I guess he's not a full on idiot.

[Mortos]

103. He's claiming fraud now.

He believes every conspiracy theory that comes out of right wing websites and Tucker Carlson's mouth.

[Bettie]

28. I live in Iowa

So, I'm pretty unhappy.

But there are bright spots and states where there are actually a fair number of decent people, it seems.

Just not here.

[Elessar Zappa]

33. What happened to Iowa?

Didn’t they vote for Obama both times?

[Bettie]

35. Yeah, and then they

just went full racist...I have no idea why.

Apparently, being given explicit permission to be the worst versions of themselves was far too enticing.

We moved here 21 years ago. It wasn't like this then. Now, we're kind of trapped, at least for now.

[Elessar Zappa]

38. The rise of Trump

really changed a lot of people for the worse. I personally know two previous liberal Obama voters who are now full-on Trump-worshipping magats. Even a few former DUers are now Trumpers. It’s sad.

[Bettie]

39. I know a few too

and at least one who has gone to the Bernie-bro side, except Bernie isn't pure enough for him anymore. All three are white men.

[bedazzled]

44. Florida is a horrible place too

I know how you feel

[Mad_Machine76]

34. I'm in Indiana

I wasn't really expecting much and got the results I expected. Just depressed that Indiana went from being a nominal Democratic state (at least in terms of governor and part of the legislature) in the 1990's and even elected Barack Obama in 2008 to Republicans having a perpetual and seemingly unbreakable stranglehold on the state since around 2005. Iowa used to be a fairly reliable blue state that gave its electoral votes to Obama twice and has similarly gone red since. Are younger, more progressive people just abandoning these states?

[Bettie]

36. I know young people who are smart

don't tend to stay in Iowa. The dull-witted ones do though.

[minstrel76]

56. I'm from Iowa too and I definitely share your dismay about the situation here.

I'm an Iowa native and I grew up in Cedar Rapids, but live in Des Moines now and I know some pretty liberal people here-young and young at heart-who consistently vote Democrat. The problem is, we're all outnumbered here by the MAGAT hicks from the sticks in the rural areas and small towns, as well as affluent conservatives in the small cities and suburbs. However, from what I've observed, the younger, more educated Iowans are leaving not just because of political reasons, but because of economic ones; unless one is dying to work in agriculture, insurance, retail or factory, there aren't a whole lot of jobs around here that would be a good match for most degrees. So, after Iowa has spent all of that money educating the kids that grew up here, most of them leave for other states where there are jobs that better correspond to the fields that they studied and then never come back, except to visit family. It's basically Brain Drain and it's not just Iowa that is affected. But couple Brain Drain with the fact that in the rural areas, conservative talk radio is unchallenged and unfettered and the fact that the DNC doesn't see Iowa as very consequential in regard to national elections, and is therefore not willing to invest the money, time, planning, and resources that it would take to make Iowa a purple state again, and on top of that, take the fact that Republicans are really annoyingly good at tying local Democratic candidates to the so-called coastal elites, regardless of what the local candidate's views and personality entail, and the result is that Iowa basically becomes the conservative shitshow that it is now. Given this, I honestly think about moving away just about every day, but the problem is that, not only do I have friends and family here, Iowa is relatively affordable to live compared to other states where Democrats at least have a fighting chance at winning. My partner and I own a house here, but even if we sold it and moved to a more liberal state, there's no way we'd be able to afford to live there.

[Bettie]

64. I hear you

we have paid off our house. Even if we wanted to move, say, back to Wisconsin where we both grew up, even if we sold, we wouldn't have enough to buy a new place anywhere.

So, we're stuck here, among the worst of the worst, as we live in a small town in a rural county filled with MAGATs.

[Behind the Aegis]

58. Oklahoma here, so I feel your pain.

We thought there was a real chance that Gov. Shitt was going down given he has run this state further into the ground and all Nations were supporting the democrat, Hoffmeister. Oh and Lankford and Mullins (a HUGE PIECE OF UNFLUSHABLE SHIT) were reinstalled.

[Mad_Machine76]

31. It's good that he's not on the fraud kick

[3auld6phart]

32. Golly by gawd

I hope you are right. I don’t have any skin in your politics. But the way things were going in the
USA it was getting scary. I look 90 degrees due South 2.5 miles and I see a worthy country . Hope
you stay safely on the rails, stay Blue: I just can’t fathom those mush brained drumphers,re
pukes. Take care.

[gldstwmn]

37. It's all happening! We had a great night last night and the chickens are coming home to roost.

[DinahMoeHum]

46. "NOTHING. IS. WRITTEN." is what I've kept saying all these months.

And so far, as we've proven, Truly for some, heere, nothing is written unless WE THE PEOPLE write it

My apologies for stealing this quote from the movie Lawrence Of Arabia

[Kennah]

47. Kick in the balls? Where is Rosa Klebb when you need her?

[Joinfortmill]

48. I agree, but we're still in a hellava mess.

Time to indict.

[gldstwmn]

49. Bad night for deniers:

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=6RneZ1WvmblxCU9tZuYmOw

[mountain grammy]

50. K & R

[paulkienitz]

51. Last night I thought things looked great, but now CCM in Nevada is behind

and they still might pull some cheating bullshit in Georgia, so I'm not quite celebrating yet. We mostly won, but in the end "mostly" may not quite be enough.

[LeftInTX]

86. We didn't mostly win. Very unlikely we keep the House

It looks like we made same gains in state elections, which is great.

[LostinRed]

52. Fetterman's attacks

We’re awful after the debate those that did owe him an apology and need to learn compassion. He earned that win.

[The Grand Illuminist]

54. Thought he was going to fire you.

nt

[czarjak]

55. Trump payed for The Big Beautiful Blue Wall that only he alone could build.

[Fla Dem]

57. Great piece.

DeSantis is a threat, not only to Trump but to Democrats. If he is a Republican presidential candidate in 2024, the Republicans will flock to him. They'll drop Trump like a hot potato. DeSantis can come across as a genial, understanding politician, but underneath he is an ambitious, craven, take no prisoners politician who cares only about his success.

If he becomes president, he will rule with an iron hand and tear away anything that doesn't align with his ideology and personal ambitions.

[RedSpartan]

62. If Trump is not the 2024 nominee, he will work to crush whoever is.

ESPECIALLY if it's DeSantis.

You think Trump will support the GOP nominee "for the good of the party?" LOL.

Repukes are in a lose-lose position. If Trump is the nominee, they will lose in 2024. If he is not, he's going to try to burn the party to the ground before 2024.

It's going to be wonderful to watch. Enjoy it.

[calimary]

65. That's how it looks, to me also.

trump is in such denial of any bad news, and so hellbent on controlling the narrative his way, that a lot of his empty-headed supporters who are gullible and easily-led will keep on believing in him.

Remember one thing about those folks, which ad I’ve observed seems to be true:

Nobody wants to admit they’ve been had.

And denialism runs pretty doggone deep when you don’t like the reality you’re seeing.

[RedSpartan]

67. You're so right about his denial.

Just posted on CNN:

As votes rolled in from across the country Tuesday night, Donald Trump said something truly incredible when asked about how much credit or blame he should get for the election results.

“I think if they win, I should get all of the credit, and if they lose, I should not be blamed at all,” Trump told NewsNation, adding: “But it will probably be just the opposite.”

Yes, he really said that. And, no, he wasn’t kidding.

[oldsoftie]

104. I think we'll see him slowly disintegrate over the next 2 yrs

To the point where few people listen anymore. Ive already seen some of the REAL "right" saying he "sold out". I've seen others who think HE is "Q", which makes no sense because he's never had an original thought

[FlyingPiggy]

59. Thanks. I needed to hear this. I'm still biting my nails here in AZ.

[Ferrets are Cool]

66. Well, I hope he feels the despair that I felt on the day Hillary lost to evil.

[AllaN01Bear]

68. was hoping that mtg would be gone . but no.

was hoping that abbot would have been gone too, but no.

[IbogaProject]

69. Funniest phrase

It wasn't red wave It was more of some red spotting. A pun on their quest to control women.

[vlyons]

70. Oh let's help TFG with some DeSantis nicknames

DeScrewy DeSorry DeSadSack

[ailsagirl]

71. kick

[Chicago1980]

73. Steel toe or wing tipped?

There was more good than bad last night, but the threat is no where near over.

The micro dick-off between Trump & DeSantis is gonna be fun to watch.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

75. No offense but not helpful and very divisive to say this.

Do the Debbie Downers posting here today not realize that what was predicted was a Republican landslide based on history and polling and what happened was the Democratic Party held its own and overperformed expectations, even Eeyore-like predictions from Democrats? Red wave, more like a red ripple.

Hell everyone was guessing, rightly so. There were and still are multiple possibilities of outcomes. It takes 15 seconds to say we have no idea what is going to happen. And we are a political forum fcs, and media and papers and web editors are being paid to analyze potential results so they thought of all the different possibilities of what could happen.

[W_HAMILTON]

84. I think it was not helpful and very divisive...

...to be posting what we now know to be Republican propaganda polling, even though posters were told repeatedly not to do it since they were not reliable and would only serve to depress the vote.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

87. I guess. But do you honestly think that ANYONE who reads

DU anywhere anytime or any Dem for that matter would decide not to vote because of a poll? I would bet a zillion against that ever happening

Why is it never ok to just hypothesize and have it be just understood that no one knows exactly what will happen. That this poller says this and this one says that? And it's all just a freaking surprise in election night? Why does it have to be a serious science?

[W_HAMILTON]

101. That's what people oountered...

...and yet we now know that, yes, in fact these Republican propaganda polling outfits were flooding the airwaves with their Republican-biased results as a means of depressing the vote in order to get their side to win. We *know* this now, since we can compare all their terrible calls to what actually happened.

So, if they didn't think that negative polls about Democrats worked, why would they invest so much in producing them and getting them out there?

So, no, I don't buy that argument about how negative polls aren't depressing turnout.

And that's fine if you want to dismiss all polls; but then people should stop posting just the negative ones and crapping on the positive ones. There were certain posters that absolutely were doing that. And it did serve to depress voters -- not encourage them and not to enhance our GOTV efforts.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

102. People, all people, before election are just trying to figure

Or guess what's gonna happen. Anyone can post anything they want. If some think it's bogus great. If some think it's not great!

Bottom line No ONE knows. And this Monday morning quarterbacking is so unhelpful.

IMHO!!!

Peace out WH

[Laura PourMeADrink]

78. BTW thought everyone made it abundantly clear the RW tsunami

was bogus because it came from rightwing polls.

Can't have it both ways

[GoneOffShore]

89. At this point, pollsters may as well sacrifice a goat and look at the entrails.

They might get more accurate results. And a nice goat stew.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

100. Well don't you think it's tremendously difficult to predict now?

With cell phones and new mail ins and early voting? I'm just amazed they get as close as they do get.

#anticancelculure

[johnnyfins]

80. Why aren't all the Republican loser screaming FRAUD

Its surprising that there is no stop the steal groundswell.

[CentralMass]

82. You should ask him if he wants another (kick in the balls)

[Genki Hikari]

91. The Democratic strategy for the next two years is clear

KEEP HANDING THEM SHOVELS.

And then stand back so none of the r filth gets on them. They'll handle the rest.



Although the r dirtbags may have dug themselves in so deep that all the dirt falls only on them that way. You reach a point with a hole in the ground where you can only fling the dirt so far up.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

93. The fascists are boiling over with rage here.

They always look angry, but now they look full ready to detonate the C4 in their heads.

I worry more than usual for their wives, kids, and any small animals unfortunate enough to get in their way.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

94. Overall, it was probably the best outcome we could have hoped for.

In this economy, we did well.

I disagree somewhat with these points:

RE: Nuts with investigations. They will absolutely go nuts with investigations -- specifically, there will be a lengthy excoriation of Hunter Biden. It plays to their base and it's all they can do - they can't legislate.

RE: Judges. They will filibuster any SCOTUS picks replacing a conservative justice.

Expect a Federal shutdown in 2023. They love that dog and pony show in order to protest budget priorities they disagree with.

[LeftInTX]

99. Dog and Pony shows galore!

The Dog and Pony shows are all about 2024...Looking at the past: Gun runner investigation, IRS investigation of discrimination of PAC disguised as "social welfare" groups, Benghazi...(Did I say Benghazi???), Emails....

If we keep the senate, nothing much will change.

Not sure if they can filibuster SC nominee if we keep the senate
If Mitch is in charge, he could change the rules again...who knows.....

If we lose the House, it still was a red wave, although it was a ripple, but still powerful.