If we go to war with russia, can we arrest Fucker Karlson, all of fux news and their funders?

[erronis]

Just asking the question...

Seems that most of the RW/libertarian news media and money-bags are in traitorous territory - aiding and abetting the enemy.

[Angleae]

1. *IF* we go to war and *IF* the keep it up then yes.

[Zeitghost]

24. No, not even then

Being against American involvement in a war is not treason. I thought that would be a pretty well accepted fact around here.

[Angleae]

27. Parroting russian propoganda is.

Far too much of what they classify as "news" is coming from the russian state news agencies and doing that is "lending aid and comfort to the enemy".

[Zeitghost]

29. No, it is protected political speech

Full stop.

[DBoon]

31. Father Coughlin was taken off the air once Hitler declared war

It has been done before and could be done again

[Mariana]

33. Was Father Coughlin arrested?

The question in the OP was whether Carlson and friends could be arrested.

[DBoon]

34. Your point was that supporting an opponent in wartime is "protected political speech"

My point is that it is not, and forcing Coughlin off the air curtailed his speecg

[Mariana]

38. OK, but Fox News Channel isn't on the air.

Father Coughlin was not arrested, and he was still able to express his opinions publicly. He was only stopped from using the public airwaves to broadcast his speech. Fox News Channel doesn't use the public airwaves.

[Zeitghost]

36. And we interned Japanese Americans in camps at the same time

Doesn't make it constitutional.

Coughlin was also broadcasting on public airwaves where the FCC has more control.

[keep_left]

37. I'm pretty sure the Church did that...

...he had been an embarrassment for some time (his anti-Semitism was really vulgar...Coughlin just had no sense of being low-profile with his bigotry). When Pearl Harbor was attacked, his superiors in the Vatican pulled rank.

[okaawhatever]

2. I'm thinking deep fake video of Tucker giving up Vlad's secret. Vlad will handle it from there. nt

[2naSalit]

10. +1

[erronis]

17. Good idea. Maybe also giving up vlad's secret hidey-hole.

[roamer65]

3. Yes, under the Espionage Act of 1917.

[Emile]

4. Yes, we should arrest traitors especially ones with a penis enlightener

and wears bow ties.

[David__77]

5. The US isn't going to war with Russia. Biden won't do that.

…

[RKP5637]

8. Just a question, I often wonder, is a massive cyber attack an act of war? Typically war is

an act of destruction, a hard-war, I guess. So, maybe a massive cyber attack is a soft-war. Just been wondering. Some have said it is, I just do not know.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Good question.

Putin has been waging war with the US.
Installing a POTUS, members of congress.
Relentless propaganda.

At what point do we fight back?

[RKP5637]

16. I've read, and I think the same, that if Putin sees any sign of compromise, kindness & touchy-feely

stuff he perceives it as a weakness and an opportunity to exploit that weakness. IMO he's a sociopathic bully on a mission to restore the USSR, and I don't think he's stopping. In fact, at this stage perhaps he's border psychotic. Now, we have asses like Tucker Carlson spreading Putin's gospel. It all really is a Catch 22 IMO as to when to fight back.

[Irish_Dem]

21. Putin is a ruthless, cunning sociopath and narcissist.

Yes he would see any attempts at compromise or kindness as serious weakness. And would exploit yes. Putin is very good at identifying weaknesses in an opponent and exploiting that weakness.

Yes he is on a mission to restore the USSR and he also wants to shift the global balance of power in his favor. Yes he will not stop in his decades long goal.

Not sure if he is psychotic at this point or not. His behavior is the same as it has always been. Ruthless, brutal, etc.

And he has been planning world domination for decades.

[tirebiter]

6. Gotta be careful going down that road

HUAC originally was set up to investigate pro Nazi 5th column activities. Then the Republicans got the majority and you know what followed…

[brush]

13. There's no doubt about Carlson's pro-Putin activites...

though. He's on the air every spewing it. He's guilty as fuck.

[Irish_Dem]

7. Benedict Arnold territory.

[RKP5637]

9. Yep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[Iggo]

11. If we go to war with Russia? Really? War with Russia?

Blabbering TV show hosts will be the least of our worries.

[erronis]

18. Agree that T.V. hokesters won't be the main target. But like Goebbels and the

propagandists of the Third Reich, putin has his installed around the world.

They have been steadily undermining any rationality in a whole group of people.

[Iggo]

28. Ain't nobody gonna be on TV.

Lack of electricity and dwindling food and petrol availability will be more on people’s minds.

[brush]

12. They'd be at the top of the fifth columnist list for sure.

Vichy waters and all.

[William Seger]

14. There won't be any time for that, and it won't matter when we're all dead

Within an hour or so, any semblance of civilized society will be gone.

[Mariana]

19. Probably not.

Speech in support of the enemy isn't treason.

Constitution of the United States, Article III, Section 3, Clause 1:

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

[Hoyt]

20. Amazing how we tout democracy by wanting to silence those we despise.

[ripcord]

22. People have the freedom of speech

as long as we agree with it.

[Iggo]

23. The punishment fetish is strong in this country.

Fascinating, and scary as hell.

[Dial H For Hero]

30. Couldn't agree more.

[48656c6c6f20]

26. When Pootin threatens to use nukes

Unless we reinstate TFG we're all on board right?

[DBoon]

32. I think it would be better to base this on funding sources

Any money received from Russia sources and not publicly disclosed should be grounds for prosecution

[in2herbs]

35. This is so crazy. We can go to war but it's illegal to stop the cause of the war -- which is the

misinformation of Fux News.

I hope there is a groundswell of cable subscribers who call their cable company and tell them to remove Fux News from their line-up.

[Mariana]

39. Fox News Channel didn't make Russia invade Ukraine. nt.

Edited to add: If Fox News Channel is part of your TV subscription package, then you are directly supporting Fox News Channel. Every time you pay the bill, Fox News Channel gets a piece of it.

[DVRacer]

40. Sometimes the authoritarian leanings here are too much

It wasn’t that long ago some of us were outspoken against the government and war. Would anyone be ok with GW arresting us for speaking up against Darth Cheney?