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Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
Fri May 27, 2022, 05:34 PM May 2022

Background checks? No. Get rid of the machismo machines.

Just as we cannot predict with any certainty what our physical health will be a year or even a week from now, neither can we predict what our emotional/psychological health will be - as witnessed by countless examples of "I... I... I can't believe he killed him/her/them! He was such a loving and caring person!"

Background checks are feel-good policies; they do nothing to address current undiagnosed/untreated/undocumented issues or any future negative emotional/psychological event(s) a percentage of high-capacity/high caliber firearms owners WILL experience.

The only solution I can see to address the problem with these type of firearms is to remove them.

Lead, follow or get out of the way.

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Background checks? No. Get rid of the machismo machines. (Original Post) Comatose Sphagetti May 2022 OP
2nd amendment is not absolute. thomski64 May 2022 #1
How? brooklynite May 2022 #2
Make them illegal. CivicGrief May 2022 #3
Go do it. GoodRaisin May 2022 #4
I've joined a campaign to get a Democrat elected sheriff in my county. CivicGrief May 2022 #6
And when the owner's refuse to turn them in? MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #7
Then they would be breaking the law. CivicGrief May 2022 #8
The Sheriff's of counties are the enforcers of the law, they can pick and choose which laws MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #9
Glad you think it's funny. CivicGrief May 2022 #10
I think it's funny that you think that confiscation could be achieved. MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #11
I would think someone like you wouldn't feel so powerless to do something. CivicGrief May 2022 #12
You don't know jack shit about me or my views on gun control or ownership, MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #13
These weapons are unnecessary no matter what your opinions about gun regulations. CivicGrief May 2022 #14
Other countries don't have the 2A MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #16
Curious - Comatose Sphagetti May 2022 #19
That's something you have to ask of those that own those firearms. MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #20
Don't have to ask. I know. I see it every day. Comatose Sphagetti May 2022 #22
You may be right, I don't know, I don't hang around with anyone like that, MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #23
Good luck with that leftstreet May 2022 #5
The Republican shootings will continue until Republicans are made to own the shootings. GoodRaisin May 2022 #15
+100. MarineCombatEngineer May 2022 #17
It's gun CULTURE that worships guns, gets millions of guns out on the streets, and sees guns as wiggs May 2022 #18
I agree, but it won't happen. shrike3 May 2022 #21
Its really not about this type of gun. SYFROYH May 2022 #24

CivicGrief

(147 posts)
6. I've joined a campaign to get a Democrat elected sheriff in my county.
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:04 PM
May 2022

I'm not going to change the world myself, but naysaying is unproductive.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,543 posts)
7. And when the owner's refuse to turn them in?
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:06 PM
May 2022

What? Send armed men to confiscate them?

I think you are not being reality based here, most Sheriff's, especially in the rural areas of the country, will flat our refuse to enforce such an order or law.

CivicGrief

(147 posts)
8. Then they would be breaking the law.
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:28 PM
May 2022

They at least won't be able to walk around with them and intimidate anyone who doesn't agree with them. Would the Sheriffs refuse to enforce the law when they see someone with such a weapon? I don't like the idea of waiting to see if someone with an AR-15 is a good guy. Lives matter to me more than guns.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,543 posts)
9. The Sheriff's of counties are the enforcers of the law, they can pick and choose which laws
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:30 PM
May 2022

get the highest priority and which gets the lowest priority, guess which would get the lowest?

Confiscation?
Yeah, good luck with that.

CivicGrief

(147 posts)
10. Glad you think it's funny.
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:34 PM
May 2022

I would think saving lives would be the number one priority, but apparently you know everything.

CivicGrief

(147 posts)
12. I would think someone like you wouldn't feel so powerless to do something.
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:40 PM
May 2022

I guess we should just all throw up our hands and accept the carnage. Would that be collateral damage, or do I not have my military terms right?,

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,543 posts)
13. You don't know jack shit about me or my views on gun control or ownership,
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:54 PM
May 2022

I believe that there are gun control measures that would help with the carnage, but confiscation is most certainly not one of them.

Aside from losing the House and Senate, it would get a whole lot of people killed or injured.

CivicGrief

(147 posts)
14. These weapons are unnecessary no matter what your opinions about gun regulations.
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:11 PM
May 2022

But you are probably right about the gun culture in this country. Shouldn't give you solace. Other countries have done it.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,543 posts)
16. Other countries don't have the 2A
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:13 PM
May 2022

or the RW court we have, and as far as being necessary?
Others have a far different opinion than you do.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,543 posts)
20. That's something you have to ask of those that own those firearms.
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:56 PM
May 2022

It's not for me to say what other people think they need.

Comatose Sphagetti

(836 posts)
22. Don't have to ask. I know. I see it every day.
Fri May 27, 2022, 09:07 PM
May 2022

I happen to know several people with AR's and thousands of rounds.
None of what they have could rationally be defined as necessary. None have what anyone could call a valid reason to address any real existential threat. (Keyword is "real.&quot
All will tell you their AR's are for 'yotes (6,000 rounds for 'yotes???), or "protection," or they like to collect them.
That's all bullshit.
The reason they have them can be described in one word. Fear.
Fear of "the other," fear of change, fear of the unknown; a thousand different forms of irrational, illogical, pathological fear.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,543 posts)
23. You may be right, I don't know, I don't hang around with anyone like that,
Fri May 27, 2022, 09:42 PM
May 2022

I tend to keep to myself IRL and drive my truck, what others feel they need or don't need isn't up to me to decide.

Have a great weekend.

leftstreet

(36,119 posts)
5. Good luck with that
Fri May 27, 2022, 06:00 PM
May 2022

I know you mean well, but confiscating won't happen. Limiting the types of weapons sold moving forward could happen, along with background checks etc.

It's also time to start holding people accountable who knew or observed the type of behavior leading up to these incidences. Counselors, family, friends, schools, etc.

See a psycho, report a psycho

GoodRaisin

(8,934 posts)
15. The Republican shootings will continue until Republicans are made to own the shootings.
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:11 PM
May 2022

As long as Republican policy is to do nothing and R voters are satisfied to keep sending them back to office, there is little chance of any meaningful federal legislation to change this cycle, whether it be background checks or banning the guns. It will be neither. We keep going through this same cycle because about 50% of the voters and nearly all of the M$M don’t care enough about murdered children to change their behaviors.



wiggs

(7,821 posts)
18. It's gun CULTURE that worships guns, gets millions of guns out on the streets, and sees guns as
Fri May 27, 2022, 07:15 PM
May 2022

the answer to their problems, no matter the problem.

shrike3

(3,881 posts)
21. I agree, but it won't happen.
Fri May 27, 2022, 08:20 PM
May 2022

To a certain type of gun owner, their guns are more important than anything else. More important than any human being, certainly.

SYFROYH

(34,186 posts)
24. Its really not about this type of gun.
Fri May 27, 2022, 11:31 PM
May 2022


People seem to forget that the worst school shooting to date was at VATech where the shooter used two handguns - a 22lr and a 9mm.

Im against bans and think we can regulate better.









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