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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAn open letter. Sent this to a friend, she's blocked me. Been a good day.
Walleye
(31,137 posts)Jm7603
(165 posts)Faux pas
(14,703 posts)SheilaAnn
(9,711 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,822 posts)Will share!
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)will need a dictionary and we all know that's not going to happen.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)The friend didn't even understand what 634-5789 was trying to convey!
usaf-vet
(6,233 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Plus, they would say, "too long, didn't read"
They can read? I'm shocked!
NewHendoLib
(60,031 posts)LakeArenal
(28,863 posts)They may deserve it but you arent a friend.
womanofthehills
(8,801 posts)Most of my friends are Dems but 3 of my friends are Republicans. Name calling is not how you reach people. I have a friend who said a sentence I once said on a road trip made her rethink her beliefs. She was married to one of those Rush Limbaugh Republicans - she left him, went back to school and is now a Dem. She always thanks me.
renate
(13,776 posts)Was it just a throwaway thing you casually said that made her go home and think, or were you discussing politics? Either way, it would be wonderful to know what could have had such an effect!
634-5789
(4,175 posts)634-5789
(4,175 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)aggiesal
(8,948 posts)and when I called her on it, she doubled down and then blocked me.
I called her a racist and walked away.
She's contacted me about 6 months later, a couple of times for
business reasons, I asked her about that racist post, and tripled down.
I'm so sick and tired of her racist attitude, I will not deal with racists in
any capacity. I would not be her client so that she could make money
on me and donate to other racists candidates.
I have not spoken to her in over a year.
I miss her, she was fun to be around, but like I wrote earlier, I will not
deal with racists in any capacity.
I still have the original racist post. I will DM if people ask.
634-5789
(4,175 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)But Trump didn't flip a switch. He just allowed what was already there to be worn like a badge of honor.
SunSeeker
(51,787 posts)Jetheels
(991 posts)stopdiggin
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Raine
(30,541 posts)dchill
(38,597 posts)Codifer
(548 posts)just what is needed. This is Truth.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)EXTREMELY well written. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.
I'm sure your former friend got enraged after the first couple of sentences, and immediately went to block you, while stomping their feet in a hissy fit.
FakeNoose
(32,861 posts)He/she had no way to know that it's not a personal diatribe directed at him/her.
Unfortunate ... but probably not much of a loss. Oh well
Hassler
(3,395 posts)If the former, you succeeded, if the latter, not so much.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Wonder where the letter came from anyway.
hay rick
(7,656 posts)If they are to be redeemed, they need to feel the contempt that they have earned. These people are morally damaged and addicted to blaming others, to hate, and to the misinformation that feeds and renews their behavior. Pretending these people are ok, particularly if they are friends, is enabling. They need intervention, for their own sake and for the sake of our society. In the AA program, the 4th step is taking a "fearless moral inventory."
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)But the MAGAs will never take the first step. There's no point holding back in criticizing them; they are worthless vermin and will never change.
hippywife
(22,767 posts)"You believe obvious lies as truths because they flatter your hateful and childishly self serving perspectives"
To me this makes a very sad point that, at least in my opinion, none of them really have the right to say they were fooled or bamboozled, and I don't accept that as an excuse because it illustrates the kind of people they have to be inside to begin with, to be so receptive to the extremely blatant callousness and cruelty behind it all.
Who and why else would anyone believe all of his and the others ongoing BS and the daily march toward authoritarianism unless they're someone who wants to believe it.
bucolic_frolic
(43,452 posts)I plan to refuse to meet them. I will tout my being vaxxed 7 times in 15 months - flu, DPT, 3 and soon 4 covids, pneumonia, shingles.
I will tell them I don't want to contaminate them, that I am a fire-breathing vaccination specimen who relies on science instead of superstition. That should really bother them because they complain they don't want that vaccine "in their body", as if they are purity, the real Ewell Gibbons of pure intake who have never encountered a foreign substance.
I am very serious about this. I will use this to drive them away for good. I will not tolerate delusion and stupidity.
Phoenix61
(17,023 posts)I rarely piss off anyone on accident. Its almost always a well thought out move to show a toxic individual the door. Im a fan of the one and done method.
oldsoftie
(12,658 posts)Read up on what many REAL doctors, not whack jobs, are saying about its necessity. Going from 90% protection to 70% isn't a "drastic reduction" in protection. Its actually still higher than most seasons flu shots
wnylib
(21,732 posts)Asking for people 50 and older.
oldsoftie
(12,658 posts)Here is his opinion along with several other credible opinions.
From March 28
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/fauci-potential-fourth-covid-vaccine-dose-not-needed-everyone-immediate-future/65-5d7db554-7332-442d-8ae8-8a76da503371
Benefits of a 4th shot just not that noticeable.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/4th-covid-19-vaccine-doses-looming-experts-fast/story?id=83578268
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2022/02/22/1029057935/who-might-benefit-from-a-4th-shot-and-who-might-not
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/is-a-4th-covid-shot-really-necessary-boston-doctors-weigh-in/2671718/
I pay little attention to the CEOs of Pfizer & Moderna applying for approval & recommending a 4th shot. Because they will make billions from a 4th shot. Doctors won't.
And the constant stimulation of our immune systems with shot after shot is just a bit too high of OTHER risks to me; some of which are mentioned in these articles.
If I get a 4th shot it will be next year. Unless, of course, some other variant comes out that is worse than all the other ones & another shot is developed.
wnylib
(21,732 posts)based on his age (81) he said.
In my 70s, with 3 comorbidities, I chose to have the 2nd booster.
Approval for the 2nd one did not come out of the whims of a few doctors. It was based on studies, especially ones coming out of Israel, and the expected rise in cases from BA.2. Although a surge like the original omicron is not expected in the US, seniors are still more vulnerable to breakthrough infections than other people, and more likely, like me, to have comorbidities.
Ounce of prevention ......
oldsoftie
(12,658 posts)wnylib
(21,732 posts)the approval for a second booster was given.
It was not based on whims of people who were not "real doctors" as you earlier implied.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Specifically asked my MD to send the Rx because not only do I have medical conditions, but I was getting a lot of exposure in my hospital intake job: averaging 20 patients a day coughing their lungs up through their mask. Tiresome disinfection between each, either way I got bolstered to max availability. The spike waned well over a month ago now, but still seeing some trickle of intake.
oldsoftie
(12,658 posts)She noticed all the "things" all over the shield and realized people have been spraying/breathing/etc toward her all these years!
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)634-5789
(4,175 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,495 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)and completely true.
PatSeg
(47,717 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,503 posts)Those going to all my Republican relatives.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)It lacks actual factual evidence for all the accusations. It will take hundreds of scholars, historians and economists as well as medical experts to explain all the details of how badly those who have been hyped up on falsehoods, betrayed and aimed at our country to destroy it.
So on the part of anyone being addressed in this manner, it may simply seem like name calling.
Since they don't know the truth, they have no idea how any of this can apply to them. They don't believe that actual factual news is real. Only the latest TikTok or whatever some blow hard that supports their point of view says is valid.
To truly forgive them, they would have to understand the nature of their crimes and ask to be forgiven. We can understand their lack due to constant bombardment with propaganda. But I release my anger at them. It's useless to hold myself hostage to their insanity.
Lucky Luciano
(11,267 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)The sheer amount of disinformation flowing now is mind boggling.
With the internet we were beginning to siphon truth out of the far reaches and it was an advantage for truth seekers everywhere.
THEN those who want total control began misusing that as well as buying up the media we rely on as the fourth estate.
I can call someone a stupid idiot IF the facts are there in front of their face and they refuse to believe it.
BUT when we allow agencies to CALL THEMSELVES NEWS (Faux News as main example) when they are working to bring about the Oligarchy's agenda, then where can we point to sane and rational information that isn't constantly attacked as "Fake News"?
Facts are now fake and lies are truth.
Our world is turned upside down.
YES. As Americans we need to fight this like Hell. Get our country back to reality.
But just like Ukraine we are doing it under constant fire during supposed talks of peace.
Jetheels
(991 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)In many cases, yes, there are those who choose to believe because it fits what they want to be true.
But why is that?
Because the KKK never went away. It went underground and behind closed doors. Women and children are beaten and indoctrinated from birth. They infiltrated political and police power centers and silently have been working against equality without ceasing.
IF YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD that lies are the truth and even the media at large sometimes supports your opinion, that is 2/3rds of your experience.
The crazies on the other side have been designed for this purpose. To unmake them requires their cooperation. To get their cooperation we need to show them not only the truth, but how the truth is better for everyone.
It's a hard sell under a waterfall of disinformation. It's a hard sell on a bright sunny day with all the facts and time to discuss them.
calimary
(81,565 posts)Add Praise the Lord before you sign off.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Setting aside the religious aspect, look at his words and deeds and how he reached out to the people as a whole and gave them hope and forged a path for people to forgive themselves when they fall short and as humans we all do have those days.
He cared.
He put himself in harms way for others.
He gave people a path of peaceful resistance that helped change the world.
Sounds more like a lot of DEMS I know than these RePukes putting on airs.
Are there other valid belief systems and ways of living an honorable and moral life? Yes.
Does that make following the ACTUAL example of Christ wrong? No
Does using His name to do things completely against his message of love and hope make them very poor and awful examples of Christians? Yes.
A Christian should REFUSE to EVER, EVER HATE ANYONE in God's name. God IS Love. Hate is the opposite.
John 3:16 says, "For God so loved the world..." and if HE doesn't make exceptions, then neither do I.
God is not prejudiced. He loves everyone. So TRUE Christians really need to check themselves and get their heads on straight.
It's so much easier to be self righteous and claim all you do is "GOOD" then to truly live a humble and righteous life. Do the next right thing and move along despite the weariness of not being understood or appreciated.
Christians who act like Pharisees are NOT doing what Christ asked them to do. They are full of themselves and whitewashing their behavior.
It doesn't make ALL Christians bad people.
Jetheels
(991 posts)then implode. Their brain would melt into goo.
I must congratulate you that you were not upset by being blocked by them.
Im still working on developing that kind of attitude and not getting upset by all the insanity thats going on.
DownriverDem
(6,233 posts)do left leaners think not voting in November is the way to go?
stopdiggin
(11,404 posts)or anything approaching it. You must know some really peculiar 'left leaners.' (besides being off topic)
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)We need to STORM the VOTE and make sure we get every vote counted.
OUR BEST ADVANTAGE is that TRULY the MAJORITY of AMERICANS believe that Our Democracy is a force for good in this world, that it gives "The People" the power over their own existence.
Voting is one way we keep the walls of this dike from bursting at the seems and allowing the Oligarchy to rush over us and flood our lives with servitude and suffering.
KS Toronado
(17,432 posts)and I'll never...ever forgive you for being stupid & ignorant.
Personally I would never send this to an R, it's a rant and we don't appreciate their rants, why lower ourselves
to their level. I prefer to attack them with ?????s they have a hard time answering, makes them think.
hamsterjill
(15,224 posts)You cant ask them questions that make them think because they dont want to think. They want to follow the herd because they feel safest amongst the others who dont want to think.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)PatrickforB
(14,602 posts)If she blocked you then she is not your friend. She has chosen the dark side.
llashram
(6,265 posts)Saoirse9
(3,687 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,575 posts)DFW
(54,483 posts)I was expressing my distaste for a certain head of state who had no leadership qualities at all, liked to play soldier, while having to rely on his (his dads, really) inner circle for advice on anything military. For that matter, it was the fact that his dad had gone before him that put him in the position in the first place. Were it not for that, he would have ended up as a low-level bureaucrat or a street sweeper.
I got an angry riposte from some Republican who thought I was showing a shameful disrespect to our president (W). I explained that I had been talking about Kim Jong Il of North Korea, but if they saw so much similarity in the two, well far be it from me to disagree.
Escurumbele
(3,408 posts)Short and to the point...can't get better than that.
ificandream
(9,413 posts)Tickle
(2,585 posts)called a friend? I get the blocking
onecaliberal
(32,977 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)and pasted it to my text, got rid of all caps and toned parts down although it's all true.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)....one less idiot to deal with.
Demovictory9
(32,489 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)Every time I speak to my son who is under the thrall of the fake news providers, I wonder if I would be better off without him in my life.
Truth be told, the answer is Yes.
As a parent I thought I taught him to think for himself, question things and reason it out. However, there is propaganda out there being put together like billion dollar block busters and promoted like WWF.
He's "thinking for himself" by not believing what I tell him just because I'm his Mom and he "should" trust me. He believes I am being duped my the MSM with "fake news".
But I watched a clip he sent me about "workers bringing out suitcases of votes after hours" on a PC and read what the investigation into those claims uncovered. The video was spliced with normal activity from the morning dumped into night hours. I saw from one second to the next that there was NO SUITCASE under the table and then there was. I explained all they had to do was change the time marker on top from AM to PM.
I've told him the BLM "vandalism of the Lincoln Memorial" was a tag line down the stairs 50 or so feet away and that the video circulating of actual damage was a fraud put out there. Unfortunately the "LIVE" cameras happened to be down or I would have shown him the impossibility of the damage being true by showing him the statue in tact.
I have to work for a living. I don't have as much time as I need to disprove all these people who are actively working to undermine our justice. I still try, but I feel like I come up short if I can't convince this one person.
I do make progress here and there with him.
But it's like having a relative who got taken in by a cult and trying to deprogram them while they are still attending meetings.