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TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:33 AM Dec 2020

Just Take A Minute To Fathom This: Trump Is Threatening To VETO a DEFENSE BILL Because...

...he's throwing a hissy fit at TWITTER for flagging his comments.

That's right. There's a Republican President who is holding America's NATIONAL DEFENSE HOSTAGE until Congress punishes fucking TWITTER for hurting his little FEEWINGS!



I'll tell you what, Republicans. Don't ever claim to be the party of national security again! Just don't even BOTHER with that bullshit again.

Oh yeah...and unless 'family values' now includes getting your ass spanked by a porno movie star with a FORBES magazine, while your third wife is at home nursing your kid, you can just knock THAT bullshit off, too!

The Republican Party, in the age of Trump, has finally revealed itself to have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEOLOGY. Free trade...blah blah blah...family values...blah blah blah...fiscal responsibility...yadda yadda... FUCK OFF! You HAVE NO IDEOLOGY, NO MORALITY, and NO PRINCIPLES. You don't even believe in DEMOCRACY anymore. You liked it when democracy won elections for you. Then you liked the Electoral College better, when you started losing on numbers. And now that you're losing on BOTH numbers AND the Electoral College, you just want the Supreme Court, or a hand full of State legislators to just THROW OUT election results, altogether. Just support ANY convoluted formula of anti-democratic machinations that Mark Levin, or Greg Jarrett can claim is 'constitutional,' as long as it lets YOUR 'side' win.

You don't believe in ANYTHING anymore. You're strictly a TRIBAL PARTY, like Saddam Hussein's 'dead enders' in Tikrit. You support the Republican Party because it's the party of white rural America, and THAT'S IT.

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Just Take A Minute To Fathom This: Trump Is Threatening To VETO a DEFENSE BILL Because... (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Dec 2020 OP
Where did you hear this? NurseJackie Dec 2020 #1
I can't provide a link but it had to be CNN or MSNBC - that's where I get patricia92243 Dec 2020 #2
Thanks. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #10
Here Cirque du So-What Dec 2020 #3
Thanks for the link! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #8
Twitter has just as many RW freaks as other social media. efhmc Dec 2020 #38
And unfortunately, their bot tech hasn't kept up... keep_left Dec 2020 #47
But the liberals who are savvy call them out daily. efhmc Dec 2020 #54
It's on all the news outlets Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #4
Thank you! NurseJackie Dec 2020 #9
... Ferrets are Cool Dec 2020 #11
"Very beautiful Resolute Desk"? maxsolomon Dec 2020 #42
This is so spot on! Thank you. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2020 #5
The T(ea) Party was always the Trump Party LiberalArkie Dec 2020 #30
It's the trump party now. mwb970 Dec 2020 #6
"The Republican Party was fucking Alderaan" My Pet Orangutan Dec 2020 #14
I pretty much figured it was over when Trump started his moronic trade war... keep_left Dec 2020 #48
So let him veto it johnnyfins Dec 2020 #7
Yes! Because where does a vetoed bill go..?? Grins Dec 2020 #45
They have beliefs -- This is what they believe vlyons Dec 2020 #12
Pro- Forced births. Blue_playwright Dec 2020 #19
Graft and Graft and Graft. Tommymac Dec 2020 #46
Life begins at conception and ends at birth. belpejic Dec 2020 #51
It's easier to ask forgiveness than seek permission. LakeArenal Dec 2020 #53
"The Republican Party, in the age of Trump"...Nope, this happened before, its just that the Escurumbele Dec 2020 #13
What an excellent rant! Worthy of a Nance Greggs gold medal! erronis Dec 2020 #15
The GOP has no party platform of principles, policies, beliefs, values, ideology, morality, or goals keithbvadu2 Dec 2020 #16
+1 ancianita Dec 2020 #40
Hissy fits, just wait until he finds out his movements are tracked by the Secret Service. gordianot Dec 2020 #17
And if he's no longer president ... Blue_playwright Dec 2020 #20
Right, as well as protect State Secrets to the CIC. gordianot Dec 2020 #24
I'd be willing to be he doesn't really know how a tap works. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #34
He may have once known how it works very debatable now. gordianot Dec 2020 #49
So glad the grownups are in charge Yeehah Dec 2020 #18
You're in the minority. maxsolomon Dec 2020 #43
NBD. Just override the Veto. no_hypocrisy Dec 2020 #21
I was on my way "downthread" to ask about that. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #35
Excellent post. Thank you! LaMouffette Dec 2020 #22
#Trump wants to defund the military. cheri010353 Dec 2020 #23
EXCELLENT idea!! BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #36
"Defund the police? Hell, I'm going to defund the military!" panader0 Dec 2020 #25
Yes, THAT is how you frame it - Trump wants to Defund the Military bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #32
THAT is a righteous rant!!! CaptainTruth Dec 2020 #26
"I want you to do me a favor though..." Trump to US Military, on Pearl Harbor Day 2020 FailureToCommunicate Dec 2020 #27
Grumpy Old Party Brainfodder Dec 2020 #28
It's a lot more than the party of White rural America Martin Eden Dec 2020 #29
Trump is willing to put America and our allies @ risk because he is pissed that Twitter flagged ... Botany Dec 2020 #31
Who Wrote This? ConstanceCee Dec 2020 #33
He wrote it, because of the superfluous adjectives. maxsolomon Dec 2020 #44
TrollBuster - that's one of the best rants I've ever seen on DU. So true!!! BComplex Dec 2020 #37
Trump Vows To Veto Defense Bill Unless Shield For Big Tech Is Scrapped per NPR. Link napi21 Dec 2020 #39
I hope the Pentagon & Military are Cha Dec 2020 #41
NOT the party of "white rural America" orangecrush Dec 2020 #50
Thanks For The Informative Title FrankTC Dec 2020 #52

Cirque du So-What

(26,027 posts)
3. Here
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:11 AM
Dec 2020
Mr. Trump made his threat in a pair of late-night tweets, in which he said Congress must include a repeal of the law known as Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act in the $740 billion National Defense Authorization Act for it to receive his signature. The president has for months been pressuring Congress to strip social media companies of the protections they receive under the 24-year-old law, claiming platforms like Twitter and Facebook censor and suppress conservative speech.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-threatens-veto-defense-bill-section-230-repeal/#app

efhmc

(14,736 posts)
38. Twitter has just as many RW freaks as other social media.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 01:31 PM
Dec 2020

Just log on and saying something negative about freaky 45 and you can see. They are not censured. Misinformation is.

keep_left

(1,798 posts)
47. And unfortunately, their bot tech hasn't kept up...
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 05:51 PM
Dec 2020

...with the propagandists. The pandemic dezinformatsiya peddlers deliberately misspell words to get around the bots, e.g. "Coronuu", "Coronka".

Ferrets are Cool

(21,116 posts)
4. It's on all the news outlets
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:12 AM
Dec 2020
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-12-02/trump-threatens-veto-defense-bill

President Trump on Tuesday night threatened to veto the annual defense appropriations bill unless Congress abolishes a law that protects technology companies from liability over most content published by their users.

In a tweet, he called Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act “a serious threat to our National Security & Election Integrity.”

“Therefore, if the very dangerous & unfair Section 230 is not completely terminated as part of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), I will be forced to unequivocally VETO the Bill when sent to the very beautiful Resolute desk. Take back America NOW. Thank you!” Trump wrote on Twitter — one of the platforms shielded from liability.

maxsolomon

(33,449 posts)
42. "Very beautiful Resolute Desk"?
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 05:14 PM
Dec 2020

He's such a weirdo.

Twitter needs to go back to 140 characters, or kill itself. Either way.

mwb970

(11,375 posts)
6. It's the trump party now.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:22 AM
Dec 2020

There is no republican party. trump killed it dead. All "republican values" have been thrown out the window. There is only trump and the trump party now, and the only purpose of the trump party is to protect trump from being held accountable for his words and deeds. When trump is gone, the trump party is gone.

keep_left

(1,798 posts)
48. I pretty much figured it was over when Trump started his moronic trade war...
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 05:56 PM
Dec 2020

...with China, hiking tariffs all over the place. Could anyone imagine the party of free-market capitalism pushing for increased tariffs with our largest trading partner? But there was hardly a peep from them.

johnnyfins

(866 posts)
7. So let him veto it
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:24 AM
Dec 2020

Let him own his veto. One more piece of evidence that proves je doesn't give a flying f about the military. Fucking pig.

Grins

(7,258 posts)
45. Yes! Because where does a vetoed bill go..??
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 05:41 PM
Dec 2020

Back to the Senate into McConnell’s lap.

And he won’t want to be the Republican to block the DoD budget. It won’t happen without Republican support.

Try to imagine 60 votes overturning “his” veto. Imagine the screaming from the beautiful Resolute desk.”

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
12. They have beliefs -- This is what they believe
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:32 AM
Dec 2020

1. They, and they alone, are entitled to rule and reign.
2. Money is God.
3. Whiteness is better and smarter than non-whites.
4. None of their precious tax money should be given to the poor.
5. People of color can work 2, 3, job, harvesting burgers in the fast food plantations.
6. If you can't afford college, or healthcare, you don't deserve it.
7. War is peace.
8. Liberals are the enemy.
9. Women better shut up and stay in the kitchen.

Did I leave anything out?

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
46. Graft and Graft and Graft.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 05:44 PM
Dec 2020

But Rethugs have been using the same playbook since the 1870's. Even using propaganda, lying, seditious acts, private racist militias, and frivilous lawsuits to try and overturn a Presidential Election in the 1880's. Sound familair?

Damn all of them to Hell.

Escurumbele

(3,408 posts)
13. "The Republican Party, in the age of Trump"...Nope, this happened before, its just that the
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:33 AM
Dec 2020

buffoon is like a little kid and he likes to boast about his criminal acts.

If you go through the history of the republican party, they have always been corrupt, Theodore Roosevelt was an exception, and I always wonder why republicans adore Reagan, and not Roosevelt, one would think that you would try to imitate the one who was honest, patriotic to a fault, and a true leader, but no, they want to cling on the Reagan persona as if he was worth anything, he was not even a good actor.

Republicans know their voters are idiots and believe their rhetoric without question, their voters do not look at their actions, only what and how it is told to them, and lets face it, many of them are a one issue voter, abortion, anything else doesn't matter to them, even if they don't understand the real issue with abortion.

So, NO...the republican corrupt mind has always existed, this is not new, the only reason many people have thought otherwise, and still do, is because the only thing republicans are good at is propaganda, and lying.

Look at the history, no war republicans have been engaged in, which is most of them, has never been for a good cause, it is always for money, and they never seem to win, long wars, huge cost, no win, its almost as if their goal is to perpetuate wars for the benefit of the military industrial complex and all those associated with it.

erronis

(15,461 posts)
15. What an excellent rant! Worthy of a Nance Greggs gold medal!
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:36 AM
Dec 2020

I had to look up the dead-enders in Tikrit - thought it was so good it couldn't be original.

Kudos!

keithbvadu2

(37,040 posts)
16. The GOP has no party platform of principles, policies, beliefs, values, ideology, morality, or goals
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:40 AM
Dec 2020

The GOP has no party platform of principles, policies, beliefs, values, ideology, morality, or goals.

Just their Messiah Donald to follow as a cult.

gordianot

(15,253 posts)
17. Hissy fits, just wait until he finds out his movements are tracked by the Secret Service.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:47 AM
Dec 2020

The Secret Service is more than bodyguards. Trump has no idea how Government really works.

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
20. And if he's no longer president ...
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:57 AM
Dec 2020

... I’m guessing they will be obligated to report any illegal activities of an ordinary citizen. .

gordianot

(15,253 posts)
49. He may have once known how it works very debatable now.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:38 PM
Dec 2020

As hard as walking down an incline or drinking one handed.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,578 posts)
35. I was on my way "downthread" to ask about that.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 12:16 PM
Dec 2020

I guess it's impossible to know what the current numbers are, but I know it would take a substantial number of Rs to get on board with a veto. Probably more than are willing to face the wrath.

LaMouffette

(2,042 posts)
22. Excellent post. Thank you!
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 09:59 AM
Dec 2020

The GOP God is money. The GOP ideology is money.

I think with Republican voters, though, it's a bit more complicated. They do have values. They value individual freedom, hard work, and personal responsibility. At least, I know this to be true of a pair of conservative friends who are independents, but usually vote Republican.

However, the decades-long brainwashing campaign by the GOP, Fox News, and rightwing media have succeeded in fooling Republican voters into believing that the Republican Party embraces the same values they do. I hope to God they wake up one day and discover they have been duped.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,033 posts)
27. "I want you to do me a favor though..." Trump to US Military, on Pearl Harbor Day 2020
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 10:30 AM
Dec 2020

Any Republicans care to comment yet another impeachable action? Or about the timing? No?

Meanwhile, 79 years ago, "antifa" got themselves organized...

https://visitpearlharbor.org/americas-response-pearl-harbor-unexpected-first-target/

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
28. Grumpy Old Party
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 10:32 AM
Dec 2020

Whine whine whine lie lie lie deflect deflect deflect



Republican leadership lies and steers their kept poorly informed base to the polls, sure as hell don't actually help other people in need or whatever is in their actual job descriptions, Moscow Mitch has seen to them basically spinning wheel empty seat occupiers and being go-alongs and talking point robots, as needed in the U.S. congress.

What a bunch of jackasses there, just review the recordings, we heard about them LITERALLY (8p) every day.

Quite a treasonous scam heavy endeavor and as usual, follow the money?
Follow what they do, not what they say, also still applies?



Martin Eden

(12,885 posts)
29. It's a lot more than the party of White rural America
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 10:35 AM
Dec 2020

It's also the party of racism, authoritarianism, and oligarchy.

Under Trump, it's also the party of Vlad Putin.

Botany

(70,641 posts)
31. Trump is willing to put America and our allies @ risk because he is pissed that Twitter flagged ...
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 10:46 AM
Dec 2020

... his posts.


ConstanceCee

(314 posts)
33. Who Wrote This?
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 11:43 AM
Dec 2020

I so often wonder who writes tweets like this, with dependent clauses and words that Trump could never spell, define, or pronounce. Any guesses?

maxsolomon

(33,449 posts)
44. He wrote it, because of the superfluous adjectives.
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 05:18 PM
Dec 2020

Did he need to say the Resolute Desk was "very" beautiful? Not really. Did he need to say that it was "beautiful" at all? Nope.

It had nothing to do with his veto threat. It was just a weird way to fill up a Tweet. Unless he's planning to sell the desk on Ebay.

Back to 140 characters, I say!

BComplex

(8,084 posts)
37. TrollBuster - that's one of the best rants I've ever seen on DU. So true!!!
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 12:45 PM
Dec 2020

Everything you said about the republican party. SO TRUE!!

napi21

(45,806 posts)
39. Trump Vows To Veto Defense Bill Unless Shield For Big Tech Is Scrapped per NPR. Link
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 03:56 PM
Dec 2020
https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/941019533/trump-vows-to-veto-defense-bill-unless-shield-for-big-tech-is-scrapped

President Trump is threatening to veto a critical defense spending bill unless Congress agrees to repeal a liability shield for social media companies.

The president tweeted late Tuesday that Section 230 of the 1996 Communications Decency Act is "a serious threat to our National Security & Election Integrity."

Section 230 provides legal protection for technology companies over content from third parties and users. Trump referred to the provision as a "liability shielding gift" to "Big Tech."

If he doesn't get his way, Trump is threatening to nix this year's National Defense Authorization Act — a crucial piece of annual legislation that covers authorization for pay raises and other spending needs for the nation's military.


orangecrush

(19,662 posts)
50. NOT the party of "white rural America"
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 06:53 PM
Dec 2020

The only "people" the republican party is "for" are corporations and the 1%.

They spent untold millions on propaganda to convince angry rural Americans and rust belters that they would represent them.

They threw them under the bus too.

FrankTC

(210 posts)
52. Thanks For The Informative Title
Mon Dec 7, 2020, 08:45 PM
Dec 2020

Nice to know up front something about the subsequent content. I recognize that others may disagree.

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