I hate myself for thinking this...

[TygrBright]

...but everyday I read something(s) that brings the thought back:

"Maybe if enough stupid people die, we won't have to go through this for another generation or two. Assuming we survive."

I feel like a bad person for thinking this. But it just keeps muscling into my consciousness.

exhaustedly,
Bright

[BannonsLiver]

1. There will always be more.

It’s like those Dorito’s ads in the 80’s.

“Eat all you want, we’ll make more.”

[NQAS]

2. If it's any consolation

you're not alone.

The problem, though, is the non-stupid people could die as well, including children under 12, for whom there is no vaccine.

I have a young granddaughter and I'm beginning to wonder whether she will ever attend day care or school or interact with any other children, besides relatives, for years and years.

[TygrBright]

3. I know. The 'collateral damage' of stupidity breaks my heart, too. n/t

[japple]

20. My great nephew (whose family lives next door to me) was born last May. He is so fearful of

people outside of his immediate family. The whole family had covid during April 2020, though all cases were mild. My niece enrolled him in day care just so he could be around other children his age. He has an 11 yr old sister and a 13 yr old brother. On Monday, he started running a fever and was taken to the dr where he tested positive for covid. The parents have been vaccinated but the older children have not. They were all tested and had negative results. I hope this will encourage the 13 yr old to get the vaccination. Poor little baby has had a sad life. I hope things turn around soon and he will get to go on to have a somewhat normal life.

[Ohio Joe]

4. I get it...

For years now the rights answer to health care has been 'Let Them Die'. Then they started throwing in a complete break from reality and a pride in their criminal activities. Their voters have gone along for the ride and I find it very hard to have sympathy for any of them.

[Farmer-Rick]

33. Yup, the right has been chanting for decades let them die it they don't have enough money

That's their medical insurance plan. Let them die if they don't have enough money to pay the profits of rich men.

[dameatball]

5. No need to hate yourself for something normal. You don't have to stay in that space but visiting it

is pretty much part of forming an opinion on where you stand. I don't want anybody dead, but.....yeah....the mind wanders and sometimes we just have to reboot.

[mercuryblues]

6. That's what people said

during the 1918 influenza outbreak,

[Texin]

22. But in 1918 they didn't have influenza vaccines.

There have been a few number of people who have shunned vaccinations for various reasons (mostly religious previously and more recently among those who've been duped into believing that childhood vaccinations cause autism). Only in the tRump era did receiving the Covid-19 vaccination become a political protest, and any other measures such as masks, distancing and other methods anathema to those suffering from TDS (tRump Derangement Syndrome).

[Hekate]

7. It is extremely discouraging, isn't it?

[marble falls]

8. The trick is to understand the function of harvesting the weak, without feeling joy about it.

... Nature is a giving force and a taking force at the same time.

Don't feel guilty. Karma rolls independently of our ego.

[Iggo]

9. If you imagine those stupid people as suicide bombers...

…maybe it’ll help you see it from a slightly different perspective.

[captain queeg]

10. Between the Covid situation and the heat wave I've been feeling depressed

I try to just look at my own circumstances which aren’t bad. But when I lift my eyes a little to look at society and the future I get very discouraged.

[MoonRiver]

11. Those are just thoughts and can't cause any damage.

I have similar thoughts, but that's all they are.

[IronLionZion]

12. The problem are the innocent bystanders they take down with them

[wnylib]

13. The children.

When I read about toddlers in ICU and a 5 week old infant on a ventalator, I want to slug the next anti vaxxer, anti masker that I encounter.

How do you even get a ventilator for an infant?

[IronLionZion]

21. Infant ventilators exist

but there is a regional shortage causing some to be airlifted to other states. Imagine having to be flown by helicopter 150 miles just to breathe.

[wnylib]

27. A baby, for God's sake.

Who was the effin' SOB that infected that helpless being?

Best for my sake and his/hers that I don't know.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. It's not a fun thought

and I think we've been through this before. I mean survival of the fittest means there has always been natural selection to weed out the stupid. And yet this is what we've got. A soft life divorced from marginal economic reality allows broadening of the stupid pool, which means survival of the fittest is not a one-way street. Not surprising. So no I don't think there will be a weeding out of stupid people. Community and social structure supports the weak and the strong in most time periods, especially in liberal democracies. It could even be worse: during periods of dictatorship, smart kind people are weeded out. So humanity is getting worse by the short periods of damage to society more than it's getting better during long periods of supportive community. Cooperation vs. Competition, is human nature basically good, or basically bad?

[wnylib]

38. There are so many variables

that I don't think death or survival in this pandemic can be boiled down to a single cause.

I really dislike the term "survival of the fittest" because it is interpreted too often to mean "the most worthy." But in evolution, it only means the person best equipped by a genetic roll of the dice to cope with harmful changes in the environment.

There can be people of very low intelligence levels who inherit a genetic mutation that allows them to survive a disease outbreak. There can be very bright people who do not have a beneficial genetic mutation and succumb to a disease before its existence is even recognized to prepare for it. There have been very bright, educated doctors and nurses who have taken every precaution to protect themselves, but got sick and died.

There have been brilliant people who have contributed much to society but who would have died if not supported by society in their medical care. Stephen Hawkings is just one who comes to mind.

When conversations turn to the idea that society
protects people to the point of harming itself, I think about "defectives" who were sterilized in the US in the early 1900s. I think about the "inferiors" and "defectives" who were rounded up and killed in 1930s Germany. And I shudder.

When society decides that somevmembers are expendable, that society goes through a socially evolutionary change that might harm itself in the long
run. We don't know what environmental challenges the future holds, whether from disease, natural disasters, or gentic mutations that might be harmful, beneficial, or neutral. We don't know which genes that exist now will be best equipped for the future.

[Deep State Witch]

15. Stupid People Breed

The problem is that stupid people have more kids more than intelligent people.

[NNadir]

16. Social Darwinism has a difficult history...

...often tied to racism and abuse.

I am looking forward to reading "The Orphans of Davenport" on the Eugenics and "Intelligence" movements of the 1930s.

Social Darwinism was certainly embraced by the extreme right historically as well as in recent times. It drove major crimes against humanity.

I personally question whether a firm relationship between genetics and whatever it is that represents "Intelligence" exists.

This said, a Darwinian selection of some sort is underway, and with all of the above said, to the extent that it reduces the current population of gullible simpletons is something I personally can't regret.

Trumpers committing suicide is not going to make the world worse except to the extent innocents are caught in the crossfire.

[LizBeth]

17. The unvacc getting delta has me at the point where I say not a lot of empathy which is really

unprecedented for me. My son at 26 is more to what you are suggesting. He is done with the dumb that hurts others by spreading Delta and looking at his future with climate collapse which is what he calls it today. When our youth are not even considering having kids because of the world we are creating for them, I understand their disgust with us.

[lagomorph777]

18. You're not bad for thinking it.

[Martin Eden]

19. Natural consequences; It's Nature's Way ...

.. of telling you, something's wrong:

[rickyhall]

23. Our founding fathers had to put up with the same ilk in the in The Revolution.

They are always there. They will always be there.

[obamanut2012]

24. I've been thinking it, too

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

25. Unfortunately for that hope, nowhere near enough people

are dying from this. I hate to sound blithe or callous about the actual death toll, but at least so far it's not putting any kind of a dent into the population, or slowing population growth at all.

[Raine]

28. Thinking it is one thing but wishing it on others is when it's wrong IMO

just don't wish for it. 🤔

[ewcordon]

29. It happens to us.

When I find myself in a similar situation, I usually whisper under my breath "get thee behind me, Satan."

[eppur_se_muova]

30. DeSatanist has already killed off more Floridians than his margin of victory in the election ...

So you may be factually correct.

[secondwind]

31. I think a lot of folks have entertained this idea. It's human nature.

I would not give this a second thought.

[SKKY]

32. Anyone who goes through this as we have will invariably have those....

...feelings. When those feelings surface, I just keep in mind schadenfreude is never a good look.

[sarchasm]

34. I was thinking it also, but ...

… then my sweet vaxxed SIL got covid … from her grandkids! They’re doing ok thankfully but still. We guess things started getting better, kids started hanging out with other kids in the neighborhood and pow, it doesn’t take much.

[GoCubsGo]

35. If it makes you feel any better, I have always said that if I could do it all over again,

I would get my degree in bioengineering, and create a virus that was lethal to stupidity. But, it looks like Mother Nature did that for me.

I just can't take all the idiocy anymore, whether or not it's pandemic-related.

[Maine Abu El Banat]

36. I'm worst

I keep thinking it will be less Republican voters.

[Paladin]

37. I feel the same way. And I certainly don't hate myself for it.

The danger these fools pose to me and my loved ones makes them fair game for my loathing. I wish they would all disappear. Permanently. Preferably this afternoon.

Anybody who takes the word of Tucker Carlson over the instruction of trained medical professionals deserves exactly what they get---death very much included.

[grantcart]

39. You are sugar coating it a bit

It's not just that they refuse to do the minimum to protect themselves and others, but that there are hundreds of millions outside the US begging for vaccines but can't get them.

It's not just stupidity it's also arrogance.

[BobTheSubgenius]

40. You are not alone; I've heard that sentiment voiced more than once.

I totally get it, but I don't think that way. The number of deaths it would take to have a statistically measurable effect on "group IQ," if you will, would be in the millions. I am not educated well enough on the subject to venture anything other than a guess as to how many it would take, but I'd have to think it would be into 8 figures.

[evolves]

41. Tygr,

You are certainly not alone in thinking that.

[BlueJac]

42. They are legions

Never ending

[Comfortably_Numb]

43. I'm not killing them myself, so I sleep just fine at night knowing they are self selecting.

[Texaswitchy]

44. I am angry for my Grandkids.

They do not deserve this.

Two summers since I retired.

They were going to spend the summers with us.

Just to give their mother a break, she is a single Mom.

No, can't have this.