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We need more Bernies! (Original Post) 634-5789 Dec 2020 OP
K n R ! Thanks for posting! nt JoeOtterbein Dec 2020 #1
This was planned with the Democrats ahead of time. They have exactly as many Bernies as LizBeth Dec 2020 #2
Correct. This was SCHUMER'S doing. That's why he pounced out of the box to move.... George II Dec 2020 #8
Ok, thanks Bernie and "SCHUMER". Does he spell it in all caps? Magoo48 Dec 2020 #9
Here's his phone number, give him a call and ask him: (202) 224-6542 George II Dec 2020 #30
You're funny:) Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #62
Uhmmmm...weren't you condemning this just yesterday? progressoid Dec 2020 #19
Nope, not the way it went down today at noon. George II Dec 2020 #20
But yesterday you said this move would turn off potential Democratic voters. progressoid Dec 2020 #23
Not the way it went down today at noon. George II Dec 2020 #26
The difference being that today it came from Schumer and yesterday it came from Bernie. progressoid Dec 2020 #27
Bingo. Doremus Dec 2020 #34
+1000 Celerity Dec 2020 #45
Not at all. So I take it you didn't see how it went down today. George II Dec 2020 #47
OUCH!! mtnsnake Dec 2020 #58
Yes melman Dec 2020 #24
Not indeed. Not in the least. George II Dec 2020 #48
Goodness gracious. LanternWaste Dec 2020 #52
Schumer hadn't thrown his support behind it yet. KPN Dec 2020 #37
Nope. George II Dec 2020 #49
Yup. KPN Dec 2020 #59
Right and Sanders in for the ride. Thanks Sanders, I mean. Better than him stepping out and on toes LizBeth Dec 2020 #28
That's not what you said last night melman Dec 2020 #29
Not the way it went down today at noon. Chuck Schumer orchestrated it perfectly to put the onus on.. George II Dec 2020 #31
You can dredge up as many of my posts as you want, but you're wrong. I never rejected the way.... George II Dec 2020 #50
And you know this how? Source? Fact or belief? KPN Dec 2020 #38
Did you watch the proceedings on the floor of the Senate this morning and shortly after noon? George II Dec 2020 #39
Clearly not George... Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #46
Yes. I guess all these years of hanging out with Pelosi paid off. Brilliant indeed. George II Dec 2020 #53
Now that's funny Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2020 #63
What We Need are More Dem Senators.. GOTV Cha Dec 2020 #11
Yes. DEMOCRATIC Senators. George II Dec 2020 #12
Yes! mikeysnot Dec 2020 #3
K&R CentralMass Dec 2020 #4
K&R TheRickles Dec 2020 #5
+1000 NJCher Dec 2020 #6
Lots More! colsohlibgal Dec 2020 #7
Absolutely, the wealthy and the big corporations have enough representation already. jalan48 Dec 2020 #10
We NEED MORE DEM Senators like GOTV for Cha Dec 2020 #13
No thanks Hav Dec 2020 #14
I totally agree. We don't need any more Bernies who hate our party but use it to run. redstatebluegirl Dec 2020 #16
Bernie does not hate the Democratic party. notinkansas Dec 2020 #32
He gives encouragement for those that do grantcart Dec 2020 #61
I don't doubt that he is better than some notinkansas Dec 2020 #69
Hate? Strikes me the other way around. KPN Dec 2020 #40
can you try and get over the past and look at what is happening TODAY questionseverything Dec 2020 #54
Bernie can be a pain in the arse. IsItJustMe Dec 2020 #25
Agree n/t Paper Roses Dec 2020 #33
Bernie's not perfect. He has flaws, makes mistakes and KPN Dec 2020 #41
THANK YOU Skittles Dec 2020 #42
Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine is backing Bernie's move Duppers Dec 2020 #15
Wow. progressoid Dec 2020 #17
Nice melman Dec 2020 #22
He needs 41 votes treestar Dec 2020 #44
of course he can't....it is going to take the entire democratic coalition questionseverything Dec 2020 #55
Damn straight. The average renter is in the hole 6K. 2K is the leasat we can do. Evolve Dammit Dec 2020 #18
Okay bdamomma Dec 2020 #21
Yes we do! I am proud of his efforts mvd Dec 2020 #35
No, we need more progressives. No more worship. nolabear Dec 2020 #36
no one is working against joe at all questionseverything Dec 2020 #57
This will annoy the bingo wing Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2020 #43
Ageist, a little? Nitram Dec 2020 #67
One Bernie is all the Bernies we need. But I'm glad to see The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #51
I can definitely agree with that mtnsnake Dec 2020 #56
Yeah, Bernie's great, but he isn't doing this alone. Let's start by giving credit to Pelosi. Nitram Dec 2020 #60
Nancy deserves a lot of credit for sure, and she received a lot of credit on DU for mtnsnake Dec 2020 #66
Good! I'm now waiting for the pontificating on the sacred nature of a day. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #64
I almost didn't Rec this because I'm tired of the back and forth that happens here about Bernie Tom Rinaldo Dec 2020 #65
I do like the way Bernie puts down Rat Face (Putin) and the little pukes who serve him. gulliver Dec 2020 #68

LizBeth

(9,953 posts)
2. This was planned with the Democrats ahead of time. They have exactly as many Bernies as
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 01:48 PM
Dec 2020

they wanted for the statement being made.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Correct. This was SCHUMER'S doing. That's why he pounced out of the box to move....
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 03:08 PM
Dec 2020

....consideration of the $2000 bill via unanimous consent ahead of the Defense bill. You could see McConnell seething.

Schumer did a great job this morning (other than getting a couple of pages mixed up, I felt bad for him there). He's clearly learning from Speaker Pelosi.

progressoid

(50,012 posts)
19. Uhmmmm...weren't you condemning this just yesterday?
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 03:49 PM
Dec 2020

When Merkey said he would join Sanders to get a vote on $2000?

KPN

(15,677 posts)
37. Schumer hadn't thrown his support behind it yet.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:39 PM
Dec 2020

It was pretty much Bernie and Markey till this morning. They led the way.

LizBeth

(9,953 posts)
28. Right and Sanders in for the ride. Thanks Sanders, I mean. Better than him stepping out and on toes
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:11 PM
Dec 2020

saying he would not vote for Pelosi bill, stopping her momentum what 3 weeks ago?

George II

(67,782 posts)
31. Not the way it went down today at noon. Chuck Schumer orchestrated it perfectly to put the onus on..
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:14 PM
Dec 2020

....the republicans.

That's Senator (and Minority Leader) Charles Ellis Schumer, the man who some feel should be replaced.

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. You can dredge up as many of my posts as you want, but you're wrong. I never rejected the way....
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 07:47 PM
Dec 2020

....it went down today.

I think you can find the video on C-Span.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
7. Lots More!
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 03:07 PM
Dec 2020

Republicans who are against this were all in on massive tax breaks for Billionaires which affects the vaunted debt at least as much as helping those in need.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
14. No thanks
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 03:26 PM
Dec 2020

Another populist who joins the Dem party every 4 years to trash it and creates resentment from within isn't needed.
There are probably many things I agree with him but his tactic to basically win the primary by running against the party is too toxic.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
32. Bernie does not hate the Democratic party.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:20 PM
Dec 2020

He is a fierce advocate for ordinary Americans, and if some Democrats are not inclined to do that, they deserve to be called out.

They should all be Bernies.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
61. He gives encouragement for those that do
Wed Dec 30, 2020, 01:32 PM
Dec 2020

One of his main surrogates aid voting for Biden was like eating a "half bowl of shit".

If Bernie had never run for President I would consider him one of the best Senators but his need to brand himself as better than Democrats has hurt our solidarity.

Having said that this filibuster is brilliant and I admire him for it.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
69. I don't doubt that he is better than some
Wed Dec 30, 2020, 03:07 PM
Dec 2020

who call themselves Democrats but then vote like republicans.

Party solidarity should not trump rebuke of bad policy.

I'm really thankful that he is taking this stand with the filibuster. I agree completely - it is admirable.

questionseverything

(9,666 posts)
54. can you try and get over the past and look at what is happening TODAY
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 08:07 PM
Dec 2020

bernie and the entire dem coalition are fighting for two grand checks for Americans' that really need them

leader Pelosi has gotten a great simple stand alone bill passed and bernie is working within the democratic coalition to get it a vote

if mcconnell will not give it a vote it is going to hurt those repub senators in georgia which might be even better than the 2 grand

now is our chance to give biden an honest chance at being able to govern

bernie is just fighting for an idea senator harris introduced months ago



stronger together

IsItJustMe

(7,012 posts)
25. Bernie can be a pain in the arse.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:05 PM
Dec 2020

His independence and individualism does, at times, rub people the wrong way. And yet, at other times, he can be right where he needs to be doing exactly what he needs to be doing. This is one of those times.

KPN

(15,677 posts)
41. Bernie's not perfect. He has flaws, makes mistakes and
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:49 PM
Dec 2020

even had blind spots like all of us. Because he doesn’t pledge fealty to the Democratic Party and would rather take, support or oppose positions based on his reasoning and personal experience, he gets judged harshly for his imperfections. ... Overall, while he may be a pain in the arise from the Party perspective sometimes, far more often than not he says and does what needs to be said and done.

questionseverything

(9,666 posts)
55. of course he can't....it is going to take the entire democratic coalition
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 08:12 PM
Dec 2020

schumer is on board

we are either going to get the people more survival money or make the repubs like like scrooges in georgia

win/win

mvd

(65,185 posts)
35. Yes we do! I am proud of his efforts
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:33 PM
Dec 2020

Also really happy with Pelosi and Schumer - if they can maneuver the $2000 into passing, there should be appreciation threads for all three all over DU!

nolabear

(42,002 posts)
36. No, we need more progressives. No more worship.
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 04:36 PM
Dec 2020

Progressives are important and carry the weight of “the people.” Working for those goals as a leader and marshal of those energies is a great job for Bernie. I appreciate that. But I’m much more in favor of Joe’s efforts at selecting a broad array of people who can make the case, do the job and move things forward in a way that stops reactionary responses.

questionseverything

(9,666 posts)
57. no one is working against joe at all
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 08:19 PM
Dec 2020

this is senate work to be done while president elect biden is getting his admin in order

heck vp elect harris originally sponsored the bill with the 2 grand idea, no one is against either if them

ole moscow mitch is in a corner, trump said he wants people to have 2 grand, leader pelosi quickly got the 2 grand bill passed with bi partisian support, now our democratic coalition in the senate (which includes bernie) is trying to get us a vote

if mitch won't let the senate vote on pelosi's well crafted stand alone bill they are going to look baddddddddddd in georgia

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,976 posts)
51. One Bernie is all the Bernies we need. But I'm glad to see
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 07:48 PM
Dec 2020

that he's making himself useful instead of just griping about Biden's cabinet choices.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
56. I can definitely agree with that
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 08:17 PM
Dec 2020

A few more Bernies would be awesome. Throw in a few more Bidens and Obamas, too, as well as a couple more Katie Porters. And throw in at least one Teddy Roosevelt with a D instead of an R after his name .

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
66. Nancy deserves a lot of credit for sure, and she received a lot of credit on DU for
Wed Dec 30, 2020, 02:17 PM
Dec 2020

getting the ball rolling on this by calling Trump's bluff.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,578 posts)
64. Good! I'm now waiting for the pontificating on the sacred nature of a day.
Wed Dec 30, 2020, 01:48 PM
Dec 2020

A day that holds a small amount of symbolic meaning, and nothing more, other than adding a tick to the calendar.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,919 posts)
65. I almost didn't Rec this because I'm tired of the back and forth that happens here about Bernie
Wed Dec 30, 2020, 01:49 PM
Dec 2020

Bernie isn't perfect and he isn't the only role model for the type of elected officials that we need more of. We need propagandists, we need negotiators, we need consensus builders, we need movement builders, we need realists, we need idealists, we need Party builders, and we need those who don't go along just to get along, Mostly though we need more leaders who are not beholden to Big Money and status quo corporate interests, and instead defend the interests of average Americans who must struggle to get by. Bernie is one of those, but he isn't the only one who qualifies. Bernie isn't always right when it comes to policies, but far more often then not he is. So, yeah, I agree with the OP.

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