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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsScientists develop transparent wood that is stronger and lighter than glass
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/scientists-develop-transparent-wood-that-is-stronger-and-lighter-than-glass-1.5902739Early attempts to make transparent wood involved removing the lignin, but this involved hazardous chemicals, high temperatures and a lot of time, making the product expensive and somewhat brittle. The new technique is so cheap and easy it could literally be done in a backyard.
More (+ photos) at link...
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/scientists-develop-transparent-wood-that-is-stronger-and-lighter-than-glass-1.5902739
Phoenix61
(17,019 posts)All kinds of cool things come to mind. Clear decks and stair case stringers, bunk bed frames, mail box posts, table bases.... where do I order?
Bayard
(22,172 posts)Then,
"As window material, it would be much more resistant to accidental breakage. The clear wood is lighter than glass, with better insulating properties, which is important because windows are a major source of heat loss in buildings. It also might take less energy to manufacture clear wood because there are no high temperatures involved.
Transparent wood could become an alternative to glass in energy efficient buildings, or perhaps coverings for solar panels in harsh environments. There could be no end of uses."
electric_blue68
(14,955 posts)Remember when in 'The Voyage Home" Scotty talks to the Aluminum Plant Manager about 'transparent aluminum'?
Ha! Who thought wood would be first instead! 😄
3catwoman3
(24,055 posts)I love that movie. It is my favorite of all the Trek movies.
"There be whales!"
electric_blue68
(14,955 posts)Gore1FL
(21,154 posts)electric_blue68
(14,955 posts)😄 Particularly bc I'm a Trek fan, and The Voyage Home
is one of my favorite movies!
bedazzled
(1,771 posts)i love nichols' "i quit smoking" button...
dweller
(23,673 posts)could be fun 😁
✌🏻
Xolodno
(6,402 posts)...those in glass houses...
Can I do this in my back yard? Amazing.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)So cool.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It could probably work as a painting surface for artists too.
The idea that the trees would be saved is wonderful.
Boats with transparent bottoms! Huge skylights three or four times larger than the ones used now!
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)actually learn to be responsible.
I say we keep trying.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)electric_blue68
(14,955 posts)Well we need a hellaluv lot more trees anyway! Maybe there can be a responsible ratio of plantings for permanence, and planting for transparent wood.
But I really like the idea of using🎋bamboo instead of🌳trees! If it is possible. 🤞
yuiyoshida
(41,867 posts)Hong Kong Cavalier
(4,573 posts)I was hoping someone would post that clip.
NBachers
(17,149 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,867 posts)On ps4 I can rent a movie for 28 days...or just watch it and return it
Happy Hoosier
(7,406 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,867 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,406 posts)lapfog_1
(29,227 posts)and you got yourself a Star Trek Movie..
"tell me where are the nukular wessels?"
what is the proportions of bleached wood to epoxy?
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)epoxy product made for hardening wood thats rotted - I have a bunch of it left over from repairing rotted wood on my 100 yr old house - thik Ill try making some transparent wood tomorrow LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
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BComplex
(8,069 posts)I want some.
PatrickforO
(14,593 posts)BUT, it sounds like we need to plant millions more trees. We do anyway.
Faux pas
(14,695 posts)a wonderful thing!
Wicked Blue
(5,857 posts)Bamboo is far easier and quicker to grow, as well as being sustainable.
electric_blue68
(14,955 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,227 posts)It is not hard to remove lignin from wood. And, it doesn't take hazardous chemicals.
Paper plants remove 80% of the lignin from wood before they chip it to make paper. Makes handling in the pulp section much easier, because the chips are smaller and less sticky.
More lignin components are removed later in the paper making process.
The paper companies refine it to get natural emulsifiers that have use in agricultural application.
They just force high pressure steam through the wood. In about 30 minutes, they move on to dry cooling.
But, another hour would remove 99% of the lignin. That's just an hour & a half for about 6 tons of wood.
It's energy & capital intensive, but not ridiculous. So, it's not a cost thing, really.
And ZERO hazardous chemicals are needed.
The reason that this isn't a common product is not for the reasons stated. More likely it's as simple as lack of demand.
This development might change that demand.
MineralMan
(146,336 posts)While that's interesting, it's not particularly useful, I think. I'm pretty sure this will not produce transparent wood in typical lumber thicknesses, starting at 3/4", which is about 19 mm. Translucent, perhaps, but far from transparent. Further, getting epoxy or other resin to fully penetrate wood of that thickness won't be easy or cheap.
1mm thick wood doesn't have a lot of uses, I'm afraid, and the difficulty with thicker materials seems to make this technology next to useless.