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Le Roi de Pot

(744 posts)
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:11 AM Oct 2020

Our Debt has crossed 100% GDP

Republicans haven't said a peep about it ..but will suddenly become very concerned about deficits shortly after Jan 2021

Here are some options

1) Increase the highest marginal rates for corporations and individuals including new higher slabs


2) Tax income from overseas income ... This is going to be hard.. As there will be a million loop holes.

3) progressive sales tax on bonds and socks ( cumulative not per transaction) .. so if you sell under million dollars in stocks for the year ...no sales tax ... But if you buy and sell 100 k Worth of stocks 12 times a year .. the 200 k will have a small sales tax


4) tax consumer data assets by big data companies .. Google / Facebook have tons of data about us.. when we sleep, when we fart, whom we like.. charge a tax based on both data stored and data accessed.

5) get rid lower rates for capital gains

6) inheritance = income ..tax accordingly ..with exemption of actively managed small businesses.

Anything else?





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Our Debt has crossed 100% GDP (Original Post) Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 OP
Biden is committed to 1) & 5) My Pet Orangutan Oct 2020 #1
7. small tax on high speed trades. gab13by13 Oct 2020 #2
yes .. that makes a lot of sense too Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 #3
How about we spend less? Captain Stern Oct 2020 #4
Sudden large spending cuts can trigger a recession Le Roi de Pot Oct 2020 #5
Ok. Then let's not make those cuts happen all at the exact same time. Captain Stern Oct 2020 #6
Would Need A Comprehensive... ProfessorGAC Oct 2020 #11
How a [drumroll] Patriotic Pandemic Pretax myccrider Oct 2020 #7
Get rid of the Social Security cap TexasBushwhacker Oct 2020 #8
Warren's 2 % tax on assets over $ 50 million (?) Is the most sensible IMO grantcart Oct 2020 #9
Trump knows bankruptcy. sarcasmo Oct 2020 #10

My Pet Orangutan

(9,369 posts)
1. Biden is committed to 1) & 5)
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 07:30 AM
Oct 2020

2 'elses'

- A financial transaction "Tobin" tax.
- Elizabeth Warren's wealth tax proposal - perhaps starting at 2% over $100m, and 3% over a $1billion.

But how about a little out of the box - funny money thinking. Empower the Fed to cancel over 7 years, it's substantial holding of treasuries - a debt 'Jubilee'

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/debt-jubilee-is-only-way-avoid-depression/

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
4. How about we spend less?
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:14 AM
Oct 2020

It's good to figure out ways to raise more money, but we could tackle it from the other direction at the same time.

How about we quit funding the military like we're going to have to fight every single other country in the world at the exact same time?

I don't mind paying more taxes when the money is going towards something that matters. But, I don't think spending as much as we do on our military makes sense.

If all of our allies were to suddenly decide to attack us, our mistake probably wouldn't be in how much we were spending.

 

Le Roi de Pot

(744 posts)
5. Sudden large spending cuts can trigger a recession
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 08:16 AM
Oct 2020

even if it is military - the spending funds many salaries

ProfessorGAC

(65,633 posts)
11. Would Need A Comprehensive...
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 05:29 PM
Oct 2020

...plan for investment in pure research & infrastructure to create jobs outside of the defense industry.
A big reason why cutting the defense spending has become a third rail is because the thing is an enormous jobs plan.
Of course, that plan would take time, and would have to be implemented in phases.
So what you suggest could work as long as it doesn't displace a great amount of workers in a trillion dollar industry.
That many people being without jobs in a short time would trigger a bigger recessionary event than COVID did.

myccrider

(484 posts)
7. How a [drumroll] Patriotic Pandemic Pretax
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 03:47 PM
Oct 2020

For 10 to ? years impose a 1% [2%?] pretax on all *gross* income of corps and wealthy above some threshold that I’m not qualified to determine.

Sell it as a sign of patriotic support by the wealthy class to reduce the national debt.

Also, rescind tax breaks for fossil fuel companies.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,272 posts)
8. Get rid of the Social Security cap
Sat Oct 10, 2020, 04:21 PM
Oct 2020

and make capital gains above a certain amount subject to Social Security and Medicare taxes. It is OBSCENE that a hedge fund manager can make millions and pay capital gains rate and not a dime to Social Security or Medicare. If more people and companies were contributing, we might even be able to lower the rate.

There should be an Alternative Minimum Tax for corporations. I understand that they get credit for taxes they pay in other countries, but they are here using our roads, being protected by our military, etc. They should goddamn pay US taxes!

And for God's sake, eliminate or raise the limit on taxing Social Security benefits.

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