Woman seen almost stabbed in Columbus police shooting video now gets death threats: I-Team

[sarisataka]

Woman seen almost stabbed in Columbus police shooting video now gets death threats: I-Team

CLEVELAND (WJW) – The FOX 8 I-Team has learned of death threats reported to Cleveland police by a woman at the heart of a deadly police shooting of a teen in Columbus.

Police video this week showed a Columbus officer shot a 16-year-old girl as she was about to stab a woman. That woman went to stay with a relative in Cleveland. Then she called police to report her life is in danger. She told police Friday someone posted her current and former addresses, phone number and picture on social media. That led others to share it on social media.

Then, the woman started seeing “threatening comments” about how she “should be beat or killed.” Someone even posted “they were on their way to her current address to kill her.”

The woman told Cleveland officers that in light of the shooting and what’s happened since she is in “extreme mental anguish.”

https://www.wkbn.com/news/ohio/cleveland-connection-in-deadly-police-shooting-of-teen-in-columbus-i-team/

[Hoyt]

1. There are some sick MFers out there. Hope they catch a few of them.

[ripcord]

2. What exactly did she do to deserve this?

[cinematicdiversions]

32. Not being killed is a form of Snitching?

[FakeNoose]

3. She should qualify for a witness protection program, if nothing else

I hope the police or the D.A can help her.

[LizBeth]

4. It is a woman. So predictable.

[jaysunb]

5. She bears a lot of responsibility for the child being killed, but violence is wrong

No matter how you feel about her action. The circle needs to be broken.

[SYFROYH]

6. How is that exactly?

[jaysunb]

7. Facts: she's a 30 year old woman, who, along with another adult

Went to the child's home to beat her up.
Things escalated to the point someone was killed.
A total cluster Fuck all the way around.

[SYFROYH]

8. What is the specific evidence that she went to her house to beat her up?

Because that is not what Ma'Khia's foster parent said.

(CNN)Ma'Khia Bryant and two other young women argued over a messy house and unmade bed before a fight that ended with the fatal police shooting shooting of the Black teenager, the woman who cared for Ma'Khia in foster care said Thursday.

Angela Moore said two of her former foster children had come to her Columbus, Ohio, home Tuesday to celebrate her birthday when the young women and Ma'Khia bickered over housekeeping.

"It was over keeping the house clean," Moore said. "The older one told them to clean up the house because 'Mom doesn't like the house dirty,'" Moore recalled being told after she arrived home from work. "So that's how it all started."

Officials in Columbus have released body camera video of Tuesday's shooting -- during which Ma'Khia lunges at another young woman with a knife outside the house -- and urged residents to await the facts in the investigation.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/22/us/ohio-columbus-makhia-bryant-police-shooting/index.html

Really, what is the specific evidence that led to your claim?

[jaysunb]

9. Her own words as well as the others involved,

The videos and taped versions are all over the web. You should check them outl

[SYFROYH]

10. Her words did not identify who was threatening who at all.

Again, the homeowner and foster parent said the girls were former foster kids who had come back to celebrate her birthday.

I think you're presuming way too much about the girls who were attacked in the police and neighbor's videos.

YMMV

[Demsrule86]

57. You don't need words when you have someone lunging with a knife.

[Celerity]

11. why don't you post some links as you are the one making the claims

TIA

[Demsrule86]

45. I suppose you believe everything on the internet...sound reasonable...the girls got into a fight

and the one who died in my opinion was clearly the aggressor...she had a knife.

[Hoyt]

13. What I read was the two ladies -- who were former foster kids there -- suggested

that the lady shot should clean up. She got mad. I admit I don’t know what is true.

But, yeah, it was a chaotic scene.

[LisaL]

61. She didn't go to child's home to beat the child up.

She went there because it was the foster mother's birthday.

[Hortensis]

63. She and the other former foster child. From the foster mom's

account, they arrived before she got home from work and apparently they and Ma'Khia been together other times.

"They argue all the time," Moore recalled, "but I never thought it would escalate like that."

Tragedy.

[pnwmom]

62. If you had any real evidence for any of that, you'd post it.

There have been so many easily disprovable lies posted about this story -- for example, that Bryant was approaching the officer for help when she was killed. No one should believe everything they hear.

You can't even prove the age of the female in pink.

[LisaL]

65. She didn't go to the home to beat up the child. She went for her foster mother's birthday.

"Angela Moore said two of her former foster children had come to her Columbus, Ohio, home Tuesday to celebrate her birthday when the young women and Ma'Khia bickered over housekeeping."

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/22/us/ohio-columbus-makhia-bryant-police-shooting/index.html

[GulfCoast66]

14. Well, she did not pull out a 6-8 inch knife and get all stabby.

Yeah, poor decision all around.

[cinematicdiversions]

33. Where do you get any of that? NT

[StarfishSaver]

34. Maybe the same place people here got the idea that Ma'Khaia lied when she called 911

If this thread is going to be about making up shish, why can't everybody do it and do it a out everyone involved, not just the dead girl?

[Demsrule86]

47. Look she had a knife and was about to stab someone who presented no threat to her

at the time. After looking at multiple videos, I don't think the cop had time to do anything except shooting her as the arm was about to go down...the other girl would have been killed regardless of what the fight was about...the dead girl had the knife. This is not the hill to die on...and the " I know she was bad but white people do bad things and don't get shot' isn't going to work ever IMHO...although true no doubt.

[kcr]

67. Ridiculous

The utter lack of concern over her needed in order to spin the outrage is awful, to begin with. Now we're going to slander her.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

15. 911 Call

It seems 22-year-old not 30.

This article appears to have info about the 911 call
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/35-minutes-of-chaos-colored-fatal-shooting-of-makhia-bryant/2021/04/24/81b96858-a4f9-11eb-b314-2e993bd83e31_story.html

"It remains unclear who called 911, but Bryant’s family members told The Associated Press that she herself summoned law enforcement."

The article makes me believe that it is possible the the 16 year old made the 911 call and was accusing 1 or more other "grown girls" of trying to stab people.


" “We got these grown girls over here trying to fight us. Trying to stab us. Trying to put their hands on our grandma,” the caller says"

That leads me to believe that it is likely that there was a knife or knives being used in a threatening manner before the policeman got there. It also implies that there was more than 1 aggressor.

So, we do not if anyone else may have tried to get all stabby with 6+ inch knives. It seems like we should withhold judgment on that. Unless someone has some facts.

[BGBD]

16. or

she was lying on the call to get the women she was mad at in trouble with the cops. Wouldn't be the first time somebody has done that.

[StarfishSaver]

17. Wow

Let's assume facts not in evidence.

Now do the cop. What negative behavior and motives can you assume about him?

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

18. Possible Scenarios

You miss the point. These are not assumptions of facts/evidence.

These show us that we should understand that we do not know. That we should NOT make assumptions. A person's mind might see only one thing as likely. But when you open your mind to possibilities, different possible scenarios, you begin to understand that you should NOT make assumptions. Including assumptions of innocence or guilt. Of course our system of laws say we assume innocence of all parties.

[Bettie]

41. Why is the only "possible" scenario

always the one where the dead kid is 100% at fault for everything?

Is your mind open to the idea that more may have happened before that last ten seconds? That we may have only seen the "shoe on the other foot" segment of the altercation?

There were non lethal tools that the cop could have used.

In the end, yes, I'm sorry if this woman is receiving death threats.

But, I am more sorry that a child is dead.

[BGBD]

19. I guess

You think white women are the only people capable of lying on a 911 call?

[StarfishSaver]

20. Sometimes it's better to just remain silent

This is one of those times you should have done that.

[BGBD]

55. I'll decide when I do and

Do not speak.

[Demsrule86]

50. There is never going to be any evidence other than the horrible ending...a girl had knife in her

hand and tried to stab another girl who tried to run away...that is all she wrote. It doesn't matter who called the cops...could have been any of them. The person could have been lying or telling the truth; we will likely never know. The cop shot to save the girl in pink from being stabbed. I don't think he had a choice. She did not have a knife and was holding a small dog at the time...not someone trying to kill anyone in my opinion. It is a terrible thing that happened but there is never going to be anyone charged, an officer fired, or any trial.

[StarfishSaver]

53. And yet, people here are not only willing to believe the worst about the dead girl

but they are posting their speculations on this board.

But God forbid anyone think the cop was anything but an upstanding hero.

[Treefrog]

21. I wondered the same. Calling the cops to get others in trouble is not unheard of.

The teen killed was obviously unstable, and I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if that was the case.

[mopinko]

22. sorta classic 'troubled teen' behavior.

my middle kid did shit like that.

[StarfishSaver]

24. White cops do shit like look for excuses to kill Black people because they're racist

Lots of white cops do shit like that.

But funny how you're not assuming that while making an assumption about a dead Black girl based on shit your middle kid did.

I cannot believe the comments in this thread - made by people who probably think they're woke af.

[Treefrog]

29. I really cannot believe you think the cop should have let her stab the other person.

Talk about stop digging. You might want to watch all the videos out there showing what happened.

[Treefrog]

25. Yes, I've seen adults do it too. Also the calling of child services to get someone in trouble.

Despite what others may think, this is not at all uncommon.

[StarfishSaver]

30. You've also seen white cops intentionally kill Black people and claim they had a good reason to do j

Despite what others think, that is not all that uncommon.

But I'll bet you'd have a problem with that assumption being made here.

[Demsrule86]

52. And you are lumping this incident with the others... it is not the same. And you assume the

the white cop is a racist...maybe he is or maybe he is not...I have no idea and neither do you.

[StarfishSaver]

56. I'm not assuming the white cop is a racist

I'm pointing out that the same people who are insisting that it's unfair to assume the white cop is a racist are also pronouncing all manner of bad behavior to the dead girl, without any evidence.

If it's wrong to assume without evidence that the cop is a racist, it's wrong to assume, with absolutely no evidence, that Ma-Khia is a little thug who lied to 911 in order to get someone else in trouble.

The problem is that, too often, in these situations, the cop is given the benefit of the doubt and everyone is instructed not to jump to conclusions or make assumptions about his moral character, motives, mindset, or behavior. And yet those same people will jump to conclusions and make assumptions about the moral character, motives, mindset, and behavior of the dead Black victim, just as people are doing in this thread.

[mopinko]

35. classic borderline personality disorder behavior.

one of those things i wish i had no reason to know.

[Bettie]

42. Is your middle kid dead?

Because this young girl is.

Would you be so cavalier if it was your own 'troubled child' who was dead?

[mopinko]

43. well, that's pretty perfectly unwarranted.

it has nothing to do w what i said. i've been in that kind of situation. having to call the cops, or ending up tangling w the cops, because a kid is acting up is a horrible place to be.
mine never pulled a knife, but she came close to being on the other end of one.

this shit is the biggest reason why i support defunding the police, and explaining that shit to anyone who doesnt understand that that doesnt mean some lord of the flies shit.

i've had to make that call, and it was always one of those moments i was truly grateful to be white.

this shooting was completely unjustified.

[Bettie]

46. Yes, we can agree that

the shooting was unjustified.

Cops go immediately to the most lethal tool in their metaphorical box.

It really comes down to one question: was there a non-lethal way of dealing with this situation?

I honestly believe that there was, he had a taser. He could have used it and no one would be dead.

[mopinko]

48. it was. even just yelling at her to drop the knife.

did he even try? i cant watch those vids.

and there seems to be an assumption that the minute the knife touched this woman, she was dead. hello? it's hard to stab someone to death. her life was not in danger.

[Bettie]

51. I agree there too

Sorry I misunderstood where you were coming from initially.

[mopinko]

58. no worries.

[LisaL]

64. It's hard to stab someone to death? Seroiiusly?

Should I post google links to all the people dying from being stabbed?
Starting with 13 year old who was recently stabbed to death by another 13 year old.

[mopinko]

66. in a split second? w one blow?

before the cop could run 100'?

[LisaL]

69. How long do you think it takes to stab someone?

I guess I do have to provide links. 13 year old killed another 13 year old using pocket knife.

"The two girls reportedly got into a fight and the suspect is accused of pulling out a pocket knife and cutting the side of the Givens’ neck. Givens was taken to Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center but died of her wounds."

https://www.cleveland.com/nation/2021/04/ohio-girl-13-stabbed-to-death-and-another-13-year-old-girl-is-charged-with-her-murder.html

[mopinko]

70. i'm not saying it's impossible. but it takes skill.

i know someone who was stabbed to death. 26 wounds. it was about #6 that killed him.

people get shot w guns and live. the chances of instant death are not zero, but they arent the same as a gun at close range.
plus there were already personnel on the scene. chances of bleeding out were low as well.

[mopinko]

44. also this-

there is a sisterhood among women who have raised mentally ill kids.
a lot of them belong to the one of women who have lost a child, and every one of us knows how lucky we are not to be in that club.
so, no. i wouldnt be so cavalier. i would be grieving for my sister, which i am.

[StarfishSaver]

23. That's a whole lot of speculating theee

You could also speculate that the cop was a racist who was looking for an excuse to kill a Black person. I mean, since you're just making shish up, why not go that direction?

[Treefrog]

26. He saved the life of a black person, did he not?

[StarfishSaver]

27. What does that have to do with making up things about the dead girl?

I don''t know if he saved her life. Maybe he was a racist who intended to kill all the Black people on the scene but his bullets missed and only hit Ma'Khaia.

That alternative has as much validity as the baseless assumptions people are making about Ma'Khaia. But, of course, it would be wrong to speculate about the white cop the way you're speculating about the Black girl he killed, wouldn't it?

Y'all really need to stop digging. I don't think you realize what you're revealing.

[Treefrog]

28. What did I make up, pray tell?

I said she appeared to be unstable, which seems obvious to any thinking person. 16 year olds don’t usually run around attacking people with knives. Do you consider that normal behavior?

[StarfishSaver]

31. Take that bullshit somewhere else

I see right through it.

And everyone else here can see it too.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. Here's a very simple yes or no question,

did the police officer save the girl in pink from being stabbed? Yes or No?

[StarfishSaver]

37. I'm not playing your little red herring games

Whether or not the cop killing a Black child saved the life of a Black woman has nothing to do with whether it is appropriate for people here to assume without any basis that Ma'Khaia lied to the 911 operator before the cop arrived.

Nice try, though.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

38. I never said if she lied or didn't,

all I did was ask you a simple question which you refuse to answer.

Have a great Sunday.

[Bettie]

59. It isn't a yes or no question

might she have been stabbed? Yes, maybe

Might she have moved in a way that avoided stabbing? Probably, unless that child was a knife fighting expert or savant.

Would a non-lethal method (like a taser) have stopped the whole thing? Yeah, it is highly likely it would have and no one would be dead.

None of us know the whole story, we know the last ten seconds via body cam.

That cop made a choice when he reached for his gun instead of a taser and that choice was to use the most lethal option he had.

That child did not deserve to die.

If she were a white girl, I believe that the decision on which weapon to draw would have been different.

[Bettie]

39. Right and how do you know for a fact that she called 911

for that reason? Were you there?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

40. How do you know she didn't?

Were you there?
See, 2 can play at that game.

[StarfishSaver]

49. How do you know the cop isn't a white supremacist looking for Black people to kill that day

and he knew there were non-lethal actions he could have taken in this situation, but he consciously decided not to use them because he wanted to get a Black notch on his belt and he's only pissed that he didn't have a chance to also kill the woman in pink?

Were you there?

Three can play that game. The difference is, the game you're playing requires the benefit of the doubt be given to the white cop and assuming the dead Black child was 100% at fault - just like people who play your game always do when cops kill Black people.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

54. How do you know he is?

This is getting silly.
Please, just stop with this silliness.

[StarfishSaver]

60. "How do you know she didn't?" vs. "How do you know he is?"

I see what you did there.

Not silly. It's something else altogether.

[kcr]

68. Her body was hitting that knife

Her fault!