You were not taught in school about Einstein's political views for a reason,

[Swede]

Be sure to read the comments.


You were not taught in school about Einstein's political views for a reason, same goes for Helen
Keller, Oscar Wilde, Mark Twain, Picasso, and many more.

The following have been mostly erased from history classes as well Eugene Debs, W. E. B. Du Bois,
and Fred Hampton.


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[underpants]

1. This needs a deep dive. 👀

Thanks.

[2naSalit]

2. Yup.

[davsand]

3. History is sanitized for their protection.

NEVER forget history is usually written by the ones that "won". If you take a look at that list with that in mind it takes on a whole new meaning, IMO. If money and fame are "winning" most of the folks listed were not viewed as winners at the time or later. Fu-ged-a-bout the courage and tenacity it took for them to accomplish, and never mind the sheer brilliance represented there. To some people they were not "winners."

Our cultural values have always been skewed. This most recent generation is likely to unskew them, and I'm absolutely excited to watch them do what we were not able to manage! They are asking the right questions and giving voice to what they believe.




Laura

[msongs]

4. every culture sanitizes history nt

[no_hypocrisy]

5. And Einstein was a secular humanist.

[muriel_volestrangler]

6. To be honest, you don't find out about the lives or views of all kinds of famous people

if their fame is basically non-political (eg Einstein). You just don't have the time to go into that much detail if what you really need to learn is the Lorentz transformation.

[ManiacJoe]

10. Exactly this.

In-depth history classes do not happen until you get to college.
What gets taught in elementary schools is so cleaned up that it can be technically wrong.

[dweller]

7. well

✌🏻

[anarch]

8. I also think there's strong pressure on people to not even read Marx

or anything else that criticizes the capitalist system, really. Like, "socialism is evil! if you even read anything about it you will be infected with evil and you will be ruined, so don't even look at it!"

[IronLionZion]

9. Eugene Debs might have been a bit more obvious

since he was the Socialist Party's candidate for president.

Then there was the whole Communist witch hunt era with Joe McCarthy smearing anyone he didn't like.

[Tree-Hugger]

11. I was

I guess I am lucky. I want to a Catholic high school. It was run by Franciscans. A lot of social justice seeds were planted there. I'm grateful I went to that particular school at that time.

[slightlv]

16. I'm not Catholic

And I'm a product of the public school system. But I did take Philosophy classes from the Franciscans at UTSA. And I learned a LOT and had a (dare I say) wonderful time learning, as well. I would take any class I could from them. I envy you in a way, actually. I learned so much from them and they made such an impact on me that I remember their classes from so many decades ago. I daresay I'd never be a Catholic (I'm very happy with my spiritual path), but if any could put me on a seeker's path, it would be the Franciscans.

[Warpy]

12. I've always known about Debs

because a couple of my grand aunts voted for him when he ran from prison in 1920

Hellen Keller was a pleasant surprise, she might have been deaf/blind but she saw and heard very clearly. I discovered her politics in hgih school when I realized the sanitized version couldn't possibly be true, at all.

it's amazing how many of those old socialists came from the Midwest, considering what that prt of the ocuntry has become today. I keep hoping Fuckwit Fundagelicalism will run its course and the region will return to sanity, but I doubt I'll live to see it.

My grndfather had a brief correspondence with Twain. We could never find the letters, so I imagine it ended badly, as so much of Twain's correspondence did.

[keldridge]

13. Eugene Debs was (is) one of my heroes.

I read a biography at a very young age (12 or 13 years) and could not understand what was wrong with what he was saying. I'm 74 and I still agree with him.

[SoCal Roomba]

14. Here's the real problem.

I was schooled in rural Missouri, graduated in 1994.

I didn’t learn a damn thing about any of these people besides Einstein, Twain, and Hellen Keller.

The rest of those folks were never mentioned in school. I read about them in the encyclopedias my parents bought for me.

I didn’t see my first live Picasso until I was in my 30s.

It isn’t about learning about the history of these people, it’s about actually learning about them for many, many people in America.

Hip-Hop culture saved me in those days, that’s where I learned history. Not school. Joining the Navy allowed me to learn much, much more, but only because my mind was open. If you’re using these schools as a basis for your personal learning journey, you are lost from the jump.

[xmas74]

15. I grew up in rural Missouri,1993

I guess it depends on the school district, the teachers and the classes taken.

[JanMichael]

17. I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag. Francis Bellamy.

Another Socialist. Although a tad nationalist.

The no god pledge.

“I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all”

I forgot to add Picasso.

[druidity33]

18. Actually...

most of Mark Twain's and Oscar Wilde's work have obvious political implications. If you've read any of Twain's letters or "Connecticut Yankee...", it would be really hard to separate from the political. I had to write papers about some of this stuff in AP English circa late 80's. My daughter graduated HS 4 years ago and learned about with Eugene Debs, W. E. B. Du Bois,
and Fred Hampton. But i grew up in NY and she went to HS in MA. Maybe it's the area the school district is in?