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Nina Turner has filed to run for Rep. Marcia Fudge's seat. (Original Post) Autumn Dec 2020 OP
Are there any Democrats running? Renew Deal Dec 2020 #1
LOL. I really wish that Biden would have chosen someone who was not an active member still_one Dec 2020 #3
:) I'm sure there will be. An article suggesting Democrats were already Hortensis Dec 2020 #4
I hope so. The disgusting statements she made during the general election about Joe Biden. still_one Dec 2020 #9
Rep. Fudge was reelected by 80% of the vote and President-Elect Biden Hortensis Dec 2020 #11
Good. Thanks for the background still_one Dec 2020 #15
Yes, Nina Turner Lordquinton Dec 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee Dec 2020 #26
What happened to that party she was putting together to compete with Democrats? Squinch Dec 2020 #2
I hope there are Democrats who are running for Rep. Fudge seat, because Nina Turner still_one Dec 2020 #8
There are a couple. Marcia Fudge is endorsing octoberlib Dec 2020 #20
Thanks. Good to hear still_one Dec 2020 #23
Let's have only one Democrat run against her AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #30
Who will run against her as the Democrat? hlthe2b Dec 2020 #5
God she's annoying... Chicago1980 Dec 2020 #6
Running as the Democratic Socialist candidate I imagine. Good luck! redstateblues Dec 2020 #7
Yeah I liked her and voted for her. The Clintons did much for her...and stabbed Hillary in the back. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #16
Yes, the Clintons did a lot for here. R B Garr Dec 2020 #21
Ms. Turner has attacked the Democratic Party repeatedly, trashed both Clintons and Biden , Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #31
Is she changing parties again? Cameliano Dec 2020 #10
She's running as a Democrat after she founded octoberlib Dec 2020 #19
The Democratic Party is used and abused by people like her. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #36
I hope there is a better qualified dem to run in this county Bev54 Dec 2020 #12
There won't be a worse qualified one. :) Shontel Brown and Hortensis Dec 2020 #13
LOL so true. Bev54 Dec 2020 #14
Marcia Fudge has endorsed city councilwoman octoberlib Dec 2020 #18
That is my guy then...Nina...no. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #29
Is this the same Nina Turner who compared Biden to a "BOWL OF SHIT"?? That one?? NurseJackie Dec 2020 #22
or was it "shit sandwich"? Demonaut Dec 2020 #24
Here's the quote as it appears in the link (above): NurseJackie Dec 2020 #25
you're right, she said Biden was "half a bowl of shit" Demonaut Dec 2020 #27
+1. She also said Biden "repeatedly betrayed" black voters dalton99a Dec 2020 #39
I will vote for a Democrat thanks so much for thinking of us Ms. Turner...now don't you Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #28
Ah, the battle against the invasion of the anti-Democrats Hortensis Dec 2020 #34
I live in Cleveland. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #37
Glad you'll be able to vote. They're very ruthless and dirty, Hortensis Dec 2020 #41
I hate Sirota with a passion...yeah they are dirty...we will be watching. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #51
From the front lines. Gird those loins, because they'd Hortensis Dec 2020 #52
The same one who calls Biden-Harris the "neoliberal" (i.e. laissez-faire conservative) Hortensis Dec 2020 #32
+1 betsuni Dec 2020 #33
She needs to lose in the primary by a wide margin. LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #35
I do not believe she will do well. MineralMan Dec 2020 #38
I hope people don't take it for granted that she wouldn't do well, this will be a low turnout OnDoutside Dec 2020 #42
Well, I don't live in nor do I vote in that state. MineralMan Dec 2020 #43
And yet you felt exercised enough to comment in the thread ? OnDoutside Dec 2020 #45
My comment was about Nina Turner. MineralMan Dec 2020 #47
As indeed you do. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #48
As I will continue to do. MineralMan Dec 2020 #49
I have no doubt that you will. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #50
You can't tell me that Nina Turner-DEM stands for Democrat DFW Dec 2020 #40
been lazy and spoiled about local campaigns Chili Dec 2020 #44
Please do, it would be terrible to sleepwalk into a self-inflicted disaster. OnDoutside Dec 2020 #46

still_one

(92,508 posts)
3. LOL. I really wish that Biden would have chosen someone who was not an active member
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 09:08 PM
Dec 2020

of the House such as Representative Fudge. We have such a narrow lead there, and I think we are taking unecessary risks with the majority lead by doing this


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. :) I'm sure there will be. An article suggesting Democrats were already
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 09:09 PM
Dec 2020

planning runs before Fudge's appointment, and mentioning Turner also, is unfortunately behind a pay wall.

OH-11 is 100% urban and "With a Cook Partisan Voting Index of D+32, it is the most Democratic district in Ohio and the 19th most Democratic district in the nation."

The answer to any questions about why Turner would abandon her principles to run as a corrupt corporatist Democrat.

still_one

(92,508 posts)
9. I hope so. The disgusting statements she made during the general election about Joe Biden.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 09:17 PM
Dec 2020

from my perspective, indicate she isn't the person to fill the shoes of Rep. Fudge


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Rep. Fudge was reelected by 80% of the vote and President-Elect Biden
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 09:29 PM
Dec 2020

beat Trump by a wide margin in OH-11.

Turner's anti-Democratic/anti-Biden attitude may come back to bite her. Imagine HUD Secretary Fudge will be endorsing one of her Democratic opponents.

Response to Lordquinton (Reply #17)

Squinch

(51,084 posts)
2. What happened to that party she was putting together to compete with Democrats?
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 09:07 PM
Dec 2020

And her very loudly and offensively proclaimed hatred for Democrats?

still_one

(92,508 posts)
8. I hope there are Democrats who are running for Rep. Fudge seat, because Nina Turner
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 09:15 PM
Dec 2020

made some extremely disgusting statements about President-Elect Joe Biden during the general election, which indicated where she is coming from, which isn't a good place


octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
20. There are a couple. Marcia Fudge is endorsing
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 05:26 AM
Dec 2020

City Councilwoman Shontel Brown but there’s also a guy running. Can’t remember his name.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
30. Let's have only one Democrat run against her
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 09:59 AM
Dec 2020

Otherwise those two would divide the votes and benefiting NT.

NT should not win that primary. We need a lifelong and true Democrat.

Demsrule86

(68,799 posts)
16. Yeah I liked her and voted for her. The Clintons did much for her...and stabbed Hillary in the back.
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 10:15 PM
Dec 2020

She went off the rails during the 16 primary. She has said she is not a Democrat.

R B Garr

(17,012 posts)
21. Yes, the Clintons did a lot for here.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 07:39 AM
Dec 2020

Bill raised money on her behalf, etc. Now she tees off on the Clinton’s — even though Bernie lost twice.

Demsrule86

(68,799 posts)
31. Ms. Turner has attacked the Democratic Party repeatedly, trashed both Clintons and Biden ,
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 10:01 AM
Dec 2020

supported a right to life candidate in Nebraska and lectured us on what our party should and should not accept, she has black balled Democratic candidates in her former group 'Our revolution'. And said she was more than willing to support Republican candidates. And had started some sort of party to steal votes from us before becoming a lobbyist.

 

Cameliano

(54 posts)
10. Is she changing parties again?
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 09:20 PM
Dec 2020

Or will she stay in that party that she switched to?
I don't even remember the name.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
19. She's running as a Democrat after she founded
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 05:23 AM
Dec 2020

The People’s Party to oppose Democrats. She wants access tothose Democratic donor lists and infrastructure.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. There won't be a worse qualified one. :) Shontel Brown and
Wed Dec 9, 2020, 09:39 PM
Dec 2020

Jeff Johnson are two Dems who've announced already, with a crowded election expected. Fudge reportedly has been mentoring Brown and helped her obtain her current position.

Brown and Johnson are unlikely to be the only candidates who make a bid for Congress. The seat is a generational opportunity for a Northeast Ohio Democrat, with only three people representing the historical boundaries of the district since 1969: Louis Stokes, Tubbs Jones and Fudge.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. Is this the same Nina Turner who compared Biden to a "BOWL OF SHIT"?? That one??
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 07:42 AM
Dec 2020

Last edited Thu Dec 10, 2020, 09:20 AM - Edit history (1)

I do not believe that will help her. She doesn't have a very good history of winning competitive elections. She's also an avowed supporter of Jill Stein. She voted for Jill Stein over Hillary (just like Susan Sarandon, just like Michael Moore)

Nina Turner is a gadfly.

Here: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nina-turner-joe-biden_n_5f200c04c5b638cfec49ecd5

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. Here's the quote as it appears in the link (above):
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 09:39 AM
Dec 2020

Here's the quote as it appears in the link (above):

Nina Turner, assessing the choice of Biden against President Donald Trump in the November presidential election, told The Atlantic: “It’s like saying to somebody, ‘You have a bowl of shit in front of you, and all you’ve got to do is eat half of it instead of the whole thing.’ It’s still shit.”

Nina Turner is such a crude, vulgar and classless woman. I can't stand her.

Demsrule86

(68,799 posts)
28. I will vote for a Democrat thanks so much for thinking of us Ms. Turner...now don't you
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 09:55 AM
Dec 2020

have lobbying work to get back to or that new party you have started that is supposed to steal votes from Democrats or something. I intend to work for a primary candidate something I don't do very often...I will work for a Democrat, vote for a Democrat in the primary and vote for a Democrat in the election. Best wishes Ms. Turner no really.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Ah, the battle against the invasion of the anti-Democrats
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 10:59 AM
Dec 2020

is in your district? Good for you. I don't normally send outside money to local races, because it is contrary to the principles of representative government, but you all are going to need a whole lot of volunteers to offset the shitpile of outside money she's going to swamp the election with -- and all the dirty tactics it's to pay for.

A combination that's gotten McConnell reelected for 30 years of betrayal of the people of his state, because it works. Fortunately, the Democrats of OH-11 have been electing their own to represent them for even longer.

Demsrule86

(68,799 posts)
37. I live in Cleveland.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 11:33 AM
Dec 2020

I will be moving to Austintown as hubs got a new job but will go back and forth until this is done so I can vote for someone other than MS. Turner in the primary and election...whoever, must be a Democrat.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. Glad you'll be able to vote. They're very ruthless and dirty,
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 12:12 PM
Dec 2020

SOP for that crowd. The only way they could knock out serious opposition from a Democrat would be by character assassination and deceit, and they're experts at that. They've even corrupted the meanings of many words to create their own vocabulary specially designed to deceive those who trust them and take out Democrats.

Here's Turner's buddy Sirota on the evil Democrats presiding over "the darkest timeline as the world burns." So: Taking charge of the executive branch on January 20 will only accelerate America's decent into a corrupt, corporatist hell.



And here WE think we did good. Go get 'em, Demsrule86!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
32. The same one who calls Biden-Harris the "neoliberal" (i.e. laissez-faire conservative)
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 10:43 AM
Dec 2020

wing of the Democratic Party.

I just read down her Twitter account, and her content regarding Democrats is frankly disgusting. No mention, for instance, of what Dems in congress have done and are fighting for, only constant dishonest false equivalencies of us and Republicans via hits against a corrupt and uncaring "congress." Here's one where we are referred to separately, though: "...we need a Democratic Party that fights for voters, not corporate donors." Not a nice word for Democrats to be found, but then we are the evil uncaring landlords of congress, and soon the WH too.




She retweets a long Cornell West smear on Democrats about how Sanders was crushed by "neoliberalism." "Neoliberalism" is an oxymoron -- it means the hard-right, anti-government, anti-regulation, anti-progressive ideology adopted by the Republican leaders and their donor classes 40 years ago. Which is not nearly as long as Democrats have been fighting neoliberal economic policies, but Turner and West lie like Trumps by smearing Democrats with that term. In their version, Sanders was crushed between two inimical forces: the greedy corporatist "neoliberal" Democrats and the greedy corporatist AND neofascist Republicans.

Yes, he calls Republicans fascist but strictly for the purpose of smearing Democrats with their sins. While Democrats have been battling the fascistic tactics of the right and the real danger of a RW authoritarian takeover, Turner's feed is remarkably empty of attention to anything that might differentiate or cause anyone to remember the noble ideals and desperate need for the Democratic Party.

But she filed as a Democrat because that's the only way to win in that district.

Speaking of donors, also disgusting is that she's coming into this race with a huge amount of outside Big Money to swamp what local politicians will be raising from the actual local residents of OH-11.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
38. I do not believe she will do well.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 11:36 AM
Dec 2020

I do not believe she should do well.

I do not care for her even one little bit.

OnDoutside

(19,986 posts)
42. I hope people don't take it for granted that she wouldn't do well, this will be a low turnout
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 12:17 PM
Dec 2020

election, and ridiculously bizarre results can happen. That's how Ted Cruz got elected and that's how a senior Dem like Joe Crowley lost.

MineralMan

(146,351 posts)
47. My comment was about Nina Turner.
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 12:37 PM
Dec 2020

I do not consider her to be a Democrat. She is only one when she needs to be. That isn't right.

I will comment here as I see fit.

Chili

(1,725 posts)
44. been lazy and spoiled about local campaigns
Thu Dec 10, 2020, 12:33 PM
Dec 2020

When you have Louis Stokes, Stephanie Tubbs-Jones and Marcia Fudge to vote for, it's pretty easy. Now, THIS can't happen. Will have to get involved somehow this time.

My neighbor across the street is with the DNC. I will get with him.

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