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Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:03 PM Dec 2020

A different view of the Nashville Bomber.

Last edited Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:24 PM - Edit history (1)

It looks like the Nashville Bomber ..blew himself up...He is dead..

He warned people of event to come....It seems he wanted to kill himself...(who knows why?)
....over and over he warned ...

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Oklahoma Bombers...Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols...no warning...many killed...
165 deaths...800 injuries....

No matter how this is played in the media....or how much coverage it gets...Nashville Bombing
is not the same as other awful events..

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Nashville could have been worse, much worse....And we have seen much worse.

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A different view of the Nashville Bomber. (Original Post) Stuart G Dec 2020 OP
I actually feel sorry for the guy. His mother is still alive. It's tragic Walleye Dec 2020 #1
I agree. Tragic story, but not as bad as others.. Stuart G Dec 2020 #3
No not nearly as bad. Just a tragic story of a misguided mind, I guess Walleye Dec 2020 #6
He hurt people and did millions of dollars of economic damage exboyfil Dec 2020 #7
Cry me a freaking river. LisaL Dec 2020 #12
What exactly is totally different about this view? LisaL Dec 2020 #2
The view is that Nashville Bombing was a horrific event... Stuart G Dec 2020 #9
Just because it wasn't as bad as some other acts, doesn't make it good. LisaL Dec 2020 #11
Where did the OP say it was "good"? onenote Dec 2020 #28
A suicide that crippled a portion of communications infrastructure for a day sweetloukillbot Dec 2020 #16
Forewarning was considerate of the human factors,... but what was his grievance all about ? magicarpet Dec 2020 #4
What's important to know is his motivation - and whether it is just the beginning NRaleighLiberal Dec 2020 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #27
Without knowing his motive, it's impossible to draw any conclusions. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #8
Well said..We will not know Nashville bombers motives..He was not intending to kill people.. Stuart G Dec 2020 #13
Well, I think a large explosion in a major American city on Christmas morning was certainly a news cwydro Dec 2020 #20
Agree nt Raine Dec 2020 #10
I think the guy committed suicide, but didn't want to just shoot himself sitting at home. Hoyt Dec 2020 #14
That's what I think too Raine Dec 2020 #17
I expect we'll find he had grievences with AT&T... joshcryer Dec 2020 #18
Yes, I think that's most likely. cwydro Dec 2020 #22
Yes. It's very sad, but glad he went out of his way to avoid killing innocents. Hoyt Dec 2020 #23
He wanted to go out with a bang. joshcryer Dec 2020 #15
Agree totally with last sentence. " We need mental health in this country." Hoyt Dec 2020 #19
7 Words that need to be repeated..."We need mental health in this country" Stuart G Dec 2020 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2020 #26
He was a demented Trumpian - feel sorry for him alittlelark Dec 2020 #24
Link to his being a "Trumpian"? onenote Dec 2020 #29
Scuttlebut says he was a 5G conspiracy nut. SharonAnn Dec 2020 #25
Checking out like that is way wrong. Roisin Ni Fiachra Dec 2020 #30
His idea of a warning does not in any way take away from his horrible crime. panader0 Dec 2020 #31

Walleye

(31,056 posts)
6. No not nearly as bad. Just a tragic story of a misguided mind, I guess
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:11 PM
Dec 2020

Not a manifestation of hatred

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
7. He hurt people and did millions of dollars of economic damage
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:13 PM
Dec 2020

All his choice. I don't feel sorry for him at all. Just because he wasn't as big a monster as McVeigh doesn't mean I should have sympathy for him.

He also put a whole bunch of people at risk.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
9. The view is that Nashville Bombing was a horrific event...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:22 PM
Dec 2020

The most important part of the Nashville event is who was killed...


The Oklahoma Bombing was far more horrific than this..

The media reported this in the beginning as horrific similar events....
look at the immediate coverage after the Nashville bombing



They are totally different events, not the way it was originally reported as similar. In beginning of coverage there is total fear, pictures of the car blowing up, etc....very few reports on people killed..
Just explosions ....blowing up and fear.....................

.....exactly the same as Oklahoma. The media.did NOT report that this was suicide till much later. ....

.... For some time we were led to believe there were lots of deaths. ..I believed that till truth was
broadcast later. The initial coverage was world wide and nation wide...without confirmation of deaths.
As if we were experiencing the same as before.....and.........IT WAS NOT THE SAME AS BEFORE

I wonder how many people here at Democratic Underground thought this was another horrible event in the
first reports....As all the news focused on Nashville..Yes...All the news!!! In reality this was a ...............

............local news event of a suicide which warned people to stay away from the camper....
..........NOT NATIONAL OR WORLD WIDE NEWS.......as I originally thought and many others thought...



sweetloukillbot

(11,070 posts)
16. A suicide that crippled a portion of communications infrastructure for a day
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:53 PM
Dec 2020

So yeah, there was more to it than local man was depressed.
And I never heard reports that there were casualties.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,021 posts)
5. What's important to know is his motivation - and whether it is just the beginning
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:09 PM
Dec 2020

of similar events linked to trump's stochastic terrorism.

Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #5)

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,858 posts)
8. Without knowing his motive, it's impossible to draw any conclusions.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:17 PM
Dec 2020

Evidently he was not intending to kill people; however, was he trying to damage AT&T (which is, in fact, what happened)? If so, why? Knocking out communications for a large area could result in deaths - 911 was affected, as was air traffic control at the airport - and it's just luck that nothing really bad happened as a result. A few people also could have been killed in the AT&T building even though it was early in the morning on a holiday. Either he didn't think about any of those possibilities or he didn't care. It's possible that his motive will never be known. We have never learned the motive of the guy who shot up the music festival in Las Vegas and then killed himself, either.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
13. Well said..We will not know Nashville bombers motives..He was not intending to kill people..
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:42 PM
Dec 2020

My point is the initial coverage was exactly the same. The fear was all over the country of another
major event....

...In due respect , I would argue that this fellow blowing up a building on a holiday, early in the morning
was indication that he did not want to kill others.. Downtown on a holiday..is not the intent of killing lots
of people....Further, the fellow probably did not think about ...air traffic control, and knocking out
communications that might result in deaths..What he did think of was ....early in the morning on
a major holiday, Christmas, when no one would be downtown....(and no one was downtown)...

My point is that the initial coverage was the same, and that coverage caused fear throughout
the entire country. It was really ....local news where one person was killed.

Initially, the fear about the event that was created was far greater than the event itself demanded. ...

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
20. Well, I think a large explosion in a major American city on Christmas morning was certainly a news
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:59 PM
Dec 2020

event that was bound to garner national attention.

I don’t think the number of people killed really should decide what kind of news coverage an event receives.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. I think the guy committed suicide, but didn't want to just shoot himself sitting at home.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:49 PM
Dec 2020

I'm not sure there is any political motive. Think he was just a depressed old guy with broken down dreams.

His bomb was nowhere near as powerful as Oklahoma City.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
17. That's what I think too
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:53 PM
Dec 2020

people who knew him said he didn't talk about politics or religion, he just wanted to die IMO.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
18. I expect we'll find he had grievences with AT&T...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:54 PM
Dec 2020

...and I don't think necessarily 5G conspiracies though it may be seen as such. I expect we'll find out he was a contractor who got shafted by AT&T or AT&T's business practices. Pure speculation here.

But yeah, other than that I agree with you. We really dodged one this time, because he could've instead have chosen to do this during a Christmas parade or something.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. Yes, I think that's most likely.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:02 PM
Dec 2020

Sad story, but I don’t think there were the political motivations so many here wanted there to be.

“First shot” in an imminent civil war, and all that blather.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. Yes. It's very sad, but glad he went out of his way to avoid killing innocents.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:31 PM
Dec 2020

It was still close though, but it’s not like he was thinking rationally.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
15. He wanted to go out with a bang.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:52 PM
Dec 2020

While I do think his method is atrocious and deplorable he did make every effort not to harm lives. His target was property. When Paddock "went out with a bang" like he did, I expected another attack of that style in the future. However, I am grateful that this man, while a similar attack, chose not to harm other people. And it gives me hope that there won't be more "Paddocks" out there. Older lonely men, with the means, and the time, to plan some activity that harms life or property as they check out.

Richard "Sky King" Russell was another guy like that, though much younger, he chose to steal and crash a plane in his sad depressed state. He wanted to go out in a bang as well.

We need mental health in this country.

Stuart G

(38,448 posts)
21. 7 Words that need to be repeated..."We need mental health in this country"
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:01 PM
Dec 2020

And, that mental health needs to be available to everyone in the U.S.A....

Thank You ..joshcryer for posting those words

Response to joshcryer (Reply #15)

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
24. He was a demented Trumpian - feel sorry for him
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:33 PM
Dec 2020

Cuz CRAZY should be taken care of by our SOCIETY - but our society is SICK.

No help.

onenote

(42,767 posts)
29. Link to his being a "Trumpian"?
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 09:06 AM
Dec 2020

All I've seen so far is that he was apolitical. Not even a registered voter.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
31. His idea of a warning does not in any way take away from his horrible crime.
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 09:18 AM
Dec 2020

He should have committed suicide at home, preferably outside so as not to make a mess
in the house. It's only by blind luck that no one was killed. 911 services were affected--what
was the damage from that? How much will it cost the taxpayers to repair the structures?
How many people were terrorized by this and worry at every RV? Fuck that guy, he won't get
one iota of sympathy from me. He was just another brainwashed idiot clinging to some
equally idiotic conspiracy theory.

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