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Do you think facebook makes society worse? (Original Post) ColinC Nov 2021 OP
Yes, but not just Facebook - they might be the worst, but social media in general Ocelot II Nov 2021 #1
Agreed. ColinC Nov 2021 #3
+1 2naSalit Nov 2021 #9
I think all the major sites do AZProgressive Nov 2021 #2
Ugly hatred has always found a way to express itself and will continue to do so... brooklynite Nov 2021 #4
I quit Facebook when they became too hard for me to find. ColinC Nov 2021 #5
It is the algorithms that scientifically radicalise, plus the sheer scales of economy Celerity Nov 2021 #17
Never joined. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2021 #6
Internals show Facebook thinks Facebook makes society worse. Maru Kitteh Nov 2021 #7
No, but F-x does. elleng Nov 2021 #8
If undermining self esteem and exacerbating dissatisfaction Demobrat Nov 2021 #10
FB, IG, Twitter, TikTok. All of them. absolutely NewHendoLib Nov 2021 #11
No...FB and social media are ok HipChick Nov 2021 #12
No. But corporate news does leftstreet Nov 2021 #13
It depends. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2021 #14
Whenever any business puts profits over people, not just Facebook, society always suffers. sop Nov 2021 #15
I think society makes facebook worse. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #16
I don't spend enough time there to have the slightest idea. n/t DFW Nov 2021 #18
People make society worse. betsuni Nov 2021 #19
Yes. Facebook gives them a vehicle to be ugly without doing any leg work. Buckeyeblue Nov 2021 #21
Yep. Facebook and other social media outlets are merely GoCubsGo Nov 2021 #27
Social media helps to destroy humanity's natural way of communication, ie face-to-face.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2021 #20
So the best way to communicate is with the people immediately around you...... brooklynite Nov 2021 #26
No, and my post does not suggest that. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2021 #30
Your quote: brooklynite Nov 2021 #31
And I dislike Twitter and Instagram as well. sinkingfeeling Nov 2021 #22
I think society held up Bettie Nov 2021 #23
Human psychology just isn't set up for social media Sympthsical Nov 2021 #24
Water is also wet LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #25
It doesn't have to be, but it does Ron Obvious Nov 2021 #28
There community standards are worthless. LiberalFighter Nov 2021 #29
No. By and large, society has been enriched by FB. Decoy of Fenris Nov 2021 #32
I can't think of anything that has contributed more to the ongoing jcmaine72 Nov 2021 #33

Ocelot II

(115,900 posts)
1. Yes, but not just Facebook - they might be the worst, but social media in general
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 12:49 AM
Nov 2021

has turned out to be a total cesspool.

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
4. Ugly hatred has always found a way to express itself and will continue to do so...
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 12:56 AM
Nov 2021

...at least Facebook has cat videos.

Celerity

(43,590 posts)
17. It is the algorithms that scientifically radicalise, plus the sheer scales of economy
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 06:03 AM
Nov 2021

that FB employs and posseses that make it such a unique and massive threat. I would say the same for most major social media platforms, but FB is the grand old bull elephant of sociopolitical destruction.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,679 posts)
6. Never joined.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 12:58 AM
Nov 2021

Maybe to my regret....I've missed a lot of inter-family communications. But I have enough internet time wasters. (Looking at you DU).

Demobrat

(9,004 posts)
10. If undermining self esteem and exacerbating dissatisfaction
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 01:20 AM
Nov 2021

make society worse, yes.

According to Facebook everybody but me is living a perfect life of loving relationships, financial success, joyful holidays and wonderful vacations.

I stopped posting in 2009 because I couldn’t keep up. But I did spend some lockdown time looking up people from my past. Everybody’s life is perfect. Didn’t expect that.

leftstreet

(36,117 posts)
13. No. But corporate news does
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 01:22 AM
Nov 2021

Interactive social media is the peoples media.

Corporate one way media has made society worse

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,916 posts)
14. It depends.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 01:57 AM
Nov 2021

It mainly depends on how you handle Facebook.

I am glad for FB for things that are highly personal, and allow me to be in contact with others who matter to me. How can I say this? When my son died more than four years ago, it was Facebook that got the news of his death to his friends. And enabled the planning of a memorial in his community.

Around 200 people came to that memorial. Most of them would not have even been aware of his death without FB. Honestly, it was a wonderful memorial. We held a raffle of his various possessions, which turned out to be joyous. His many t-shirts, most of which were from the various Ultimate Frisbee tournaments he attended, were well received.

Without Facebook, it would have been a vastly lot longer for his many friends to know he had died.

This is why I am a fan of FB.

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
21. Yes. Facebook gives them a vehicle to be ugly without doing any leg work.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 07:00 AM
Nov 2021

Throughout history humans have been petty horrible. So we continue this trend. Facebook gives people an easy way to express their ignorant hate. These people otherwise would be too lazy to actually work to get out their message.

GoCubsGo

(32,097 posts)
27. Yep. Facebook and other social media outlets are merely
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 03:52 PM
Nov 2021

the black light you shine on the sofa that exposes all the nasty stuff, as John Fugelsang says. The Internet, in general, has been awful for decades. What one sees on Facebook today is no different than what we saw in the comments sections of articles on Yahoo! 25 years ago. It's why most sites that allow comments have moderators now. There will always be racists, misogynists, and bigots of every stripe, who will spout their hate wherever they can. It's easy when they can do it under the cover of anonymity that many outlets allow.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,496 posts)
20. Social media helps to destroy humanity's natural way of communication, ie face-to-face....
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 06:44 AM
Nov 2021

or at a minimum, hearing a human voice on the phone. It also binds people to very large corporations by having to pay big monthly phone/internet bills. In other words, people now have to pay a monthly bill for their emotional health.

Lack of touch and lack of seeing and talking to people in-person is very unhealthy for humans. Social media tends to minimize those things due to human laziness, ignorance and complacency.

I remember the days when people used their telephone mostly in brief conversations to set up direct human contacts and when we got to see our family and friends, our hearts were uplifted in ways that nothing else can.

KY

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
26. So the best way to communicate is with the people immediately around you......
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 02:18 PM
Nov 2021

..or other people who's opinions you already know?

brooklynite

(94,792 posts)
31. Your quote:
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 12:15 AM
Nov 2021
…humanity's natural way of communication, ie face-to-face.... or at a minimum, hearing a human voice on the phone


Unless you think I should phone total strangers, that’s going to limit my exposure.

Bettie

(16,132 posts)
23. I think society held up
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 09:55 AM
Nov 2021

a mirror or a magnifying lens to who people really are.

Some of them turned out to be horrible.

Sympthsical

(9,132 posts)
24. Human psychology just isn't set up for social media
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 10:24 AM
Nov 2021

The more experience I have with social media, the more I realize our brains are being manipulated. Remember, all those algorithms are there to get the dopamine hits, ping the outrage and fear mechanisms, and generally create a generalized state of anxiety and tribalism.

We've made it very, very easy to form a mob mentality about things you wouldn't even think could generate it. The Internet could be a tool to become more informed and see many different perspectives. Instead, I find the more time people spend cocooned in social media among preferred groups, the less they actually know about things.

Studies are bearing this sort of thing out.

At least it's interesting reading.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
28. It doesn't have to be, but it does
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 03:56 PM
Nov 2021

It's the dopamine-feeding algorithms designed to keep people in information bubbles and to constantly feed their outrage.

LiberalFighter

(51,170 posts)
29. There community standards are worthless.
Sat Nov 13, 2021, 04:12 PM
Nov 2021

They use AI to identify violators which calls into question their ability to monitor their site.

 

Decoy of Fenris

(1,954 posts)
32. No. By and large, society has been enriched by FB.
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 03:21 AM
Nov 2021

I'm isolating the political lies (although there are indeed many of them) and focusing on the more positive; The hobby-lovers, the sports-enthusiasts, the "Crocheting" groups, and any number of other isolated groups of people seeking like-minded interaction with those who share their passions.

Fully 60-75% of Americans don't give a single shit about politics or the lies we love to rail against, and that's nothing to be said about the rest of the world that uses Facebook. FB as a networking software has done wonders, and in many ways is the template for human interaction on the Net.


If people want to find something worth condemning, I can name twenty websites that have done -far worse- than Facebook, dating back as long as my semi-recent memory, where snuff films and pictures of violent death and radicalization have sustained themselves.

By comparison, Facebook is a godsend.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
33. I can't think of anything that has contributed more to the ongoing
Sun Nov 14, 2021, 03:42 AM
Nov 2021

isolation and Balkanization of our society than so-called "Social Media". Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, et al

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