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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor all those afraid that Trump won't go peacefully if not re-elected,
rest assured he may mouth-off his BS, but he is a coward at heart. On Jan 20, Biden will be sworn in as POTUS. There are more than enough Fed judges, who would be honored to administer the oath of office. But John Roberts will no doubt do the honors. One week earlier, the WH staff will be busy packing the Trump belongings and moving them out. Cleaning the WH residence and moving in the Bidens' stuff in. (Let's hope they count all the silver too!) The Secret Service and the US Marshalls will deftly escort the Trumps to a waiting helicopter. All the bru-ha-ha about Trump not going peacefully is merely Trump getting the MSMedia to talk about himself. If you haven't learned by now that Trump shoots his mouth daily to stir the pot and keep the chaos boiling -- well where have you been for the last 4 years?
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)I figure 45 will get out of any penalty but I want Barr in jail.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)That's not what we're worried about.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,458 posts)Our only hope is a lopsided win with in person voting, but then Trump will all of a sudden pull a 180 on mail in ballots, and refuse to accept a loss until they are counted, and he will contest every ballot, in every jurisdiction, to every tribunal, all the while whipping up his Twitter loons to violence.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)KS Toronado
(17,187 posts)He'll claim that " Well nobody wants me in the White House, so f@@k everybody"
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,458 posts)and I hope you are right, but I really don't think he will leave peacefully.
Trump knows that jail awaits. The GOP will back him to the hilt up to, and including, violent overthrow of the government, because they know jail awaits many of them as well.
Joinfortmill
(14,409 posts)Doremus
(7,261 posts)Loyal Americans will remain alert and do everything they can to protect democracy. You can pretend there's no threat but it doesn't make it any less likely.
Joinfortmill
(14,409 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)They'll end up acting like they never supported him, and deny even knowing him in time.
Once Trump is powerless he will be even more friendless than ever.
Siwsan
(26,257 posts)I'm voting in person and after leaving my polling place I plan to pick up any incidentals I might need (AKA wine) and hunkering down for as long as necessary.
Joinfortmill
(14,409 posts)dchill
(38,464 posts)...and the hold he has on the entire GOP? I fear that they will do as they are instructed, as they have done all along.
BannonsLiver
(16,352 posts)0rganism
(23,937 posts)i hope we can all find a way to focus on the things we can do instead of fretting over stuff that's way beyond our influence
DinahMoeHum
(21,783 posts). . .to take to the streets and do other actions if G*d forbid, the worst happens.
https://choosedemocracy.us/
Laelth
(32,017 posts)A thorough fumigation will be required.
-Laelth
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That could take weeks.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
napi21
(45,806 posts)but your statement about being a coward is very true. He wont physically get involved in anything! I honestly think that the confusion he's trying to incite right now is just to keep HIM in the spotlight! I don't believe there's any truth to any of it. Think about it...what's on every news show & between a political junkie anywhere? DT! Will he or won't he? I wish all the channels wpoul;d just drop it for a while & take him out of any news. THAT would freak him out! He needs the headlines to survive.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)I still read thru DU postings, but that's it.
walkingman
(7,591 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)He is trying to get all the money he can from his "cult" followers before he leaves the W.H.
He knows this kind of talk gets them all worked up, and he will continue to take their money as long as they are dumb enough to give it him!
skip fox
(19,356 posts)If we don't worry and consider contingencies, who will?
Doremus
(7,261 posts)PJMcK
(22,025 posts)First, you ask, "...where have you been for the last 4 years?"
My response is, how about the last 40 years?! Trump has been a boil on the ass of the United States since the early 1980s, at least. How anyone couldn't see what a failure, liar and loser he is baffles me.
Second, the reason for concern is not based on Trump's pathetic losing history. In the past, he had his fixers, (Michael Cohen, Roy Cohn, etc.), taking care of his personal and financial problems. That was all small potatoes compared to the current situation. Now, Trump has the power of the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security and other parts of the government under his control. This consolidation of power and influence in red states present the potential for severe problems.
Mostly, I think you're correct. But it would be naive to not prepare for all other contingencies.
erronis
(15,219 posts)The group that took over the somewhat moderate Republicans and turned it into the (r)epuglicons.
Got a early formulation during the McCarthy/Roy Cohn era. Nixon was an early attempt, then Reagan (along with Haig), then the Cheney driving the chump's bus over the cliff.
Funny how the (r)epuglicons since Eisenhower have been striving to kill the USA all the while acting like patriots. Must be a lesson learned from the communists and other cultists.
Speaking of cults. The new SCOTUS-to-be seems to be a member of the same secret societies that Wm. Barr is part of. Echos that horror flick in Georgetown...
ihas2stinkyfeet
(1,400 posts)Luz
(772 posts)Leave him screaming and kicking in the corner while the adults take care of business. After Jan 20th, I will give him no more attention.
Traildogbob
(8,709 posts)I heard an interview this AM with the reporter that asked him the question at the presser yesterday, will you support peaceful transition? He said we would be shocked at the amount of civil servants in the SS that cant wait to drag his fat ass away. It will take a few for his ass and Barrs. I want Meadows drug out and banned from North Carolina. He needs to be attached to Trumps ass whereever he goes, Moscow or prison.
Gore1FL
(21,125 posts)Ligyron
(7,624 posts)Roving gangs of Meal Team 6 looking under rocks for Libruls? I guess they could look for Biden yard signs but most will be gone by Jan I should think.
I predict a whole bunch of arrests of those violencing because it's against the law in most places and they always lose fire fights with law enforcement.
The media will play it up though 'cause if it bleeds it leads and people will freak and over react like always to the scattered incidents of those which surely will occur.
ancianita
(36,016 posts)If you haven't learned by now that millions of Trump followers assault fellow Americans with stalking, intimidation, threats, and shows of guns to foment fear of, and on behalf of, their dear leader -- well where have you been for the last 4 years?
All these fascist followers of just one nation wrecker. Their ignorance, fear and hate is what holds them all together. We who have to face them should remember that there are more of us than them.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)Laurence Tribe was just on CNN stating that we need to take Trump seriously, even though he may be viewed as a moron and a joker. People needed to take him seriously previously when he threatened to ban Muslims and when he threatened to tear apart families at the border, and they also need to take this threat seriously.
The point is not to make people feel hopeless about the election, the point is to be able to prepare for what may be coming next. Much of this fight may involve Republican-controlled state legislatures overriding the count of mail-in ballots.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)...to begin the criminal investigation of the current so called "Attorney General" as well as Putin's mangey dog.
If Putin's mangey dog is allowed to go to Mar-A-Largo, he should do so with an ankle bracelet so as prevent him from leaving the United States.
RicROC
(1,204 posts)wryter2000
(46,031 posts)I still hope Biden will win by 11/3 or the next morning. Cut down on the BS. Weve endured enough.
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Nasruddin
(751 posts)But I 'm afraid that at this stage of his dementia - or whatever he gets to by late Jan 2021 - he's not really in charge of what he does any more. He's not the only one who's got it all on the line.
Jayny
(5 posts)My prediction- Because the majority of Biden voters will be by mail, with a majority of his voters by in person, itll look like Trump has the lead in several states on election night with no clear winner due to the mail in ballots not fully counted. I then suspect Barr and Trump will hold a press conference the next day saying theyll legally challenge mail in ballots, to have them not counted. With panic and chaos ensuing, it goes to the courts (Hopefully not to a biased Supreme Court). And then eventually all the mail ins are counted, Biden is declared the winner, and trump will just mouth his conspiracy bs, until its time for him to leave.