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TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 09:38 PM Nov 2020

Epitaph as the grifters slither away...

The Hollow Men by T.S. Eliot

Mistah Kurtz - he dead.

A penny for the Old Guy

I

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
or rats' feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar

Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;

Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death's other kingdom
Remember us - if at all - not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.

II

Eyes I dare not meet in dreams
In death's dream kingdom
These do not appear:
There, the eyes are
Sunlight on a broken column
There, is a tree swinging
And voices are
In the wind's singing
More distant and more solemn
Than a fading star.

Let me be no nearer
In death's dream kingdom
Let me also wear
Such deliberate disguises
Rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves
In a field
Behaving as the wind behaves
No nearer -

Not that final meeting
In the twilight kingdom

III

This is the dead land
This is cactus land
Here the stone images
Are raised, here they receive
The supplication of a dead man's hand
Under the twinkle of a fading star.

Is it like this
In death's other kingdom
Waking alone
At the hour when we are
Trembling with tenderness
Lips that would kiss
Form prayers to broken stone.

IV

The eyes are not here
There are no eyes here
In this valley of dying stars
In this hollow valley
This broken jaw of our lost kingdoms

In this last of meeting places
We grope together
And avoid speech
Gathered on this beach of this tumid river

Sightless, unless
The eyes reappear
As the perpetual star
Multifoliate rose
Of death's twilight kingdom
The hope only
Of empty men.

V

Here we go round the prickly pear
Prickly pear prickly pear
Here we go round the prickly pear
At five o'clock in the morning.

Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow

For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow

Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow

For Thine is the Kingdom

For Thine is
Life is
For Thine is the

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but with a whimper.



referentially,
Bright
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Epitaph as the grifters slither away... (Original Post) TygrBright Nov 2020 OP
I can't say I understand it all after one reading, but it certainly asks to be scrutinized. Thanks! Karadeniz Nov 2020 #1
Perfect. Thanks Bright. n/t livetohike Nov 2020 #2
Yes. Yes! dchill Nov 2020 #3
Recommended. It's been quite a while since I last read this. Thanks. panader0 Nov 2020 #4
Tyger is a very dear poem to me I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2020 #5
I remember that band. panader0 Nov 2020 #6
I love Tangerine I_UndergroundPanther Nov 2020 #7

panader0

(25,816 posts)
4. Recommended. It's been quite a while since I last read this. Thanks.
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 09:55 PM
Nov 2020

"Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the shadow"
Even William Blake would love Elliot:


Tyger Tyger, burning bright,
In the forests of the night;
What immortal hand or eye,
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies,
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand, dare sieze the fire?

And what shoulder, & what art,
Could twist the sinews of thy heart?
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand? & what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain,
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? what dread grasp,
Dare its deadly terrors clasp!

When the stars threw down their spears
And water'd heaven with their tears:
Did he smile his work to see?
Did he who made the Lamb make thee?

Tyger Tyger burning bright,
In the forests of the night:
What immortal hand or eye,
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?[8

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
5. Tyger is a very dear poem to me
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 10:15 PM
Nov 2020

My mom used to read it to me. Or sing it when I was freaking out to calm me.

Years later I dicovered a band tangerine dream. They put the poem to music and it never fails to choke me up.


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