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MatthewG.

(362 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 07:38 PM Sep 2022

15 Years From Now, Most Republicans will be Disclaiming Trump

Last edited Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:11 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump’s slippery and cunning, but this time I think the chains are really falling. I don’t think he’ll go to prison, but I’d say he’s very likely to be indicted, and on the losing end of multiple court actions.

I’d guess that 15 years from now, or perhaps even less, many or most prominent Republicans will be saying “I never really liked Trump”, “I was always deeply suspicious of the guy,” and “I always had problems with Trump’s ethical flaws.”

We may even get a number of Republicans saying “Trump was never a real conservative!”

They’ll probably support nearly the exact same policies Trump stood for, though.

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15 Years From Now, Most Republicans will be Disclaiming Trump (Original Post) MatthewG. Sep 2022 OP
I've said this about 300 times here. WarGamer Sep 2022 #1
Yeah. I think that's right. MatthewG. Sep 2022 #3
Trump became what he is by speaking the "dark words" that existed in their brains. WarGamer Sep 2022 #5
Thank God it won't be a neo-con Polybius Sep 2022 #19
Joseph McCarthey/Roy Cohn/John Birch Society is the genesis ZZenith Sep 2022 #7
Correct dwayneb Sep 2022 #13
Not sure about the "well" part. ZZenith Sep 2022 #18
Agreed odins folly Sep 2022 #2
I agree MatthewG. Sep 2022 #4
I worked along side of co workers who thought Nixon Emile Sep 2022 #6
Trump might be a little too sleazy for that. MatthewG. Sep 2022 #8
There will always be a few multigraincracker Sep 2022 #17
15 years from now, ultralite001 Sep 2022 #9
It didn't take them that long to start with President Bush the younger... /nt artemisia1 Sep 2022 #10
Yep. MatthewG. Sep 2022 #11
Big difference Polybius Sep 2022 #20
Many think that now, but are too chicken shit to speak out. They rather see our country demosincebirth Sep 2022 #12
15 years!?? Sogo Sep 2022 #14
Things do seem accelerated these days, so you may be right. MatthewG. Sep 2022 #15
20 years too late jcgoldie Sep 2022 #16
nah prodigitalson Sep 2022 #21

WarGamer

(12,591 posts)
1. I've said this about 300 times here.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 07:42 PM
Sep 2022

Trump is the face of the movement but he's NOT the movement.

Who started it?

Goldwater? Pat Buchanan?

A little Ron Paul mixed in?

So as soon as Trump is out of the picture, a new figurehead will replace him. Maybe DeSantis? Noem? Cruz, Paul?? Who knows.

The only SURE THING is, it won't be a neocon or a moderate.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
3. Yeah. I think that's right.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:08 PM
Sep 2022

I think you’re basically right.

Trump’s a somewhat unique political figure in the sense that he inspired a genuine personality cult among a passionate minority of Republicans - largely the most hateful and sloppy-thinking among them.

I don’t know if the next face of the GOP will inspire a personality cult in quite the same way. But conservatives will be back in some form soon enough, and not led by any kind of Establishment figure.

WarGamer

(12,591 posts)
5. Trump became what he is by speaking the "dark words" that existed in their brains.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:13 PM
Sep 2022

Someone else can do it.

Polybius

(15,587 posts)
19. Thank God it won't be a neo-con
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:36 PM
Sep 2022

In many ways, I hate them more than Trumpers. Neo-cons love endless wars.

dwayneb

(774 posts)
13. Correct
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:58 PM
Sep 2022

And the idea that this is all going to go away when Trump is off the stage is dreaming.

Fascism here in the US is alive and well.

ZZenith

(4,142 posts)
18. Not sure about the "well" part.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:17 PM
Sep 2022

I actually think they are desperate and see their last chance slipping away. Which it is.

odins folly

(183 posts)
2. Agreed
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:00 PM
Sep 2022

But I think a far greater group will be the same folks I encountered after W; life long republicans who suddenly became “independent” and professed to anyone who was in ear shot that “they didn’t subscribe to any party and always voted based on a candidate’s views”, of course it was all bullshit. And most of them went full on for the orange assbag.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
4. I agree
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:10 PM
Sep 2022

I agree with you - end of the day, Trump’s post-Presidential travails probably won’t change many people’s actual voting pattern. He’ll be scorned; his party won’t be.

Emile

(23,478 posts)
6. I worked along side of co workers who thought Nixon
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:17 PM
Sep 2022

was unfairly railroaded out of office 25 years after he resigned.

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
8. Trump might be a little too sleazy for that.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:20 PM
Sep 2022

I could be wrong, but I’d say Trump takes unpleasant personal sleaze past Nixonian levels. Some of the really nutty conspiracy obsessives May choose to overlook that in a decade’s time, but I’m not sure a lot of others will.

ultralite001

(895 posts)
9. 15 years from now,
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:27 PM
Sep 2022

most who will be disclaiming whom???


The demise is strong with these ones...


That is all...

MatthewG.

(362 posts)
11. Yep.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:46 PM
Sep 2022

Trump is somewhat distinct from Bush in that he inspired a true political personality cult, but I doubt that’s really going to linger on, except among the most deluded conspiracy obsessives.

Polybius

(15,587 posts)
20. Big difference
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:38 PM
Sep 2022

The Bush's were never trusted by conservatives. Look at Reagan. They never turned against him.

demosincebirth

(12,566 posts)
12. Many think that now, but are too chicken shit to speak out. They rather see our country
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 08:54 PM
Sep 2022

fall apart than open their mouth and speak out. Sad, sad, sad.

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