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ansible

(1,718 posts)
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:45 PM Aug 2021

California spending billions to house homeless in hotels

Homekey is the lynchpin of Gov. Gavin Newsom’s $12 billion plan to combat homelessness in the nation's most populous state. California has an estimated 161,000 unhoused people, more than a quarter of the nationwide total of 580,000, according to the the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Newsom signed the funding bill July 19, calling it the "largest single investment in providing support for the most vulnerable in American history."

Newsom's office said $800 million — most of it federal Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act money — was spent on Homekey in 2020 to provide shelter for 8,200 people. Now the administration plans to go even bigger: California will spend $5.8 billion of state and federal funds over two years to expand the program and create an estimated 42,000 housing units.

“If you think of last year as a proof of concept, you can think of this year as taking this strategy to scale and making it a centerpiece of California’s approach to housing the homeless,” said Jason Elliott, senior counselor to Newsom.

Newsom has made tackling homelessness one of his top priorities. Now that the governor faces a recall election, Republican candidates have released their own plans to combat the crisis. John Cox wants to require unhoused people to receive any needed treatment for addiction or mental illness before they can get housing. Kevin Faulconer wants to build more shelters to make it easier to clear encampments.

https://www.aol.com/news/california-spending-billions-house-homeless-193842495-215740425.html

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California spending billions to house homeless in hotels (Original Post) ansible Aug 2021 OP
F'ing Rs. They are just beside themselves .... Newsome KPN Aug 2021 #1
You telling me that almost $100K EACH was spent on the homeless in one year? Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #2
Going to be 138,000 per for the next round MichMan Aug 2021 #3
Yeah, well, I don't mean to sound stingy or uncaring, but that's a pretty extreme sum Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #4
Why would this surprise you. Big Money in homelessness. NT cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #5
Because it's ... too freaking much. That's why. Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #7
Hotel corps most likely getting rich off of it madville Aug 2021 #6
Last year? More like 'barely staying open, and giving their employees jobs' Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #8
Federal lodging per diem in California is around $150-300 a night depending on location madville Aug 2021 #10
I see what you're saying, but that's assuming every single person gets their own room? Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #12
You should see what it costs when they walk into the Emergency Room... hunter Aug 2021 #9
Basically if someone is giving you $100K for lodging alone, that's like having a $400K/year job Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #11
Seems like it would be cheaper to rent them an apartment or trailer madville Aug 2021 #13
8,200 people in a state of almost 40M? Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #14
Like the article says, they are almost quadrupling funding madville Aug 2021 #15
If the right wingers can go on TV with ads saying Newsom 'gave' $100K/year to the homeless Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #16

KPN

(15,650 posts)
1. F'ing Rs. They are just beside themselves .... Newsome
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:59 PM
Aug 2021

is actually solving a problem they had hoped to attack them on. F’ing hypocritical swine.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. You telling me that almost $100K EACH was spent on the homeless in one year?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:18 PM
Aug 2021

And that's just State money, solely for 'shelter'?

That is astounding, if accurate.

10K each I'd believe, but 100K each?

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
4. Yeah, well, I don't mean to sound stingy or uncaring, but that's a pretty extreme sum
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:39 PM
Aug 2021

That's more than I make in a year by a good margin, after 25 years as a professional in my IT field. To be fair, if I were in Cali, that's probably about what I'd make. But not just for my shelter, that's for everything. Before taxes.

It may not be 'fair', but a number like that is not going to go over well with the taxpayers and workers.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. Because it's ... too freaking much. That's why.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:57 PM
Aug 2021

I suspect a correction will be forthcoming, it'll be 8,200 families or the like, not individuals.

madville

(7,412 posts)
6. Hotel corps most likely getting rich off of it
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:33 PM
Aug 2021

They get guaranteed occupancy throughout non-peak times, sounds like a big win for their bottom line.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. Last year? More like 'barely staying open, and giving their employees jobs'
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:59 PM
Aug 2021

And 8,200 people isn't going to keep all that many hotels in business anyway.

I still think that number is inaccurate.

That's just too much money per person.

They put up 8,200 homeless people in rooms averaging $274/night/person?

C'mon.

madville

(7,412 posts)
10. Federal lodging per diem in California is around $150-300 a night depending on location
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:16 PM
Aug 2021

$274 a day wouldn't be abnormal, especially if they are providing meals or food vouchers. If I was the hotel, in the contract with the state I would build potential damages and possibly the need for extra security into the rate since they are bringing in occupants that will have high rates of drug/alcohol addiction and untreated mental illness.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. I see what you're saying, but that's assuming every single person gets their own room?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:29 PM
Aug 2021

And if there's an estimated 160K homeless folks in the state, how did they decide which 5% got themselves a free $100K?

Those kind of numbers just do NOT look good when you have so many working families struggling as much as they are to put a roof over their own heads.

Almost sounds like you're better off not working, paying rent, etc.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. Basically if someone is giving you $100K for lodging alone, that's like having a $400K/year job
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:21 PM
Aug 2021

Since most recommendations are 1/3 of after-tax income spent on your housing.

And then there's the taxes on the 400K, leaving you at around 300K.

It's completely unsustainable for a state to be providing basically a $400K/year fake job to ... anyone.

A single working mother of a family of 4 would be VERY lucky to pry $20K/year out of ALL government entities, and that's for everything, not just housing, for 4, not just 1.

I don't mean to sound like I lack empathy, but that is a serious political liability. People are going to be PISSED at Newsom if those numbers are correct.

Frankly I'm really hoping they are NOT.

madville

(7,412 posts)
13. Seems like it would be cheaper to rent them an apartment or trailer
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:38 PM
Aug 2021

I was in the SF Bay Area from 2017-2019 on a work contract, I spent $30k a year on my one bedroom apartment and utilities. They could get 3 or 4 apartments for the cost of one of those hotel rooms. But that many extra apartments don't exist so I guess that's not a practical solution, the sudden extra demand would likely cause rent to increase, hurting working families already struggling to pay high rent.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
14. 8,200 people in a state of almost 40M?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 11:49 PM
Aug 2021

That's really not that much extra demand.

That's why I'm saying the math here makes no sense.

You can't just spend $100K each on 5% of the homeless population.

I really think, at minimum, it should read 8,200 families. Or maybe 82,000 people instead of 8,200.

madville

(7,412 posts)
15. Like the article says, they are almost quadrupling funding
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:02 AM
Aug 2021

so it's more like 30,000 now, it was 800 million last year for the 8200, and increased to 2.9 billion this year so that should theoretically cover 30,000 folks this year at the same rate.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. If the right wingers can go on TV with ads saying Newsom 'gave' $100K/year to the homeless
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:20 AM
Aug 2021

for their lodging alone, handing out $275/night hotels like Santa Claus ... he's fucking toast in this recall.

Perhaps my point here has been obscured, but that's what I'm getting at.

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