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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBackground checks? No. Get rid of the machismo machines.
Just as we cannot predict with any certainty what our physical health will be a year or even a week from now, neither can we predict what our emotional/psychological health will be - as witnessed by countless examples of "I... I... I can't believe he killed him/her/them! He was such a loving and caring person!"
Background checks are feel-good policies; they do nothing to address current undiagnosed/untreated/undocumented issues or any future negative emotional/psychological event(s) a percentage of high-capacity/high caliber firearms owners WILL experience.
The only solution I can see to address the problem with these type of firearms is to remove them.
Lead, follow or get out of the way.
thomski64
(459 posts)... it's obsolete!
brooklynite
(94,988 posts)CivicGrief
(147 posts)Are you happy with the status quo?
GoodRaisin
(8,934 posts)CivicGrief
(147 posts)I'm not going to change the world myself, but naysaying is unproductive.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)What? Send armed men to confiscate them?
I think you are not being reality based here, most Sheriff's, especially in the rural areas of the country, will flat our refuse to enforce such an order or law.
CivicGrief
(147 posts)They at least won't be able to walk around with them and intimidate anyone who doesn't agree with them. Would the Sheriffs refuse to enforce the law when they see someone with such a weapon? I don't like the idea of waiting to see if someone with an AR-15 is a good guy. Lives matter to me more than guns.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)get the highest priority and which gets the lowest priority, guess which would get the lowest?
Confiscation?
Yeah, good luck with that.
CivicGrief
(147 posts)I would think saving lives would be the number one priority, but apparently you know everything.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)CivicGrief
(147 posts)I guess we should just all throw up our hands and accept the carnage. Would that be collateral damage, or do I not have my military terms right?,
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)I believe that there are gun control measures that would help with the carnage, but confiscation is most certainly not one of them.
Aside from losing the House and Senate, it would get a whole lot of people killed or injured.
CivicGrief
(147 posts)But you are probably right about the gun culture in this country. Shouldn't give you solace. Other countries have done it.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)or the RW court we have, and as far as being necessary?
Others have a far different opinion than you do.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)How is an AR with several 30-round (or more) clips necessary for the average man/woman?
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)It's not for me to say what other people think they need.
Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)I happen to know several people with AR's and thousands of rounds.
None of what they have could rationally be defined as necessary. None have what anyone could call a valid reason to address any real existential threat. (Keyword is "real."
All will tell you their AR's are for 'yotes (6,000 rounds for 'yotes???), or "protection," or they like to collect them.
That's all bullshit.
The reason they have them can be described in one word. Fear.
Fear of "the other," fear of change, fear of the unknown; a thousand different forms of irrational, illogical, pathological fear.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)I tend to keep to myself IRL and drive my truck, what others feel they need or don't need isn't up to me to decide.
Have a great weekend.
leftstreet
(36,119 posts)I know you mean well, but confiscating won't happen. Limiting the types of weapons sold moving forward could happen, along with background checks etc.
It's also time to start holding people accountable who knew or observed the type of behavior leading up to these incidences. Counselors, family, friends, schools, etc.
See a psycho, report a psycho
GoodRaisin
(8,934 posts)As long as Republican policy is to do nothing and R voters are satisfied to keep sending them back to office, there is little chance of any meaningful federal legislation to change this cycle, whether it be background checks or banning the guns. It will be neither. We keep going through this same cycle because about 50% of the voters and nearly all of the M$M dont care enough about murdered children to change their behaviors.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,543 posts)The culture has to change before any meaningful regs are enacted.
wiggs
(7,821 posts)the answer to their problems, no matter the problem.
shrike3
(3,881 posts)To a certain type of gun owner, their guns are more important than anything else. More important than any human being, certainly.
SYFROYH
(34,186 posts)People seem to forget that the worst school shooting to date was at VATech where the shooter used two handguns - a 22lr and a 9mm.
Im against bans and think we can regulate better.